Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093353)

any chance of a link arthur ...just so we can check or refute the validity of this story

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093361)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093353)

any chance of a link arthur ...just so we can check or refute the validity of this story

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093364)

I found one similar, but not the same offensive word.


http://news.stv.tv/scotland/160853-b...l-name-change/

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35093366)

And no call for it to be renamed either, well done Gary.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093372)

Whilst I was looking I found this. it's hysterical when you read it :rofl:

I should post it in the humour thread really.

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35093362)

Shouldn't it be:

'Muslims going too far' or even 'Muslim goes too far'?

:shrug:

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Page 6. Daily Star. At a guess...

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093380)

I think it can show the importance of Mecca.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093381)

No I'm happy to leave the grammar and punctuation alone but spelling is the first thing everyone notices.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093381)

No I'm happy to leave the grammar and punctuation alone but spelling is the first thing everyone notices.
Has anyone found a link yet?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093387)

i found this one earlier but it is from '98 (i think the same one that MrAngry eluded to) so unless arthur is just trawling the webanet looking for muslim threads and failing to spot the dates then i think the story is a figment of his imagination ...either that or he just lost at the bingo

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093395)

not even mentioned in the mail ,just gone through all the stories in todays mail online and nothing ..of to scrub my eyes now

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35093382)

Yes, it does and I'm glad to see that you too acknowledge its importance.

That's very socially responsible of you and, I must admit, a somewhat surprising - and welcome - change from your usual criticisms of the religion.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35093389)

but at least he knows where that Mecca is unlike the folks in Gary L's post ;)

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093401)

I'm not prejudiced.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35093341)

It was announced today that Mecca Bingo, has been asked by the local Muslim cleric, if they can change the name, as it offends there religion to be associated with betting.

But the local Bingo hall, has advised them, that Mecca Bingo has been going for over 50 years, and has no intention of changing the name, The cleric has stated that it could lead to protest.

Doesn't the local Muslim community have anything better to do, than complain about something that has been going, before the name Muslim was ever mentioned in this easy going country.http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...cons/icon8.gif

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093415)

Another Arthur rant with no proof, no links and no reality.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093417)

he doesn't even say what part of the country it's in so i am presuming it's local to him and he heard it in the pub when he busy setting the world to rights with his all his chums ;)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093418)

I just love Arthur's daily rant :)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093420)

i know ,can't wait for tomorrows rant ..i wonder what it'll be about ..the anticipation is killing me :hyper:

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093423)

You can bet it will involve them from over there coming over here and trying to make us from over here turn in to them from over there :)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093415)

Another Arthur rant with no proof, no links and no reality.

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35093341)

Doesn't the local Muslim community have anything better to do, than complain about something that has been going, before the name Muslim was ever mentioned in this easy going country.http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...cons/icon8.gif

Originally Posted by j52c (Post 35093476)

http://observers.france24.com/en/con...-islam-threats

Could be related to the above happenings in Spain.

Originally Posted by PeteL (Post 35093492)

the owners and the government should seriously turn round and say like it or GTFO and go back to Indonesia or wherever ?

Originally Posted by PeteL (Post 35093492)

the owners and the government should seriously turn round and say like it or GTFO and go back to Indonesia or wherever ?

ignorance, mr angry ?

developed world is changing to accommodate the non-developed and it is high time somebody stood up to islam in general, you may be happy as you are obviously old and clearly have only a few years left, it is because of people like YOU that my age and my children will suffer our entire life

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35093496)

You will find, if you bothered to take the time to look, that many Spanish citizens (ie. those born in Spain) are muslims. As such they are already at "wherever".

Ignorance is no defence.

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Is that why you're joining the army Pete, to "do your bit"?

How's that going by the way?

Originally Posted by PeteL (Post 35093499)

excellent thankyou! i'm signing up to defend my country weather it is against religion or the germans.. not to bend over like you seem to want the country to do?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35093502)

Yes, of course you are son.

"The Germans"?

Sorry, did Arthur miss a cobra alert and fail to tell us about it?

What are they threatening you with now?

By the way, it's "whether".

Originally Posted by PeteL (Post 35093507)

i won't tell anybody ************:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35093522)

This is getting better than the test thread. :D

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35093525)

And there was a topic somewhere in this thread. I'd appreciate it if the discussion could be directed back to it.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093770)

you're a better man than me if you can find it ,;) Arthur seems to have dumped some more made up rubbish on the forum and left it without any further input to his thread...again

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35093776)

i think its about who has the copyright on the word mecca -islam or j Arthur rank ;)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093778)

can you copyright a place name ?

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35093796)

Well, seeing as the only article I can find online that "backs up" what Arthur says, I'll comment on that.

Yes, Mecca Bingo has been around since the 60s, but Mecca, the city, has been around since either (depending on who you beleive) 2000BC or 5AD (we are currently in 2010AD). As such, it has existed for anywhere between 2,005 and 4,005 years.

There is little evidence it was called "Mecca" before 5AD, but whichever is true, it has been around a little longer than Mecca Bingo.

Now, in that article, the company changed the name. That's their choice.

It's also worth remembering that until a few weeks before the protest, the bingo hall was actually called "Top Rank", and was only renamed "Mecca" as Rank decided to bring all their bingo halls under one brand. As such, any attempt to rename it "Mecca" *could* be legitimately seen as an insult to Muslims, many of whom were probably born in the area.

I would say the same if Boots renamed a shop selling Condoms in a largely Catholic area as "Vatican".

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093800)

yes but Mecca has a double meaning doesn't it ,not only as a place name sacred to Muslims but but also meaning a gathering place ,so i don't think any muslim has any right to be offended at a company using Mecca as a name

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35093809)

It does, but it still seems insulting to name a gambling club in an area with a lot of Muslims "Mecca".

I suspect that the acceptance of Mecca meaning a gathering place probably comes from the fact that a lot of Muslims gather at Mecca as well.

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35093796)

I would say the same if Boots renamed a shop selling Condoms in a largely Catholic area as "Vatican".

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35093832)

A) the story is bolleaux, as usual from Arthur (but willing to be proven otherwise)
B) it's an established brand name; get over it, move on, and worry about real issues

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35093829)

We don't acknowledge territories in that way in the UK though (with the exception of certain small areas of Northern Ireland, and that's an extreme case).

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35093834)

c Arthur's had us all dangling on a string again :D

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093798)

The problem here is that as is the norm Arthur posts total crap then :sulk: away to leave the rest of the forum debating what COULD be complete lies or hearsay. Arthur's posts tend to have a racial slant which are just this side of being racist if you see what i mean.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093879)

The answer is simple.Don't participate in Arthur's threads.;)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093798)

The problem here is that as is the norm Arthur posts total crap then :sulk: away to leave the rest of the forum debating what COULD be complete lies or hearsay. Arthur's posts tend to have a racial slant which are just this side of being racist if you see what i mean.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093916)

But if everyone did that there would be none of his threads challenged :)

Originally Posted by basa (Post 35093925)

I do get very confused :dozey:

When anyone criticises people from a non British origin or a non Christian religious persuasion it is automatically described as racist (or if very astute religious hatred).

But if the criticism is of the British or the Christian religion it isn't a race or religious hate :confused:

Erm - how does that work?? :confused:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35093927)

Found this about medina,

http://freethinker.co.uk/2010/06/09/...g-danish-diva/

still looking for other link

Originally Posted by basa (Post 35093925)

I do get very confused :dozey:

When anyone criticises people from a non British origin or a non Christian religious persuasion it is automatically described as racist (or if very astute religious hatred).

But if the criticism is of the British or the Christian religion it isn't a race or religious hate :confused:

Erm - how does that work?? :confused:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35093932)

Good find, but can I point out we are talking about actions of 10-20 14-18 year olds,

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093928)

Arthur doesn't care whether they are challenged or not..and they would just disappear very quickly into the archives never to be seen again.;) Why debate crap posts?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093935)

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So it's just idiots then? there was no need to change the name afterall. it wasn't actually offensive to Muslims as those 10-20 year olds were just being idiots.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093935)

So it's just idiots then? there was no need to change the name afterall. it wasn't actually offensive to Muslims as those 10-20 year olds were just being idiots.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093944)

Racist: someone who doesn't want to think how you want them to think :)

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35093940)

Unfortunately, there's plenty of closet racists around to keep these threads well alive.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093944)

Racist: someone who doesn't want to think how you want them to think :)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093950)

Here's some bed time reading for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35093953)

it's way past his bed time ;)

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093950)

Here's some bed time reading for you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093947)

But Muslims aren't one race anymore than Christians are.That's the completely daft part of it..

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093962)

Thanks. but too many words and not enough pictures.

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35093945)

Racist: someone who think others are less than them because they are different from them.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35093963)

According to some there from a mythical land called musalimia

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093970)

But it's insane..and as far as I can judge the only faith that claims to be a race are the Jews.:erm:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35093970)

But it's insane..and as far as I can judge the only faith that claims to be a race are the Jews.:erm:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35093967)

How does that work when you have a rich and a poor of the same colour?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35094005)

That's "class" not "race" Gary, they are very different ideolgies.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35094005)

That's "class" not "race" Gary, they are very different ideolgies.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35094149)

Well, you tell Hugh that his definition of racism can't be right then, I'm not.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35094161)

As expected - straight over your head.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35094178)

So it's class if it's a rich white and a poor white. and racist if it's a rich white and a poor black?

got it. :)

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35094161)

As expected - straight over your head.