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iFrankie 14-06-2010 02:11

Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Lady Gaga - Alejandro

I for one don't find this offensive, maybe because i'm not highly religious.

Quote:

The singer seems to have invited the wrath of Catholic Church as she is seen swallowing rosary beads while getting close with her lover in bed and experimenting with intimacy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010...gaga-alejandro

Do you find it offensive?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA

Piece of art in my eyes ;).

Maggy 14-06-2010 07:41

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Well it is rather risible and I had to stifle my laughing at this hour of the morning before I woke up any neighbours.:rofl:

I can see that the S&M red nun outfit, the rosary bit and the inverted cross might upset the Vatican and Catholics in general.I thought the simulated sex scenes were silly and just thrown in to shock..But it isn't much worse than Madonna's previous efforts to upset Catholics.

To be totally honest the song is brilliant enough and doesn't need this very funny attempt to shock.

It's certainly cheered me up at this hour on a Monday morning. :D

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 09:12

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
I do not. The thing is the press seem to be out to get Gaga they did the same thing with Telephone which was a lot sexier.

One thing that does come out in this video is how unattractive she is without loads of face makeup on. I always thought she was quite good looking even though the press said she was fugly. Mind you with a body as fit as hers I wouldnt say no anyway lol

Kymmy 14-06-2010 09:15

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
She's just copying a certain Madonna video in trying to use shock tactics aimed at the catholic religion

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 09:25

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Do you mean Like A Prayer? because I can not see any resemblance at all between the 2 videos? They are totally different and totally different styles of song

Madonna did wear pointed Bra in a lot of her live shows but ive never seen her wear one with M60's pointing out the front

Kymmy 14-06-2010 09:28

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Try rereading my post and note that I said it's the same because she's trying to use "religious shock tactics"

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 09:33

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
nah I still disagree I do not think she is copying anything in anyway. Gaga has her own style and does not need to copy anyone elses style.

Perhaps she just decided that was the way to go with the video I doubt Madonna has anything to do with it.

Unless of course you are prepared to say any artist that are just singing without anything else are copying Queen . Just because an artist uses a certain subject thats been used before does not mean they are copying any and all previous users of said subject ..

Kymmy 14-06-2010 09:42

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Nope, just said one comment about comparing one madonna video to another which both use religion as symbols of shock, nothing more and nothing else. If you truly believe that there's an anything else to be said about my thoughts (amazing what people infere from just a few words...PMSL) then please go ahead with your limited viewpoint on the matter.

Gary L 14-06-2010 09:51

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
No wonder the kids today are the way they are with videos like these on the tele! :D

Kymmy 14-06-2010 09:55

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35040539)
No wonder the kids today are the way they are with videos like these on the tele! :D

I don't think the vids are totally to blame, just a small part of the culture that shapes our children.. Probably why I decided never to have any :D

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 10:04

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35040536)
Nope, just said one comment about comparing one madonna video to another which both use religion as symbols of shock, nothing more and nothing else. If you truly believe that there's an anything else to be said about my thoughts (amazing what people infere from just a few words...PMSL) then please go ahead with your limited viewpoint on the matter.

look kymmy I was going totally on what you said. You backtrack all the time. You didnt say comparing you said and using your words "she's just copying" you said it there clear in type kymmy so I am not infering anything just going on what you said.

Maggy 14-06-2010 10:25

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
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Originally Posted by zing (Post 35040533)
nah I still disagree I do not think she is copying anything in anyway. Gaga has her own style and does not need to copy anyone elses style.

Perhaps she just decided that was the way to go with the video I doubt Madonna has anything to do with it.

Unless of course you are prepared to say any artist that are just singing without anything else are copying Queen . Just because an artist uses a certain subject thats been used before does not mean they are copying any and all previous users of said subject ..

Sorry zing I can see Kymmy's point..They are not exactly alike BUT they are similar in trying to use similar shock tactics against the Catholic church.

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Anyway I think it too funny for words..I can't wait to see the send ups on YouTube..:D[COLOR="Silver"]

Tony. 14-06-2010 10:29

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
No not offensive at all.
If the idea was to upset the Catholics then Madonna's video was much better at it.
Considering the sexualisation of our children that has already happened perhaps this video should carry a 15 rating.

papa smurf 14-06-2010 10:35

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
whats more to the point is how did that chap get his hands on Derek S's riot helmet ;)

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 11:06

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35040552)
Sorry zing I can see Kymmy's point..They are not exactly alike BUT they are similar in trying to use similar shock tactics against the Catholic church.

---------- Post added at 10:23 ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 ----------

Anyway I think it too funny for words..I can't wait to see the send ups on YouTube..:D

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What is it with you zing?Can't people disagree with you without you regarding them as an enemy..

kymmy said "copied"

Last time I looked similar does not mean copied or does it maggy? your the teacher just because something is similar does it mean its copied? Does the fact both Madonna and Gaga use religion in totally different videos mean Gaga copied Madonna? I do not think so.

I do not think its "copied" the only resemblance is the fact it uses catholic religion

Maggy 14-06-2010 11:10

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Maybe you are being too literal as I understood her viewpoint wasn't copied exactly but to be similar in using Catholic symbolism to shock.

Anyway it's hardly that important to get uptight about.

Stephen 14-06-2010 11:34

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
I don't find it offensive at all, however she has tried to do what Madonna did and used the Catholic symbols and imagary to cause an uproar and get the video more publicity IMO.

Or just to be weird like she usually is.

Zing, Kymmy was correct in saying copied as she was referencing the use of Catholic symbolism and not that the video was copied.

punky 14-06-2010 11:46

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
I find the audio quite offensive to my ears. Its like a glorified Eurovision song.

Paul 14-06-2010 12:01

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Any more personal comments in this thread will be deleted and the poster infracted. Grow up people.

zing_deleted 14-06-2010 12:56

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35040620)
I don't find it offensive at all, however she has tried to do what Madonna did and used the Catholic symbols and imagary to cause an uproar and get the video more publicity IMO.

Or just to be weird like she usually is.

Zing, Kymmy was correct in saying copied as she was referencing the use of Catholic symbolism and not that the video was copied.

absolute rubbish

Why does the fact Madonna made a totally different video years using Religion mean that Gaga has "copied" it today? it does not simples

Maggy 14-06-2010 13:06

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Anyway back on topic

martyh 14-06-2010 23:40

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
well me and my wife have just watched it (both GaGa fans)and came to the same conclusion ,not offensive ...unless you are Madonna:D
we both think it is a bit of a p...take of Madonna and Gagas' way of telling Madonna that her time is up and a new queen of pop is here and whatever Madonna did GaGa can do it better
would be interesting to see a reaction from Madonna

but very well done imo :)

iFrankie 15-06-2010 00:06

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35041064)
well me and my wife have just watched it (both GaGa fans)and came to the same conclusion ,not offensive ...unless you are Madonna:D
we both think it is a bit of a p...take of Madonna and Gagas' way of telling Madonna that her time is up and a new queen of pop is here and whatever Madonna did GaGa can do it better
would be interesting to see a reaction from Madonna

but very well done imo :)

Who is Madonna? ;).

Its like a modern version of "Like A Prayer".

martyh 15-06-2010 00:11

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35041074)
Who is Madonna? ;).

Its like a modern version of Like A Prayer.

actually i thought it was a number of madonna songs like a prayer ,virgin ,vogue all with a backround taken from Evita

iFrankie 15-06-2010 00:12

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Anyone else find the lyrics powerful?

martyh 15-06-2010 00:14

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
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Originally Posted by iFrankie (Post 35041078)
Anyone else find the lyrics powerful?

I agree with your first comment it is very arty as with all of gagas' videos and yes very powerfull

Flyboy 15-06-2010 02:08

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Maybe I am just getting too old, but I found it to be...well....crap!

Maggy 15-06-2010 07:06

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
I'm still laughing at it.:D

Shame about the video but the song is great...

Uncle Peter 15-06-2010 15:44

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
Coming from an Irish/Polish (parents) catholic background perhaps I should find it offensive but I don't because it's ultimately just another crass, disposable pop song which I'd have otherwise completely ignored if it weren't for this thread.

Hiroki 15-06-2010 17:11

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
I don't find it offensive at all but that's because Madonna has done it all before.

Lady Gaga looks like "True Blue" era Madonna in the video, the song sounds like "La Isla Bonita" and the video tries to ape "Like A Prayer".

It just looks like one of those montage type videos that labels put out first when a new song from a greatest hits album leaks and they have to cobble something together - It lacks any though and originality and it's quite cheap to take a pop at a religion to get attention and keep you in the papers.

The girl needs to find her own style and originality quick or she will just fade out.

Dude111 15-07-2022 08:09

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Originally Posted by Maggy
I'm still laughing at it.:D

Shame about the video but the song is great...

Hehe I didnt watch the youtube video yet but the MP3 is OK and for today that says alot! (Sounds like a techno mix)

http://www.inspiration-for-success.com/music/lady-gaga-alejandro-bimbo-jones-club-mix-dj-mebbe.mp3

Halcyon 15-07-2022 09:48

Re: Do you find this music video offensive?
 
In her early days Lady Gaga got attention through shocking videos and lifestyle.
She's calmed down a bit now.


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