Web attack knows where you live and Google Paranoia.
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10850875

scary stuff !

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Scary??? Paranoid more like it...

Most IP's don't have a lot of geo-location details, VM have more than many but even do geo-locating puts me between 4-8 miles away.. 9 meters is only relevant when the IP belongs to a source they can truly trace..

You're in more danger of people finding you through details you've put on the net yourself than anything else...

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As I understand it, Google created a database of router Mac addresses and associated GPS location when it went around for streetview. That database, in association being able to rig someone's router to give up the mac address could be sufficient.

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But you're talking about the difference between public and not public data..

Google does need their backsides kicked for gathering the data.. Even if this data was to become public it'll be outdated by then (and possibly now for a good proportion of the data) and all you need to do is simply change your IP and router MAC

As I said it's paranoid big brother style mentality

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change ip is easy . router mac not so easy.
if your router is a vm all in one with mac address on vm,s database and you change mac address you will not be able to log in

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Which very few people have..

As I said the database is already out of date and will be more so as time goes by..

Do Virgin Media residential even supply these all-in one modem/routers?

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not sure but bt do and sky

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So because a few ISP's do we should all get paranoid??? ;)

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furthermore it applies to the rest of the world not just the uk


“Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me”
or did you think that google maps was just in the uk

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Nope, but as I will say again it's outdated data... It's a snapshop of a certain time, nothing more and nothing less.. Yet the news claims is that "Privacy is dead"

Big Brother is watching us... let's all put on our tin foil hats!!!!

:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

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By default, Firefox asks if you wish to share your location with a website. The article mentions using Firefox. Unless he has found a way to bypass the query (which is possible), then the user would need to consent to send their location.

Still, you can always disable it: http://www.mozilla.com/en-GB/firefox/geolocation/

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don't own one.:shocked:
:idea: but can i borrow your,s

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Sorry but mine a specialist fit, it has an anti-stupid chip built in.. ;) and gawd do I need to get rid of my stupid thoughts :) They're telling me to do naughty things!!!

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sorry to hear that kymmy i dont mind that your stupid chip is set for your brain it will properly not affect any one else :D:D

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If you are that scared then get off the internet...:rolleyes:

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may all your hard drives have bad clusters

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Hey if it helps those adverts pinpoint where exactly those sexy young girls in my area who want to have sex with me are, I'm all for it :D

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until you turn up to find...Bob, 68, retired accountant looking for fun :p:

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Don't know how it works where you are, but they always come to me.

and I've never had a Bob :D

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OK, so I have read a little more on this. The above was based on my reading of the BBC Article, which, it seems, is wrong in the way it describes some of the more technical aspects of the attack.

According to El Register, the attack uses some javacript to log in to the router's web based admin site from the victim's machine. That machine retrieves the MAC of the router from the admin site and sends it elsewhere. I suspect the victim's machine sends the MAC to Google's Location Services, retrieves the location and sends that elsewhere.

I am not sure if I see this as a threat. I complained about Google's actions because Google maintain a *lot* of data tied to a Google ID, including the IP(s) used to access it. With their Street View data theft, they have the rough (to within a few metres) position of those IPs, so they may well have a fairly good idea of who, in what house, has been accessing what. Even if you don't access Google sites regularly, if you have signed into a Google site on a PC, then any sites you visit that use Google AdWords will be logged along with your Google ID.

But, your average hacker probably would not have access to that data. OK, so if you proudly boast on a social networking site that you are off out, and they have your ID on that site, then you could have a problem.

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I thought Google admitted they were wrong in collecting that data. If that's the case, why is it still available? Why haven't they destroyed it?

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They never admitted to being wrong for collecting MACS. It's the other data they collected they admitted is wrong.

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I hit a nerve I gather.:D

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Only after your credit card details were validated.....;)

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I only pay cash.
as nice as they are, I wouldn't trust them with my card details :)

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Trolling posts removed.

Calm down. Now.

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OK - serious question - how did they manage to get the MAC of the router by driving by whist taking the streetview photos?

If your Wi-Fi is broadcasting, can they get the MAC from just driving by? My Wi-Fi is secured but DHCP is on. The only way I could see them getting the MAC would be by gaining access to the router - which is not possible 'cus they won't have the network key.

I'm sure DHCP broadcasts the MAC but they would have to logon with the network key first - yes?

Google have not come down our road so I'm safe!

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They dont need access to your router to get your routers mac address. They dont need access to anything at all to gather wireless router/access point mac addresses in fact. They can just pluck them right out the air so to speak, hidden or not.
I believe they actually used freely available software in conjunction with some Google specific stuff.

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Google under probe in S.Korea over data collection

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6791BR20100810

also
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE67A2VJ20100811

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Google 'faces legal action in France' over Street View



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...reet-View.html

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now maggy you don't have to shout :D your the boss you decide