Channel 4 sign language
 

Last night I watched a film I'd recorded recently via V+box, It was "The Cat's Meow" on Channel 4 but it was rather spoiled by the sign language included very obtrusivly on the right of the screen.
It's the first time I've had this appear in a film, is there any way to stop this appearing? I know some may be glad to have this service but the ability to turn it off would be good.

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It would have been part of the broadcast, so no. Was it on late?

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It must have been late or I would have watched live.

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I need to say that i think that this thread is a load of .

I have a AUTISTIC child who is learning sign langauge to communicate ( due to limited langauge capabilities ). Some of my friends when i went to school were deaf so if you think that it is ok to start a thread about sign langaunge, what is going to be next a thread about AUDIO DESCRIPTIVE channels FOR THE blind.

If you feel that strongly about try contacting OFCOM, THE DISABILITIES DISCRIMINATIN BOARD and any others that you are able to think about.

RANT OVER

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He was just asking if it was possible to turn it off so i don't think he deserved that rude reply.

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Bit touchy aren't we?

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Sorry been a hard day and i apologise.

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No worries. :)

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I don't think you can compare the audio description (with regards to 'getting in the way') as you can with the sigh language. You can turn the audio description off after all.

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If you read my thread correctly it says

what is going to be next a thread about AUDIO DESCRIPTIVE channels FOR THE blind.

I have said that i am sorry about my rant as i have had a hard day as most people with disabled children will have everyday.

And again i do apologise

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I did read your reply correctly there is no need to take out your frustrations on me.

If had ment to qupte you directly I would have - as I didn't you should realise that I was making a statement, not quoting you.

edit - The point is I can see why the sign language can be frustrating to users and I can see why the audio description can be, but you can't compare the two as one can be removed while the other can't.

You do not need to apologise to me.

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I am not apologising to you and also i am not taking my frustrations out on you as well. i do hope that you realise this :D

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It would be great if there was a technical answer to this question. Like with subtitles either switch it on or off as a separate stream feed:erm:

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The technical answer is you can't turn signing off.

Because of the impact on viewers who don't require signing, signed programmes tend to be limited either to late night, or when a non-signed simulcast alternative is available on another channel. There's loads more info on the Ofcom website for those who are interested.

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completely off topic, but my step son when he was little asked us why that person danced in the corner of hollyoaks on a sunday - bless him.

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They probably should make it optional, both for those who are deaf and want to view programs at normal times and those who do not need it. Guess the bigwigs won't shell out for it.

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Making it optional would require the broadcasting two channels. Either that, or zooming the picture so that the signer was cut off.

There have been demonstration systems where the STB software rather than a person does the signing, but that's way beyond the capabilities of current STBs.

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Alternatively why carnt you have signed on demand content:erm:

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There is ;)

BBC iPlayer shows programmes from the Sign Zone :)

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Well you could, but the broadcasters are still required to provide some signed linear content.

Don't forget not everybody can get On Demand.

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Could they not overhaul whatever they use for interactive overlays like the Red Button to add a signer to the regular stream? Surely it would be a great advantage to a large number of people, especially more than 'silly' things like 3D. (Obviously not from a manufacturers POV, but to a significant amount of consumers)

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I don't think VM's current software supports the kind of overlays required. Even if it did, a lot (if not all) of VM's current STBs would not be powerful enough to do it.