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Kingofthedead4 08-09-2010 12:17

Ryder Cup 2010
 
I think the europeans will do well this year, the Americans are struggling for form at the moment even though they have the world number 1 and 2. I am quite surprised they have picked Tiger Woods because he is not in the best of form and even when he was he did not do particularly well in the Ryder Cup.

colin25 08-09-2010 17:18

Re: Ryder cup
 
This might be the time when you don't want to play tiger, he might be more focussed, to take some of the focus off his private life.

colin25 01-10-2010 08:46

Re: Ryder cup
 
Ryder cup tees off...i'm excited :D

Derek 01-10-2010 12:19

Ryder Cup 2010
 
It's here and it's wet!

From 0745 till 0945 when the torrential rain and waterlogged course knackered things its currently sitting at 3-1 in favour of the Europeans.

Doesn't look there will be any play until later this afternoon. :mad:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/9041112.stm

Dukefever 01-10-2010 12:53

Re: Ryder cup
 
Lol, not a fan but are you watching it in 3D?

colin25 01-10-2010 13:02

Re: Ryder cup
 
No. I went into John Lewis, to look at the 3D tvs, but they had poor service, so never seen it tested. But was tempted :)

HD is acceptable

colin25 01-10-2010 13:25

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
lol...i commented on another thread :D

Osem 01-10-2010 13:40

Re: Ryder cup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukefever (Post 35101524)
Lol, not a fan but are you watching it in 3D?

I'm wearing a wet suit watching it in 'underwater TV' mode.. :)

Giving the demands of the US tour calendar I can see future Ryder Cup contests this side of the Atlantic being moved to parts of Europe where the weather at this time of year is likely to be more conducive to entertaining golf than scuba diving.

gazzae 01-10-2010 13:57

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Sounds like fun in the Europe team room, according to Martin Kaymer "Luke Donaldson is playing with himself"

LondonRoad 01-10-2010 14:01

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzae (Post 35101577)
Sounds like fun in the Europe team room, according to Martin Kaymer "Luke Donaldson is playing with himself"

If Tiger had taken some lessons from Luke he might not have gotten into such deep doodoo.

Taf 01-10-2010 15:08

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
I heard it's been renamed Wave Ryder Cup in honour of Welsh precipitation...

Derek 01-10-2010 17:18

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Play resumes at 1700 tonight.

Regardless of further delays the tournament finishes on Monday at sunset.

Osem 01-10-2010 22:05

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I understand that if the worst happens and the competition can't be completed then any unfinished matches will be halved. I think it'd be fairer to base the final result on the standings in each match at the time play is called off.

colin25 01-10-2010 22:28

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35101910)
I understand that if the worst happens and the competition can't be completed then any unfinished matches will be halved. I think it'd be fairer to base the final result on the standings in each match at the time play is called off.

Not really fair, as someone 5 down with 6 holes to play, could still win.

Fairest result, is to call it a draw, unless it has already been won. Hence why they agreed it.

Osem 01-10-2010 22:48

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35101927)
Not really fair, as someone 5 down with 6 holes to play, could still win.

Fairest result, is to call it a draw, unless it has already been won. Hence why they agreed it.

Agreed there's no perfect solution but at least my way means that the team actually doing the best at the time wins as opposed to what might have been the case had there been a few more holes played. Under the current rule you could be 8 up with 9 to play and it'll be called a draw. Don't see how that's fairer - it's far more likely that the team ahead at the time would go on to win than the team so far behind would stage a miraculous recovery.

Shadow Demon UK 01-10-2010 23:22

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35101935)
Agreed there's no perfect solution but at least my way means that the team actually doing the best at the time wins as opposed to what might have been the case had there been a few more holes played. Under the current rule you could be 8 up with 9 to play and it'll be called a draw. Don't see how that's fairer - it's far more likely that the team ahead at the time would go on to win than the team so far behind would stage a miraculous recovery.

But where would you draw the line? Awarding a win to a player one up with 17 to play would be very unfair or one up with any number to play in fact, the same with a two or three hole lead as we saw today can be easily turned around. I think calling the match a draw is probably the easiest way to do it as its seems unlikely anyone would have a seven or eight hole lead without it being an unassailable lead in such a high quality tournament.

colin25 04-10-2010 16:28

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Drama to the last (ok 2nd last :D)

Enjoyed that..looking forward to next one..I will sit and wait 2 years :)

Osem 04-10-2010 16:37

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35101953)
But where would you draw the line? Awarding a win to a player one up with 17 to play would be very unfair or one up with any number to play in fact, the same with a two or three hole lead as we saw today can be easily turned around. I think calling the match a draw is probably the easiest way to do it as its seems unlikely anyone would have a seven or eight hole lead without it being an unassailable lead in such a high quality tournament.

As I said, there's no perfect solution whatever you do in such situations. Of course matches can be turned around (Greg Norman knows all about that ;) )but I still think my suggestion's fairer because at least it's based on actual scores (albeit not over the full 18 holes) and for every match that might have gone the other way if it had proceeded to the 18th, there'll be another which wouldn't have.

In a way it's similar to the golden goal concept in football in which the first team to score wins (even though had play continued for a fixed period as with traditional extra time, the other side may have come back and won the match).

gazzae 04-10-2010 16:55

Re: Ryder Cup 2010
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35103306)
In a way it's similar to the golden goal concept in football in which the first team to score wins (even though had play continued for a fixed period, the other side may have won the match).

But a golden goal only takes place after the regulation time has been completed. The situation you are describing would be more like blowing the whistle after 60 minutes.

Look at Fowler today, Molinari was 3up with 4 to play and then 2 up with 2 to play and the match ended in a half.


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