Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2010/10/1tb-v-launching.html

I hope its true, especially with all the MPEG 2 encoded HD channels that we have now and in the future, 20 hours of HD recording isn't enough.

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From what i have heard the 1tb box will come out when they start to roll out tivo. That is from a tech ( so pinch of salt or maybe correct )

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If and when we find out officially any such information will be posted here.

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If you call Virgin they say the 1tb box is available for a one-off £40 installation cost, and they're taking bookings for installation later this month. I've asked VM Press Office to confirm this.

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damn should have waited get my new vip 50 services installed on the 14th :(, the extra space especially with 4 kids and the wife would be more practical for me

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There is no way that a 1TB box would be available for just a £40 install fee.

There have been no released information to staff about the new box yet, so whoever you spoke to was making it up

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Understood Ben - but I've had two people contact the VMHD blog with the same story about the 1tb V+, one confirmed the price and was given an install date of October 27th

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The only people that will be getting a PVR different to the V+ HD, will be those in the trials

As far as I'm aware the full commercial launch of any new box will be in December as previously announced

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http://wotsat.techradar.com/news/soc...o-pvr-08-10-10 this looks to have 1TB DIisk

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Can't believe it's true and I don't know about it

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If VM are currently charging £75 to install the V+ stb I can't see them charging only half as much for 1TB STB...I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, but I can't see it happening, if I had to guess I'd say they'll charge around the £150 to £200 mark....look what Sky are charging.

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Ive got a brand new samsung 1TB sata hard drive and Ive found a topic online where the guy actually changed the hard drive over to 1TB on the Samsung box. Was thinking of maybe trying this out.

Anyone tried drive swapping yet?

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That would be a breach of the Terms and Conditions of your contract as the box is Virginmedia property.

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Yes I know that :rolleyes:

I guess this something we can't talk about on CF?

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You guessed it.;)

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Thanks for clarifying...

I don't see why it cannot be discussed.

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if you buy it from sky , you own it.

with virgin you do not so they shouldn't be charging a penny other than postage to heve it delivered.

charging an "installation fee" to unscrew a wire and then rescrew it is a nonsense.

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so the tech doesnt need oc onfigure frequncies etc and ake sure it working?? yeah maybe 200 will be ot much but tivo will be premium so yoj cant expect no chrge at all dnt like it go to sky and get the box you can do wht you want with

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Yes if you buy the box from sky you do own the box including the costs for any replacement repairs if it goes wrong outside the warranty period! With vm there is a one off charge which includes repairs/replacemets for as long as you have that box,no extra warranty to pay ect ect,so overall a one off fee is not too bad for what you get in return.

I paid a fee of £75 for my v+ HD box had it nearly 3 years and i have no costs to pay if it breaks down to me that is good value.

The same logic i would apply to the upcoming TiVo box.With an expected 1TB space and all its features.

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So lets just say VM pay , oh I don't know, lets say £150 for each box they purchase from the manufacturer. Then they pay tivo hundreds of thousand pounds for the software. Then they give us all the box for nothing. Can you see where I'm going with this. It's not the best of business plans is it?

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then everyone hears about how great the service is and rushes to uptrade to XL Tv which is included in the price and Virgin make millions?

OR

its badly implemented - turgidly slow not tested properly - and the customers who are desperate for a decent amount of storage are screwed royally for being early adopters and their highest fee paying customers?

time will tell.

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I used to have the same opinion as you but if you really think about virgin media have 2 options.

1. Charge £100 - £150 installation charge and then £20 a month subscription
2. Free installation BUT rather than a monthly subscription of £20 its now £35 to cover the costs of all the new boxes, and Tivo licensing fees

The above numbers are random before anyone comments on them ;)

Personally i'd rather have a cheap £150 install fee and then a cheaper subscription each month.

Unfortunately early adopters know exactly how it all works and no matter what service or product you buy, being first on the scene means you'll have problems one way or another. Theres simply no way to know how a service or product will cope when released to the world, it can be tested to death but theres always something thats missed

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Isn't there a charge that VM level at customers who are found to have modified their Virgin PVRs? Something like £200?

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Ermm, if VM are giving away for free something which costs them a couple of hundred pounds per customer I would think they wouldn't want anyone to sign up. They certainly dont make enough money on their subscriptions to cover that loss. The more people who signed up the more money they would lose. They are in business to make money you see. I would love to be a fly on the wall at a board of directors meeting where you put forward that business plan though.

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Not specifically, but if when a customer returns their equipment it's found to be damaged by the customer, then there is a replacement cost

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if you think virgin are going to be paying anything anywhere near that for each unit they have to order you are in a dream world.

the real reason vrirgin are hamstrung is debt repayments while trying to turn a profit for shareholders.

the real problems are being created by the profits not being ploughed back in fast enough to the business to really make Virgin a powerful leader in this industry.

The potential for Cable TV and internet is phenomenal and what we are seeing is a shadow of what is possible.

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Don't you just love armchair CEOing

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its a lot cheaper than the present incumbent :D

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Personally I don't see why the topic can not be discussed

As there are some V+ boxes out there that do belong to individuals then those people would not have a problem doing a HDD upgrade.. (it is their equipment)

What is against the T&C's is illegal activity (like gaining subscriptions without payment)

**If we safeguarded VM's T&C's then we'd have to restrict any discussion of Cable moving..etc.. Instead we only safeguard against those breaking the law but point out that other things may break VM's T&C's

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There are no working V+ HD boxes out there that people own. They are all rented.

Those that customers have failed to return, so have been charged to replace won't work, so why would you bother to put a 1TB box in a box that doesn't work?

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What about the original boxes that VM offered a one of payment for??

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That was an installation fee.

Virgin have never sold TV STBs in any shape or form, they are all rented.

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I believe Telewest allowed some customers to purchase TVDrive boxes.

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Also what about boxes not returned and charged for.. Yes I know they are doorstop on the VM network but can still be tasked for other things including other countries

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Although there was talk of them doing so, they never did as it was around the same time as the ntl:Telewest merger. To be honest I couldn't see for the lift of me why anyone would buy one even if they had done - it's not like you could use it anywhere else

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The tuners are theorectically be compatible with other countries, but you would first have to replace the EPG and Firmware - as the PVR functions don't work without an active provisioning signal from Virgin Media

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The point though still stands, is changing the HDD in a V+ box illegal

Also are all V+ boxes covered by VM's terms & conditions

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No don't think it's specifically illegal, as it doesn't allow to receive anything more than you pay for. However, it does break the T&Cs of the contract people have with Virgin and anyone that does it will likely get a bill to replace the STB due to damage if they ever leave, or if they break it whilst trying to do it.

As I said, the only one that likely aren't covered are those that don't work.

So why anyone would want to discuss how to waste time effort and money putting a bigger hard drive in box that doesn't work is beyond me

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But you've already admitted that these doorsteps could be re-programmed and used in other countries with the same DVB-C style network.. ;)

What I though was more interested in is how far does CF go in protecting VM's T&C's when there are great big loopholes in them as in this case some V+ boxes are owned (though not on the VM network anymore)

:D

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

I said would I didn't say could

I never said they were owned, but if they aren't connected to the Virgin network then they aren't covered by the T&Cs

As far as I'm aware at no stage do Virgin transfer ownership rights to a customer. The charge levied when a customer fails to return equipment is a replacement fee, not a sale fee.

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At the end of the day, the choice is CF's as to whether to allow discussion of modification of Virgin's property. Personally as it's such a grey area legally, I wouldn't risk it

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Boxes arent owned, they are either virgins equipment or stolen

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How can then VM charge £250 for non-return.. They can't legally do this as a fine so have to be for the cost of replacing the box as detailed in many threads (will be interesting to see what wording one of the "Pay us £250 or return the box" letters state..

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Just because you pay a fee to replace something, I can't see how that means you automatically own whatever has been replaced

Say you broke someone's window, and paid to replace it, does that mean you own the broken bits?

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It's not a fine, it's cost of replacement to VM. It's in the T&C's, which also states that all VM equipment remains the property of VM at all times.

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It's also not £250, its £125 to replace a V+ HD box

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Ive read £125 but its £250 in the engineers handbook

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Well on the letters sent to Customers it's £125

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Changing an HD is not illegal, therefore there is no reason it cannot be discussed.

As long as anyone who does such a thing should is aware its against their contract T&C's then thats their choice to suffer any action VM may take.

Im also wondering what any of this has to do with the actual topic.

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Sorry My fault for it going off-topic.. it was though part of the topic in discussion to larger HDD sizes needed in V+ boxes as to the 1TB rumour..

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I am sure once TiVo launches VM will put a much larger HDD in the new STB and it will probably be 1TB.

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Looks like something could be happening in the next 24 hours about the 1TB box?

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/.../152011/page/2

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Would the supposed fee be the same for people upgrading to a V+HD box (from V or VHD) and from (what would be) the older V+HD?

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Nobody knows anything about the pricing yet. Everybody is waiting for all the possible info on this.

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Well, 24 hours later and no news...

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Yes i know i thought with what the admin said there may have been something in it:confused:

That teaches me to jump the gun.

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Copied from the Coming Soon thread courtesy of user Horizon

TIVO announcement:

Press release in full:

03/11/10

Virgin Media announces details of new TiVo-powered next generation connected TV service

* New HD/3D set top box will offer 1TB of personal storage
* Thousands of hours of TV on Demand instantly available
* Dedicated internal modem to bring internet services and apps direct to TV

Virgin Media today announced the first details of its upcoming TiVo-powered HD/3D set top box which will give customers a whopping 1 TeraByte of storage for personal recordings. The new HD/3D set top box will launch alongside Virgin Media’s new TiVo-powered next generation connected TV service scheduled for later this year, and will be capable of storing up to 500 hours of content. When coupled with Virgin Media’s pioneering TV on Demand service, the new service will give UK consumers unrivalled access to over 4,600 hours of TV shows, movies and music videos, including hundreds of hours of HD and 3D entertainment, plus catch up TV from the terrestrial broadcasters, all available instantly.

Powered by Virgin Media’s unique fibre optic network, the box will also feature its own dedicated internal modem able to deliver HD video and other online services without impacting customers’ regular broadband connections. As a result, Virgin Media’s new TiVo-powered service will not only be able to deliver linear TV alongside an unbeatable instant TV on demand offering but will also be able to support compelling online video in HD straight to customers’ TVs without having to sacrifice other online activities when in use.

Competitors’ ‘connected TV’ products rely on just one central broadband connection, typically DSL, making it difficult for families to watch online TV or TV on Demand and take advantage of the internet at the same time. With Virgin Media, a typical family enjoying the new TiVo-powered TV service alongside Virgin Media's ultrafast 50Mb broadband connection will be able to enjoy a seamless experience with incredible connectivity, allowing the whole family to watch, surf, and play, all at the same time without compromise.

Cindy Rose, executive director of digital entertainment at Virgin Media, said: “Virgin Media’s next generation connected TV service - powered by TiVo - and combined with our superior broadband will blow other ‘connected TV’ products out of the water. We’re really proud of our new next-generation TV service which will appeal to anyone and everyone looking for the best of live broadcast TV, catch up, on demand and internet apps and services.”

Virgin Media and TiVo announced plans to join forces in November 2009. Virgin Media and TiVo have developed a unique converged television and interactive service bringing UK consumers the best in TV entertainment, be it broadcast, on demand or online.

Further details of pricing and availability will be announced in due course. For more information on Virgin Media products and services visit: www.virginmedia.com.

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

I can't wait to get rid of my SA box, I actually HATE (yes strong I know) it!

So with 'frustrating slow' on my mind does anyone know the current state of the Tivo Premiere software? I know at launch it wasn't exactly speedy, have they patched it up now?

Re: Anyone heard anything about a 1TB V+ HD box?
 

One day out:erm:

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Does anybody know yet whether only one cable is needed for both TV and Internet based content via the integral modem? Or does the integral modem (within the casing) actually have a seperate port and so 2 cables are required. Hopefully not but just wondering.

Definitelly going to upgrade my SA V+ to TIVO when available.

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Just one cable. In fact all VM STBs include a cable modem, so this is nothing new.

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If I had a bit I'd be chomping on it to get this box to replace my SA V+. If my box is anything to go by I'd imagine there are quite a few people who will think the same way.

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The way I read it, you have the single cable feed into the house. Your broadband has it's own modem. The STB (TiVo) has it's own modem. This for Cable TV and brooadband users the status quo in terms of cables within your house will not change. The street cable is split with a feed to your STB and a separate feed to the broadband modem. They won't be going back to the days of some ntl areas where the STB could also be the broadband modem.

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Ah yes, forgot about that as have separate broadband feed so didn’t think what is there now in the box.

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Sounds perfect. Everything to make me come back to VM from Sky. But why release a PR and not have prices available? 'In Due Course' - seriously? Is that like 'Coming Soon'?

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I agree! VM are such teases!! ;)

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Will you be able to remotely transfer tv programmes from the Tivo STB to an handheld device to watch during the commute to work or share with other people?

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As long as the box supports the full TiVo feature set we should be able to use TiVo Desktop to transfer content to a PC or Mac, TiVo Desktop Plus for Windows lets you transfer to a mobile device but it's a paid upgrade.

https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories-software.do

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Same here, love the V+ service, hate the slow SA box

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Checked out the TIVO web site, very neat box with some nice accessories. Bring it on!

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I wouldn't be so sure it won't ever go back to that, I have seen lots of cablecos wanting to offer a all-in-one box solution to their customers.

My understanding is a lot of the features won't be ready until next summer, ie watching/transferring content between tv's, pcs or mobile devices, but perhaps I've understand it all wrong if it's launching in a few weeks!

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You mean, In Due Course, don't you? ;)

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I don't see Virgin offering recording transfers, but I'd love to see it.

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Wish they'd given a date. Got a VIP50 install booked and I'd hold off on it if it was close to launch.

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It's coming - check out the latest posts on the VMHD blog (and thanks to Media Boy for the info)

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Hey thanks for that nialli. Just a thought that if the boxes are going out on trial ( to staff only:mad: ) and the boxes coming soon, it should not be long before we see the new user interface:D

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re your :mad:

Wouldn't you rather that internal customers found the glitches before the Tivo boxes were generally released?

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The reason they have staff trials is to make sure the service works in a normal environment and so that any remaining bugs/issues can be found and sorted before releasing to all customers.

Am sure you would rather that happen instead of VM launching a poor new service. ;)

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Yes the glitches do need to be ironed out and i just thought that they may have done a trial area the same as they are doing with the BB.

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Play content on other devices!

THANKYOU VM!!!!!

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It was suggested some time back that the V HD boxes would also be getting the Tivo software, minus the recording facilities. Anyone know if this is still the case?

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As far as I know that's the plan.

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Looks like you can now register your intrest?

http://www.tivo.com/abouttivo/intern...gin-media.html

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Done :)

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Just to set expectations on that one I'm assuming that form is just so that TiVo can e-mail you saying 'you can order it from Virgin Media now'

I don't think it's a proper pre-reg

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I think it is just so TiVo can email you their newsletter

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Yes i think that you are both correct after looking at it again. But what got me that before it just said read the press release or check the virgin media website? I am getting old now and starting to read thing differently:D

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I've signed up as I never seem to get anything from Virgin apart from the latest bill notification so it will be a plus to get something from Tivo