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My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
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My area is (according to response on DS) currently part of a trial for a new OD search feature that when you type in a word, it allows you to search through Catch up, TV Choice, FilmFlex, Music OD and/or All OD. It also shows a selection of OD content that I assume are (or will be) tailored to the sprt of things the viewer normally watches. See here for that thread: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post40406008 Main part of my feedback so far is... Just little things like it'd be good if it searched V+ recordings too. The graphics are OK but some branding would be better (at moment very simple and plain) but just a bit of VM red etc would spruce it up a little. Speed of use, very good! Being able to search any part of the content name (for instance if you want Britains Got Talent, you should be able to find that by searching any of those words eg. Talent rather than having to type Britain...). A 'remind me later' or bookmark feature would be good so as you come across content that you're interested in you can mark it to go back to another time (assuming content still available OD). The ability to store search words/terms so that if it's a favourite File or Music Video you watch over and over then you can just reselect. A new option from the 'Home' menu simply to 'Search all OD' (No brainer surely)!!! I wouldn't be surprised though if like the original OD Search option this disappears after the trial for 2 or 3 months after it woking perfectly fine apart from on some old Pace boxes!!! Will be a shame but that's life! Very impressed overall though. I have to say that VM really are starting to use the technology that's available on their wholly-owned network. About time too overall. Amazing really considering it's ntl rebranded and it was Telewset that innovated, ntl used to just follow. (I'm ex-ntl btw). They said on DS that the feedback may go further on here. Here I am, bearing my all :erm: - I welcome myself to the community lol! |
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You are in the trial area for Intelligent TV, just a little snippet of the stuff coming later this year :)
Leave feedback in this thread, we do read it! :) P.S. :welcome: to CableForum! |
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Nice they named it after me too LOLOL OK bad joke! I will update anything else I notice or think of :D Do you know any more about it? Are the programmes shown based on my viewing habits (of linear and/or OD)? p.s. Thanks for having me mate! :waving::clap: p.s.s. The emotions (or whatever they're called) are clearly much more advanced on this site :woot: |
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Yes I like to Emoticons on here too :dmonk: |
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Is there any chance of a few screenshots at all please? :)
Would love to see how it looks. |
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just spotted we have this in brighton too
its very good |
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Same here in Gateshead :clap:
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Got this in London too, on 'TV Choice On Demand' & 'Catch Up TV On Demand'
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Is this just for certain boxes?
Just I am in Gateshead like GordonD and I don't have this feature on my box. |
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Can confirm this is on my V+ today in Telford area.
Must say I'm liking it and especially now you can see something similar too using "more like this" Watched Skins, pressed more like this when pressing stop and a similar program did come up. Great feature :) All I can suggest is moving Search to Home menu, and putting Settings, Help & Info together |
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My top 3 wants are: A single search option that searches ALL VoD content types That single search option is then located on the Home menu Wildcard searches are enabled for easier searching :) |
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Which, by the way, everyone is going to get by mid-June |
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Got the search facility in Redcar(Teesside) Looks good. :)
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Just need it moved to the Home menu then ;) |
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It's a blue button option at the bottom of the main EPG screen when you select 'Home'
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Ben if you're in contact with any of the people who do the EPG, let them know they're doing a good job from all of us here at CF :)
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Could that be what the extra channel and TS Stream that appeared recently were for? |
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So I take it that I don't have Intelligent TV (ITV? :confused:) yet. Am I ever likely to have it on a Pace Di4000-N V Box? |
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yes, everyone will get it by mid-June
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Ta! Hey, it's nearly mid-June now! Gimme, gimme, gimme!
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i now have this in the wolverhampton headend, the problem now is, that an error keeps coming up when you search, is it in test status, or shoudl i call and report the problem?
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Have you rebooted your box?
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Yeah did the reboot, etc the other night still didnt, work.
Just got the girlfriend to re-try it, she says it is working now. i just hope it not a problem that raises itshead during peak hours, as OnDemand does have issues during peak times |
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I will check when i get home, You watch it will work perfectly now, but had this problem for the last few nights on the run,
Ps, i believe im on the Wolves headend, Sandwell : Postcode WS10 |
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Had the same problem as you the other day even after a reboot.
Telford area. It's fine now though. |
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What should I be looking out for to determine if I have got iTV yet?
See what I did there? I used the italic 'i' to represent the Intelligent in Intelligent TV. This could set a trend! |
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You get an option at the bottom of the 'Home' screen with the blue button and the 'Prees Blue to search' or something simliar
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You mean "I will get an option at the bottom of the 'Home' screen" at some point in the not too distant future.
I thought that now we are all singing from the same NGTV hymn sheet that we all had the exact same services available to us. So does this mean that there still can be (see Radio Times for) regional head-end variations? |
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Any new service can still be rollout on on a Regional Headend basis
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The enhanced search replaces the current search functions in the On Demand areas, so is currently only accessed from there |
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I don't seem to get this option in Teesside, even though someone above suggested it was.
Has this been temporarily removed? Just curious... |
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Some feedback and comments on the new search facility.
On the whole very pleased with it and the speed at which results are returned but a few improvements are required: 1) A search option should be placed on the main menu 2) Make the "ALL OD" category the default search category 3) If a search does not return any programmes in the default search category, you cannot press left to the preceding category. You can only press right to the next category. (pressing left just backspaces your previous input string). This would not be such a problem if 2) above was implemented. 4) Page numbers are not in the usual format (page x of y). If any of the usual VM staffers on CF would care to pass this on, I'd appreciate it. Thx. |
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Is it possible to enter a space when searching, e.g. could I search for "big bang theory" rather than "big" to narrow the search?
Another suggestion: When searching Music On Demand, a "Play all" option would be extremely beneficial. Very impressed with it overall though, well done VM! |
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I thought the zero key did a space?
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I still haven't got it.. Why the hell not??:mad:
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Anything like this is rolled out in stages to make sure nothing breaks. |
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I have to say that i have been reading this thread with bated breath and have to say that this function has just been added here in BARNSLEY. It does make the search alot easier:D
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Tried the searches: BRO, BROT, BROTH
It did not find Band of Brothers (HD) - of which there are 11 episodes in TVChoice!? A search for: 'PEA' finds Black Eyed Peas ok though Looks like there are some bugs to iron out. |
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I take it this hasn't arrived in Wigan yet as my box doesn't seem to have it ?
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Hasn't arrived here in staffs yet either.
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This sounds really good. I use On Demand alot and this would help. Any ideas when it will be in the Portsmouth area?
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I just bought one of the old Pace remote control keyboards on eBay and I can't get it to work with the search facility. It assumes that you are using a numeric remote control and it does not offer the standard editing interface that you use with e-mail etc. (see also 3 regarding left arrow/backspace above) so you have to use the numeric keys on the keyboard to generate letters, spaces and punctuation! :( |
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To be honest that's because the Keyboards haven't been sold or supported by Virgin for several years now, so the services aren't tested for compatability against them
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They've deviated from the standard interface that is used elsewhere and that customers are familiar with. Even the left arrow key cannot be used for navigation! The Blue button is supposed to be Delete and Green should toggle between Numeric and Alpha input.
Tell them to confirm to the existing user interface standards both for text editing and navigation! I think the screen looks a bit ropey too. The navigation tabs just don't look right. |
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Green - used for Page Up (as is elsewhere). Blue - could have been used for delete; however that relegates the "More Like This" functionality to an option from the (i) button programme info screen, hence the deviation. Left button deletes characters while the text input field is highlighted (watch the arrow indication - you will see it change when switching highlight from the results area to the input field). Once you have results, left button will let you switch categories to the left unless you use the up button to put highlight back on the text input field or use number keys to change the search term. |
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That would make more sense wouldn't it? The yellow button seems to be neglected at times :( |
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You just reminded me, i've missed out some info about the blue button :)
The "More like this" would be replaced with "[Blue] Delete" when inside the text box. A play all button would be very good. Would be nice to make playlists on the fly too, hopefully a feature for Tivo? |
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As of Thursday I have this delightful new search that confuses me :):(:confused::D
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You will hopefully get used to it :) It's very helpful!
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Thanks though :) |
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So when are we ALL supposed to get :confused::mad::(
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It's in Belfast so it must be nearly fully rolled out!
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Available here today as well, but I can only access the new search feature when stopping an on demand program and selecting the new third 'more like this' option. I've also noticed when searching with the new search, for example, The Wire it lists the full 12 episode list while the normal list in the old search and in HBO channel list only shows 8.
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The search in BBC iPlayer uses Blue as clear/delete as does set-top-box e-mail which also uses Red to toggle upper/lower case, Green to toggle alpha/number mode, Yellow to access symbols and the arrow keys do what they should: move left, right, up and down. There are several other places where the keys operate like this for editing text and always have done in all of the years that I've had a digital box. |
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Ive now got the search option now at last.:)..and its really good...so far:D
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How'd ya get it fixed Whingey? ;)
It was certainly an odd one and apparently unique to you! |
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Noticed this new search menu yesterday, but there seems to be some teething problems with the catch-up part.
1 - Some BBC programmes (may be others too, but it's these I've noticed) from Sunday/Monday don't seem to be on catch-up. Panorama from Monday for example - I can't see this under A-Z or search. 2 - Search function not finding everything. Take Newsnight. A-Z listing and it finds all the "episodes" you'd expect. Catch-up search and it only finds yesterdays. Not sure if this by accident or design. I'd also agree it could do with an option at the bottom of the screen to say how many pages of results there are. Page up & down is fine, but "Page x of y" would be good. I'm in BS37, BTW. Jon. |
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....agree about the teething problems.
This new search feature has landed in my area so I thought I'd give it a quick spin. When into it, with the blue "more like this" button at the bottom of the page. There were already four selections of programmes there so I pressed the blue "more like this" button on the Scottish parliament programme hoping to get more of the same. (Not sure why I selected Scottish parliament, perhaps I just wanted to see what those Scots were wasting our taxpayers money on...:) ). I digress. But instead of getting more Scotch Parliament action, one of the options was Jeremy Kyle!:td: Now, I know the Scots are a rough bunch but they're not as bad as that total plonker...:LOL: I've just given it one last try, so I pressed the magic blue button on Homes Under The Hammer, an easy subject to find similar stuff, one would think. This is what I got: Indian Hill Railways Animal Park A Century Of Fatherhood Crop To Shop Gardener's World Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives At least when I'm bored, I've got a new toy to play with now. I guess Gardener's World is related to stuff about homes, but Parallel Worlds?? |
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does anybody know when this roll out is going to be complete? Still no sign of it in the West of Southampton.
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Can i just ask a question ben does the search say you type in horror mostly horror films come up or with horror in the title does this depend on your chosen package?,i did ask the chap who i beta test for but he had nothing to do with the testing phase.
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I think whatever you type in will search the whole thing. So both Title and Genre
For instance I've just typed in 'Comedy' and it's brought up both things with Comedy in the title and things like 'Frasier' |
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It also brought up from the TV Guide 'Family Guy' which is showing on FX and in Catch up TV 'Mongrels' on BBC HD
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We dont sub to movies but put a search in for batman returns which is on in a while and it didnt come up just golmaal returns which i guess is pay per view.
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My RC keyboard is one of those remotes and I think it should be supported by the search as it's the very sort of application that the keyboards were intended for. :tu: The context-sensitivity should not apply only to Blue but to Red, Green and Yellow too (or we'll need more coloured buttons! :rolleyes:). |
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Soon you'll be getting seeds and tickets to steam rallies in the post! :shocked: |
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I like the fact that I can record any program that I find as a result of playing around in the search/TV guide area and that I still have access to the information option.
I know , I know, simple things but they appeal to me. :D |
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It certainly sounds like the search can be quite clever when it wants to be, and I'm impressed with the interface.
But.. I've just searched for "east" - it should pick up any episodes of Eastenders from last Tuesday onwards.. surely?? Nope. Not even Sunday's omnibus. A-Z listing and scroll through, they're all there. Not right. |
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I noticed it doesn't pick up part of a word, I was trying entour the other night to see if it found entourage and it would not, so probably the same thing for Eastenders and east
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There are some known listing issues that should be fixed soon.
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Still a great feature though, glad it has been added even though there is a few bugs :)
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Any ideas on a timescale for these issues to be fixed? I'm just wondering whether we're talking days or weeks.. Thanks |
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Not sure, but definately not before the World Cup ends as Virgin stop with a lot of TV changes to minimise any possibility of channel loss (no matter how brief)
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I'd be interested to know if these search issues are resolved before the weekend, as I've got a tech visit now booked for this and one other issue Saturday morning. I don't think for one minute it's a box issue, but CS insisted on a home visit to "investigate" this, so if that's what it takes... |
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I really do hope this isn't going to be brushed under the carpet! Rgds |
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