Britain goes halal
 

Britain goes halal... but no-one tells the public: How famous institutions serve ritually slaughtered meat with no warning

Animal welfare campaigners have long called for a ban on the traditional Islamic way of preparing meat – which involves killing animals by drawing a knife across their throats, without stunning them first – saying it is cruel and causes unnecessary pain.
Sharia law expressly forbids knocking the animal out with a bolt gun, as is usual in British slaughter houses. Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.


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sneaky or what
as an animal lover i find this disturbing as i would never go out of my way to buy something that had been slaughtered in this manor .
it seems deceitful to say the least ,i expect better treatment of live stock in the uk .:(

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Oh look another thinly-veiled Muslim bashing thread inspired by a low-level story in the Mail.

I suspect those claiming to be 'mortified' from an animal-cruelty point of view would somehow be less mortified if the halal method of food preparation was nothing to do with Islam.

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You're on a slippery slope there PS, unless you have gone out of your way to satisfy yourself that every animal you consume in food and clothing has received the best of treatment, including in the way its life was ended in order to make yours more comfortable.

Anyway, if you don't like the way cows are slaughtered in this manor, you can always go and buy them from the next one. ;)

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i think we need some kind of labelling introduced so those of use who care can see at a glance how this animal met its end .

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Personally..I don't want to know..I know I won't like it..but could equally get quesy thinking about all other forms of food..and how it is served (seen some yucky things being done in kitchens)

I prefer the Harry Potter method of cooking..done by magical fairies :D

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Labelling is a good idea. As Muslims also care how their meat met its end I suspect many would like to see that too.

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Once again the Daily Fail tries to dish up the dirt and fails again miserably, the is no way that abbatoirs are going to follow this way of slaughtering animals as the cost would impact on profit and all the slaughtermen would have to be muslim otherwise they could not claim that the meat was halal.


An abject FAIL on behalf of the Daily Fail.

http://www.hockeydrunk.com/wp-conten...e_facepalm.jpg

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totally agree -and i wouldn't want to inflict my animal welfare ideals on others it there choice and out of my control.[i think the RSPA are doing a good job fighting the welfare cause ]
and of course it would help muslims identify the food of there choice, while helping myself and other animal lovers avoid food that met its end in a manor we do not approve of .
i would of course back a campaign to introduce new laws that assure good animal welfare through the democratic process , but democracy can swing in any direction and the opposing view point could win the day ,so it would be back to the old conscience to guide me ;)

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I don't see many stories decrying the evil Jews with their inhumane Kosher slaughter laws.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic...ared#Slaughter

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But you see no matter how you spell Jew it does not turn into Muslim ;)

The likes of the daily mail has not managed it yet :)

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I'd also be curious to know whether PS has ever eaten in a curry house ... given that there's a reasonable chance that the owner is a Muslim and uses halal meat in his dishes.

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And I'd suggest there's an even more reason chance that many a CF member's jaw just dropped at that shocking revelation :D

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There was a documentary on a while back about slaughterhouses and how people weren't aware of what went into food etc.

One of the things they did was go to a 'proper' slaughterhouse and a halal one.

It's entirely possible it was set up for TV but the slaughter-man in the halal place showed far more compassion and care for the animals than the ones in the regular abbatior.

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This is unsurprising - the 'proper' abbatoir is a food factory and the animals are the ingredients. Any religiously-inspired slaughter process carries with it the idea that the animal is part of God's creation and must be treated with respect as a result.

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love curry Chris - and i had worked out for myself that the owner may or may not be a muslim .

that brings me back to labels and signs re HalHal ;)
and not all Indians are Muslim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_India

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of course it does Chris , oh how neatly that fits in with religious slaughter i feel so comforted by that revelation :rolleyes:

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About the only interesting bits are the following:

Very true, the lack of transparency is not appropriate.

Very annoying - there should be consideration for those on the other side of things as well. Of course there's never been an issue with a lack of transparency, that's the point, the lack of transparency hid the issue.

Ignoring the Mail's hyperboles it's quite disconcerting that there is a roll back in animal welfare in favour of religious superstitions however this is merely a reflection of the UK in general at the moment with religion being more of an issue in day to day life than it has in a while.

As a general disclaimer however I should of course mention that I am not religious per se and believe this country, and every other nation on Earth, should be governed with tolerance but absolutely no deference or reference to religious beliefs.

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I think it's a bit like eggs. and whether they're free range or not. some people think that those that aren't free range are cruel to the animals, and won't buy them.
they even go out of their way to tell you whether they were from the cruel or not cruel way.

I can see how this could be seen as being cruel to the animal in the publics eyes if they were told about it.

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I once saw the BBC programme where they take a animal, slaughter it and serve it. In it it said that the law relating to animal slaughtering in UK slaughter houses/abbatoirs (non religious ones) is that the stunning proces cannot kill the animal. The stun is used to 'stun' and then the cow is hung upside down, has its throat slit, and bled to death. Any animals killed via stunning are removed from the process. These practices were introduced during the mad cow disease era.

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Is that actually true though?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosher#Animal_welfare

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Our local tesco has a frozen section that is for Halal food.

Just as well I'm not into meat.

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What if they labelled it as 'throat cut/religious" and not 'stunned/welfare"?

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What also amuses me is that a lot of "non religious" abbatoirs slaughter animals by cutting across the throat, but not saying any prayers. Is the anger here to do with a prayer being said, or the manner in which its killed. I'd say the former. If atheists don't belive in God or religion, and go on about how silly it is for Christians, Jews, Muslims to believe in fairy tales, why do they get so upset when someone utters a prayer? Is it effecting their way of life? Will you become a muslim because you've eaten Halaal meat? Or a Jew - because you've eaten Kosher. I assume the Mail did not throw its arms in the air about Kosher - probably did not want to upset any of the Jews that sit on its board.

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And I'd imagine they have a much bigger frozen section for non-Halal food, right? I'm not sure what the problem is here. They stock Halal food but make sure it's separated from the non-Halal food so that those who don't want it aren't likely to get it by mistake? Surely that's a good thing?

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I think you're just ranting. the saying of the little prayer is irrelevant I'd say. I personally couldn't be bothered what anyone mumbles after doing it. I'd be more concerned about how they did it.

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I think you know as well as the rest of us that if halal was nothing to do with Islam this wouldn't have made it in to the Mail or on to CF.

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Russ are you calling me a racist for posting an animal welfare issue ?

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Gary, I would suggest you look at slaughter houses in general then. Both in the UK, and countries which export meats to the UK. You might find that the only difference between halaal and non - halaal is "what anyone mumbles after doing it".

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No, Islam isn't a race. I'd call you anti-Muslim for the many many thinly-veiled Muslim-bashing posts you make.

I'm not saying I think the lack of transparency isn't an issue but I think it's pretty clear what your intention is in this and previous similar-themed threads.

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You do know, of course, that the majority of "Indian" restaurants in the UK are run by Bangladeshi?;)

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And here I was thinking Sunday was a day of rest, lol.

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What is "Humane Killing" other than a king size oxymoron?

I don't think for one minute ANY group can claim the moral higher ground when comparing killing methods.

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