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Sasha222 22-08-2010 11:11

Windows Defender
 
Is windows defender improtant to have

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Windows defender is blocking me from some programmes I used to have and Im wondering if I need to have it or can it be deleted

Kymmy 22-08-2010 11:37

Re: Windows Defender
 
Depends if you have anything else to do the job... You should be able though to add exceptions for programs...

Sasha222 22-08-2010 11:42

Re: Windows Defender
 
Thing is It never blocked me from opening programmes and now it has started blocking me. I never even knew it was there till today and it told me that my settings were stopping me from opening certain files

Matty_ 22-08-2010 12:07

Re: Windows Defender
 
When you say it is blocking programs what type of programs do you mean, or is it blocking you from opening certain file types e.g. .png/.jpeg etc, etc?

Go to Control Panel->Windows Defender->Look in History to see what has been blocked.

Sasha222 22-08-2010 12:11

Re: Windows Defender
 
When I turn on my laptop and It's booting up the first thing it says that some programmes have been blocked and if I try go go on certain sites then it just says your settings does not allow this program to run. That is the only way I have of explaining as I'm not computer savvy. Sorry :dunce:

Matty_ 22-08-2010 12:16

Re: Windows Defender
 
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Have a look in Tools->quarantined items and see if anything is listed there. You may have to click View to see them.

Are you running Vista Defirish, Defender has changed a bit in 7 compared to Vista. You need to look at the Software Explorer section to see if anything is blocked at start up (which it could be for a number of reasons like unsigned or requesting Admin privileges)

chris01 22-08-2010 12:23

Re: Windows Defender
 
i use it and its brill u should have it

Sasha222 22-08-2010 12:24

Re: Windows Defender
 
No nothing that I can see. I have a virus protecter so if I just delete the windows defender would I still be safe with my virus protecter.

wwe 22-08-2010 12:51

Re: Windows Defender
 
i have it and i use it all the time defo worth having nice little pice of soffware

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if u want any help on how to use it just ask as i use it all the time

Ben B 22-08-2010 12:53

Re: Windows Defender
 
Windows Defender is a load of rubbish, glad they got rid of it on Windows 7. I just use Microsoft Security Essentials which has antivirus and antispyware built in.

Sasha222 22-08-2010 13:08

Re: Windows Defender
 
Ben where do I actually find it please to delete it as I looked in control panel and cant find it.

Matty_ 22-08-2010 13:13

Re: Windows Defender
 
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If you look at this article http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/wi...ontent;leftCol and scroll to about half way down is that the pop up you`re getting "Windows has blocked some start up programs" ?

p.s. I agree with Ben B, if you have a decent Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware then imo windows defender just takes resources and should be disabled.

If you are happy that your current security software will do the job to disable windows defender got to Start->Type in services->click the entry services with the 2 cogs next to it->a new window like the picture will appear, scroll down to "Windows Defender" and double click it->In the new window select "Disabled" from the drop-down->Click Apply then Stop.
Windows Defender will now not start on next re-boot.

wwe 22-08-2010 13:13

Re: Windows Defender
 
if u want me 2 help u how 2 use it just ask

v0id 22-08-2010 13:19

Re: Windows Defender
 
Open Defender, go to Tools > Microsoft SpyNet and choose 'join with basic membership'

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35076935)
Windows Defender is a load of rubbish, glad they got rid of it on Windows 7. I just use Microsoft Security Essentials which has antivirus and antispyware built in.

MSE has Windows Defender built in ;)

Sasha222 22-08-2010 13:21

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35076949)
If you look at this article http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/wi...ontent;leftCol and scroll to about half way down is that the pop up you`re getting "Windows has blocked some start up programs" ?

p.s. I agree with Ben B, if you have a decent Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware then imo windows defender just takes resources and should be disabled.

If you are happy that your current security software will do the job to disable windows defender got to Start->Type in services->click the entry services with the 2 cogs next to it->a new window like the picture will appear, scroll down to "Windows Defender" and double click it->In the new window select "Disabled" from the drop-down->Click Apply then Stop.
Windows Defender will now not start on next re-boot.


Thanks so much Matty have it done and now It's gone. Do I need to restart my laptop for it to disappear fully

Matty_ 22-08-2010 13:26

Re: Windows Defender
 
Just restart when you need to, it just won`t run again. You may find things a bit snappier also as when you install most AV`s they disable defender real time scanning. You possibly had both scanning stuff in real-time.

Sasha222 22-08-2010 13:32

Re: Windows Defender
 
Sorry for asking a dumb question but what is AV Matty :erm:

Kymmy 22-08-2010 13:32

Re: Windows Defender
 
AV = Anti-Virus

Sasha222 22-08-2010 13:33

Re: Windows Defender
 
Ok blond moment gone. Anti Virus you mean. :dunce::D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35076975)
AV = Anti-Virus

Thanks Kymmy. :D

v0id 22-08-2010 13:42

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35076975)
AV = Anti-Virus

Amongst other things ;)

wwe 22-08-2010 14:25

Re: Windows Defender
 
i have norton anyway on my pc but i do find it ok

Stuart 22-08-2010 15:06

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35076949)
If you look at this article http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/wi...ontent;leftCol and scroll to about half way down is that the pop up you`re getting "Windows has blocked some start up programs" ?

p.s. I agree with Ben B, if you have a decent Anti-Virus/Anti-Spyware then imo windows defender just takes resources and should be disabled.

If you are happy that your current security software will do the job to disable windows defender got to Start->Type in services->click the entry services with the 2 cogs next to it->a new window like the picture will appear, scroll down to "Windows Defender" and double click it->In the new window select "Disabled" from the drop-down->Click Apply then Stop.
Windows Defender will now not start on next re-boot.



It's worth remembering, however, that Windows Defender can sometimes pick up things that Virus checkers miss.

At work, a few years ago, Windows defender (running on my machine) picked up attempts to infect my machine from several other machines on our network (all of which had apparently up to date virus checkers).

joglynne 22-08-2010 15:24

Re: Windows Defender
 
I realise defirish's problem is probably sorted but having only just had a chance to play catch-up on the forum I have to say I had the same problem and it was very irritating. It even blocked me coming on here at one point.

Thinking that there was a problem of some kind between my AV and the Defender I changed AV to MSE and disabled Windows Defender as a result of reading about the need to do so on one of the Microsoft forums and haven't had a problem since.

@ v0id. I didn't realise MSE already had it built in so I am now wondering why the stand alone version and the one built into MSE should work differently?

Sasha222 22-08-2010 16:10

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35077056)
It's worth remembering, however, that Windows Defender can sometimes pick up things that Virus checkers miss.

At work, a few years ago, Windows defender (running on my machine) picked up attempts to infect my machine from several other machines on our network (all of which had apparently up to date virus checkers).

I now have it deleted but would there have been a way of keeping it and have just got it to stop blocking me from sites. I didn't even know I had it till today when I turned on my laptop and then it wouldn't let me on some sites that I had no problem going on before

wwe 22-08-2010 16:30

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35077095)
I now have it deleted but would there have been a way of keeping it and have just got it to stop blocking me from sites. I didn't even know I had it till today when I turned on my laptop and then it wouldn't let me on some sites that I had no problem going on before

i take it you dont like it?

LSainsbury 22-08-2010 17:38

Re: Windows Defender
 
Another vote for Windows Defender is rubbish. Unsinstall and install MSE for free!

Windows Defender is actually removed by McAee VirusScan Enterprise - which we use at work...that must say something for the "product".

wwe 22-08-2010 18:21

Re: Windows Defender
 
Most people dont have it as long as u got a firewall and virus scanner ur ok

Sasha222 22-08-2010 18:26

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077149)
Another vote for Windows Defender is rubbish. Unsinstall and install MSE for free!

Windows Defender is removed by McAee VirusScan Enterprise - which we use at work!


Thanks so much Sainsbury. Im going to delete the Virus procter I have and download MSE for free. By any chance would you have a link for it please :D

wwe 22-08-2010 18:28

Re: Windows Defender
 
there are some free virus scanner out there

Kymmy 22-08-2010 18:38

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35077176)
Thanks so much Sainsbury. Im going to delete the Virus procter I have and download MSE for free. By any chance would you have a link for it please :D

http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

wwe 22-08-2010 18:39

Re: Windows Defender
 
the best 1 to get is norton u get round the clock help and it has everything u need

LSainsbury 22-08-2010 19:14

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35077182)
the best 1 to get is norton u get round the clock help and it has everything u need

In your opinion....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35077181)

Beat me too it - cheers Kymmy!

Kymmy 22-08-2010 19:15

Re: Windows Defender
 
Norton used to be great especially their corporate software but in the last 6-8 years it's got so bloated and resource intensive that norton is useless.

Sasha222 22-08-2010 19:20

Re: Windows Defender
 
Ya I bought Norton and wouldn't touch it after my year contract was up. Thanks for all the help everyone. Much appricated ;):D

wwe 22-08-2010 19:22

Re: Windows Defender
 
its ok no proublem

LSainsbury 22-08-2010 19:27

Re: Windows Defender
 
Funny - I've just got a trial version of Norton IS 2011 installed on a spare PC to test it out. I know it used to be resource hungry but aparently it's got better (2010 > onwards) so I thought I'd give it a whirl.

LSainsbury 23-08-2010 09:10

Re: Windows Defender
 
And now there's a fake MSE Alert!

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/beware...rogue-software

Sasha222 23-08-2010 09:16

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077474)

I was blocked from downloading it yesterday. Just as well. Going to buy it today and before I do is it worth buying or is there better AV I can buy. Also I know that I can remove the one I have at the moment from the add and remove but does this actually remove it or does the AV I have installed keep running in the background somewhere as I dont want to have the two clashing when I install the new one

Kymmy 23-08-2010 09:34

Re: Windows Defender
 
Always remove one AV before installing another, defender though is anothre matter as that will be either turned off or rendered defunct.

The link I gave you to MSE is the proper link and is free

Sasha222 23-08-2010 09:36

Re: Windows Defender
 
Thanks Kymmy. It told me yesterday that Windows defender was deleted but something is stopping me from downloading. The link you gave me yesterday I tried to use loads of times but it said my settings were blocking it from being downloaded.

Kymmy 23-08-2010 09:40

Re: Windows Defender
 
Ill zip up the installer I have (it's for the v2 beta install that is a lot better than v1) and put it on my website for you. Will send you a link in PM

LSainsbury 23-08-2010 09:49

Re: Windows Defender
 
...or use another PC and put it onto a flash drive and install from there. As Kymmy said already - remove anything you have already and reboot.

Some people say disable / remove the LAN cable at this point as well to disconnect you from 'internet.

Sasha222 23-08-2010 10:01

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35077490)
Ill zip up the installer I have (it's for the v2 beta install that is a lot better than v1) and put it on my website for you. Will send you a link in PM

Thanks so much Kymmy. That is really good of you. Much appricated. :D;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35077490)
Ill zip up the installer I have (it's for the v2 beta install that is a lot better than v1) and put it on my website for you. Will send you a link in PM

That installed no problem. Thanks Kymmy again

Matty_ 23-08-2010 13:05

Re: Windows Defender
 
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I would run a Full Scan defirish just so everything has been given the once over. It may take a while.
Remember to update it before you do the scan, click Help the About security essentials and you should see the same as the pic.

Hopefully it will come up clean :)

What security software where you using previously?

Sasha222 23-08-2010 13:11

Re: Windows Defender
 
Nortan and it was running out of date so had to delete it

Kymmy 23-08-2010 13:14

Re: Windows Defender
 
One thing puzzling me is that the MSE download was blocked... Now that's normally the behaviour of a trojan/malware..

Defirish can I suggest you also run explicit antimalware tools (you can uninstall delete later) such as Anti-malwarebytes and spybot S&D

Sasha222 23-08-2010 13:28

Re: Windows Defender
 
Will def try later. The one you gave me this Morning is running brill and have done a virus check and nothing has shown up

wwe 23-08-2010 13:36

Re: Windows Defender
 
Thats good

Kymmy 23-08-2010 13:37

Re: Windows Defender
 
Good, it's simple to use but not infallible.... I use it in conjunction with the anti-malwarebytes and it keep most things at bay

Sasha222 23-08-2010 17:23

Re: Windows Defender
 
Just spend half a day at a computer clinic shop and my problem was that I had deleted Windows defender but for some reason it was still on in the background and also my setting were all over the place and not a virus in sight. So have it all sorted now and Kymmy the AV you gave me is working a treat. So thanks so much for everything.

Dont know why the settings went the way they did as I wouldn't even know where to begin to change them. I think my laptop has got a mind of It's own at this stage :D

wwe 23-08-2010 17:24

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35077802)
Just spend half a day at a computer clinic shop and my problem was that I had deleted Windows defender but for some reason it was still on in the background and also my setting were all over the place and not a virus in sight. So have it all sorted now and Kymmy the AV you gave me is working a treat. So thanks so much for everything.

Dont know why the settings went the way they did as I wouldn't even know where to begin to change them. I think my laptop has got a mind of It's own at this stage :D

think you will have delete them when you unistalled it

LSainsbury 23-08-2010 19:02

Re: Windows Defender
 
Please don't tell us you took your PC to *cough* *splutter* PC World *splutter* *cough*

Peter_ 23-08-2010 19:04

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077899)
Please don't tell us you took your PC to *cough* *splutter* PC World *splutter* *cough*

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/08/17.gif:D:D:D:D:D

Sasha222 23-08-2010 19:12

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077899)
Please don't tell us you took your PC to *cough* *splutter* PC World *splutter* *cough*

No not a chance. Just it to a local place down the road from me. :D

wwe 23-08-2010 19:19

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35077914)
No not a chance. Just it to a local place down the road from me. :D

thats ok then it cheapper if u go to a place like that go to pcworld cost so much money.

LSainsbury 23-08-2010 19:21

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35077922)
thats ok then it cheapper if u go to a place like that go to pcworld cost so much money.

Yeah and you forgot to mention they are Muppets!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35077902)


Do you mind? I've just had my dinner!! :)

wwe 23-08-2010 19:23

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077925)
Yeah and you forgot to mention they are Muppets!!

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Do you mind? I've just had my dinner!! :)

very true they are :D

Peter_ 23-08-2010 19:23

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 35077925)





Do you mind? I've just had my dinner!! :)

Sorry here is a better one.


Sasha222 23-08-2010 19:29

Re: Windows Defender
 
Thats all I was short of today doing that to get my lappy sorted before I brought it to get sorted.

wwe 23-08-2010 19:32

Re: Windows Defender
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by defirish (Post 35077945)
Thats all I was short of today doing that to get my lappy sorted before I brought it to get sorted.

its good you got it all sorted.

wwe 24-08-2010 16:20

Re: Windows Defender
 
hi defirish hows ur new soffware working is it all going ok?

Boaz 02-09-2010 15:23

Re: Windows Defender
 
I stopped using WD after something got through one time. I use Spybot instead and no problems (touch wood).


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