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War On 21-05-2010 09:38

My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Hi,

My area is (according to response on DS) currently part of a trial for a new OD search feature that when you type in a word, it allows you to search through Catch up, TV Choice, FilmFlex, Music OD and/or All OD. It also shows a selection of OD content that I assume are (or will be) tailored to the sprt of things the viewer normally watches.

See here for that thread: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post40406008

Main part of my feedback so far is... Just little things like it'd be good if it searched V+ recordings too. The graphics are OK but some branding would be better (at moment very simple and plain) but just a bit of VM red etc would spruce it up a little.

Speed of use, very good! Being able to search any part of the content name (for instance if you want Britains Got Talent, you should be able to find that by searching any of those words eg. Talent rather than having to type Britain...).

A 'remind me later' or bookmark feature would be good so as you come across content that you're interested in you can mark it to go back to another time (assuming content still available OD).

The ability to store search words/terms so that if it's a favourite File or Music Video you watch over and over then you can just reselect.

A new option from the 'Home' menu simply to 'Search all OD' (No brainer surely)!!!

I wouldn't be surprised though if like the original OD Search option this disappears after the trial for 2 or 3 months after it woking perfectly fine apart from on some old Pace boxes!!! Will be a shame but that's life!

Very impressed overall though. I have to say that VM really are starting to use the technology that's available on their wholly-owned network. About time too overall.

Amazing really considering it's ntl rebranded and it was Telewset that innovated, ntl used to just follow. (I'm ex-ntl btw).


They said on DS that the feedback may go further on here. Here I am, bearing my all :erm: - I welcome myself to the community lol!

Digital Fanatic 21-05-2010 09:46

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
You are in the trial area for Intelligent TV, just a little snippet of the stuff coming later this year :)

Leave feedback in this thread, we do read it! :)

P.S. :welcome: to CableForum!

War On 21-05-2010 10:48

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35025521)
You are in the trial area for Intelligent TV, just a little snippet of the stuff coming later this year :)

Leave feedback in this thread, we do read it! :)

P.S. :welcome: to CableForum!

Intelligent TV eh?! (is this any thing to do with the Tivo interface? Is this VM design only or is it something they are working on with tivo already)?

Nice they named it after me too LOLOL

OK bad joke!

I will update anything else I notice or think of :D

Do you know any more about it? Are the programmes shown based on my viewing habits (of linear and/or OD)?


p.s. Thanks for having me mate! :waving::clap:

p.s.s. The emotions (or whatever they're called) are clearly much more advanced on this site :woot:

Digital Fanatic 21-05-2010 13:07

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by War On (Post 35025555)
Intelligent TV eh?! (is this any thing to do with the Tivo interface? Is this VM design only or is it something they are working on with tivo already)?

Nice they named it after me too LOLOL

OK bad joke!

I will update anything else I notice or think of :D

Do you know any more about it? Are the programmes shown based on my viewing habits (of linear and/or OD)?


p.s. Thanks for having me mate! :waving::clap:

p.s.s. The emotions (or whatever they're called) are clearly much more advanced on this site :woot:

It's TIVO like, yes... can't say too much as it's all still in development... I think it's supposed to be a blind trial, so you just discover the features as they add them.

Yes I like to Emoticons on here too :dmonk:

jtaylor06 21-05-2010 16:53

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Is there any chance of a few screenshots at all please? :)
Would love to see how it looks.

invisibleboy 22-05-2010 09:30

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
just spotted we have this in brighton too




its very good

GordonD 22-05-2010 15:08

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Same here in Gateshead :clap:

johnasimmons 23-05-2010 09:37

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Got this in London too, on 'TV Choice On Demand' & 'Catch Up TV On Demand'

Hiroki 23-05-2010 19:16

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Is this just for certain boxes?

Just I am in Gateshead like GordonD and I don't have this feature on my box.

jtaylor06 27-05-2010 18:41

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Can confirm this is on my V+ today in Telford area.

Must say I'm liking it and especially now you can see something similar too using "more like this"
Watched Skins, pressed more like this when pressing stop and a similar program did come up.

Great feature :)

All I can suggest is moving Search to Home menu, and putting Settings, Help & Info together

Sasha222 27-05-2010 18:55

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by War On (Post 35025519)
Hi,

My area is (according to response on DS) currently part of a trial for a new OD search feature that when you type in a word, it allows you to search through Catch up, TV Choice, FilmFlex, Music OD and/or All OD. It also shows a selection of OD content that I assume are (or will be) tailored to the sprt of things the viewer normally watches.

See here for that thread: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1#post40406008

Main part of my feedback so far is... Just little things like it'd be good if it searched V+ recordings too. The graphics are OK but some branding would be better (at moment very simple and plain) but just a bit of VM red etc would spruce it up a little.

Speed of use, very good! Being able to search any part of the content name (for instance if you want Britains Got Talent, you should be able to find that by searching any of those words eg. Talent rather than having to type Britain...).

A 'remind me later' or bookmark feature would be good so as you come across content that you're interested in you can mark it to go back to another time (assuming content still available OD).

The ability to store search words/terms so that if it's a favourite File or Music Video you watch over and over then you can just reselect.

A new option from the 'Home' menu simply to 'Search all OD' (No brainer surely)!!!

I wouldn't be surprised though if like the original OD Search option this disappears after the trial for 2 or 3 months after it woking perfectly fine apart from on some old Pace boxes!!! Will be a shame but that's life!

Very impressed overall though. I have to say that VM really are starting to use the technology that's available on their wholly-owned network. About time too overall.

Amazing really considering it's ntl rebranded and it was Telewset that innovated, ntl used to just follow. (I'm ex-ntl btw).


They said on DS that the feedback may go further on here. Here I am, bearing my all :erm: - I welcome myself to the community lol!

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BikeNutt 28-05-2010 13:47

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35029312)
Can confirm this is on my V+ today in Telford area.

Must say I'm liking it and especially now you can see something similar too using "more like this"
Watched Skins, pressed more like this when pressing stop and a similar program did come up.

Great feature :)

All I can suggest is moving Search to Home menu, and putting Settings, Help & Info together

Agreed. I use the search option quite a bit - mainly for music videos.

My top 3 wants are:

A single search option that searches ALL VoD content types
That single search option is then located on the Home menu
Wildcard searches are enabled for easier searching

:)

BenMcr 28-05-2010 14:09

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BikeNutt (Post 35029784)
A single search option that searches ALL VoD content types
That single search option is then located on the Home menu
Wildcard searches are enabled for easier searching

:)

Guess what the new search does - all of VoD and the EPG ;)

Which, by the way, everyone is going to get by mid-June

clydebuilt 28-05-2010 16:05

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Got the search facility in Redcar(Teesside) Looks good. :)

BikeNutt 28-05-2010 18:08

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35029794)
Guess what the new search does - all of VoD and the EPG ;)

Which, by the way, everyone is going to get by mid-June

Top Banana!

Just need it moved to the Home menu then ;)

BenMcr 28-05-2010 18:48

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
It's a blue button option at the bottom of the main EPG screen when you select 'Home'

jtaylor06 28-05-2010 19:12

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Ben if you're in contact with any of the people who do the EPG, let them know they're doing a good job from all of us here at CF :)

Felim_Doyle 30-05-2010 11:43

Intelligent TV / TVoD search facility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35029958)
It's a blue button option at the bottom of the main EPG screen when you select 'Home'

Well I dunno about a blue button facility but I certainly have search on Catch Up and TV Choice with my basic Pace Di4000-N V Box here in Aylesbury (Watford).

Could that be what the extra channel and TS Stream that appeared recently were for?

BenMcr 30-05-2010 11:44

Re: Intelligent TV / TVoD search facility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35031168)
Well I dunno about a blue button facility but I certainly have search on Catch Up and TV Choice with my basic Pace Di4000-N V Box here in Aylesbury (Watford)

The search on Catch Up and TV Choice have been there a while ;)

Felim_Doyle 31-05-2010 09:06

Re: Intelligent TV / TVoD search facility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35031170)
The search on Catch Up and TV Choice have been there a while ;)

No points for observation skills then! :blush:

So I take it that I don't have Intelligent TV (ITV? :confused:) yet. Am I ever likely to have it on a Pace Di4000-N V Box?

BenMcr 31-05-2010 09:45

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
yes, everyone will get it by mid-June

Felim_Doyle 02-06-2010 12:13

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Ta! Hey, it's nearly mid-June now! Gimme, gimme, gimme!

matt_home1 02-06-2010 12:51

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
i now have this in the wolverhampton headend, the problem now is, that an error keeps coming up when you search, is it in test status, or shoudl i call and report the problem?

BenMcr 02-06-2010 12:55

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Have you rebooted your box?

matt_home1 02-06-2010 14:37

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Yeah did the reboot, etc the other night still didnt, work.
Just got the girlfriend to re-try it, she says it is working now.
i just hope it not a problem that raises itshead during peak hours, as OnDemand does have issues during peak times

Digital Fanatic 02-06-2010 15:24

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matt_home1 (Post 35032794)
Yeah did the reboot, etc the other night still didnt, work.
Just got the girlfriend to re-try it, she says it is working now.
i just hope it not a problem that raises itshead during peak hours, as OnDemand does have issues during peak times

We are not aware of any issues with the Wolves RHE having issues at peak times.. what error are you getting?

matt_home1 02-06-2010 15:55

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I will check when i get home, You watch it will work perfectly now, but had this problem for the last few nights on the run,
Ps, i believe im on the Wolves headend, Sandwell : Postcode WS10

jtaylor06 02-06-2010 16:56

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Had the same problem as you the other day even after a reboot.
Telford area.
It's fine now though.

Felim_Doyle 02-06-2010 18:59

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
What should I be looking out for to determine if I have got iTV yet?

See what I did there? I used the italic 'i' to represent the Intelligent in Intelligent TV. This could set a trend!

BenMcr 02-06-2010 20:44

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
You get an option at the bottom of the 'Home' screen with the blue button and the 'Prees Blue to search' or something simliar

Felim_Doyle 03-06-2010 07:32

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
You mean "I will get an option at the bottom of the 'Home' screen" at some point in the not too distant future.

I thought that now we are all singing from the same NGTV hymn sheet that we all had the exact same services available to us. So does this mean that there still can be (see Radio Times for) regional head-end variations?

BenMcr 03-06-2010 09:13

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Any new service can still be rollout on on a Regional Headend basis

BenMcr 08-06-2010 11:24

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35033072)
You get an option at the bottom of the 'Home' screen with the blue button and the 'Prees Blue to search' or something simliar

Ok sorry about this, apparently you don't. I was apparently looking at out of date information :dunce:

The enhanced search replaces the current search functions in the On Demand areas, so is currently only accessed from there

Bob 12-06-2010 10:47

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I don't seem to get this option in Teesside, even though someone above suggested it was.

Has this been temporarily removed? Just curious...

BikeNutt 17-06-2010 12:47

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Some feedback and comments on the new search facility.

On the whole very pleased with it and the speed at which results are returned but a few improvements are required:

1) A search option should be placed on the main menu
2) Make the "ALL OD" category the default search category
3) If a search does not return any programmes in the default search category, you cannot press left to the preceding category. You can only press right to the next category. (pressing left just backspaces your previous input string). This would not be such a problem if 2) above was implemented.
4) Page numbers are not in the usual format (page x of y).

If any of the usual VM staffers on CF would care to pass this on, I'd appreciate it. Thx.

kgollop 17-06-2010 13:09

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Is it possible to enter a space when searching, e.g. could I search for "big bang theory" rather than "big" to narrow the search?

Another suggestion: When searching Music On Demand, a "Play all" option would be extremely beneficial.

Very impressed with it overall though, well done VM!

BenMcr 17-06-2010 13:20

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I thought the zero key did a space?

windy 17-06-2010 13:22

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I still haven't got it.. Why the hell not??:mad:

BenMcr 17-06-2010 13:26

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 35042583)
I still haven't got it.. Why the hell not??:mad:

Not trying to be sarcastic here but you've not got it because the rollout hasn't finished yet.

Anything like this is rolled out in stages to make sure nothing breaks.

kgollop 17-06-2010 13:27

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35042581)
I thought the zero key did a space?

Just tried it and you're right Ben, thanks (I could have sworn I tried that! :blush:). However, it doesn't narrow the results so I think it must now be searching for "Big" or "Bang".

windy 17-06-2010 13:46

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35042585)
Not trying to be sarcastic here but you've not got it because the rollout hasn't finished yet.

Anything like this is rolled out in stages to make sure nothing breaks.

Someone said that it had all Been rolled out that's why iam getting a little ****ed off.

RobboEdin 17-06-2010 14:10

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 35042596)
Someone said that it had all Been rolled out that's why iam getting a little ****ed off.

The basic NGTV roll-out is complete but this is additional function on top of that. It has a 'More Like This' function as well.

devilincarnate 17-06-2010 14:44

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I have to say that i have been reading this thread with bated breath and have to say that this function has just been added here in BARNSLEY. It does make the search alot easier:D

BikeNutt 17-06-2010 14:58

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Tried the searches: BRO, BROT, BROTH

It did not find Band of Brothers (HD) - of which there are 11 episodes in TVChoice!?

A search for: 'PEA' finds Black Eyed Peas ok though

Looks like there are some bugs to iron out.

Digital Fanatic 17-06-2010 15:03

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 35042596)
Someone said that it had all Been rolled out that's why iam getting a little ****ed off.

There's been a slight delay to the last few areas,, hang in there Windy :)

windy 17-06-2010 17:51

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35042637)
There's been a slight delay to the last few areas,, hang in there Windy :)

I will try and "hang in there"..:erm:

Digital Fanatic 17-06-2010 17:58

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by windy (Post 35042790)
I will try and "hang in there"..:erm:

:D

muppetman11 17-06-2010 18:44

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
I take it this hasn't arrived in Wigan yet as my box doesn't seem to have it ?

gadge 17-06-2010 19:28

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Hasn't arrived here in staffs yet either.

withitnow 18-06-2010 08:34

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
This sounds really good. I use On Demand alot and this would help. Any ideas when it will be in the Portsmouth area?

Felim_Doyle 18-06-2010 10:49

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BikeNutt (Post 35042553)
1) A search option should be placed on the main menu
2) Make the "ALL OD" category the default search category
3) If a search does not return any programmes in the default search category, you cannot press left to the preceding category. You can only press right to the next category. (pressing left just backspaces your previous input string). This would not be such a problem if 2) above was implemented.
4) Page numbers are not in the usual format (page x of y).

All of the above and this ...

I just bought one of the old Pace remote control keyboards on eBay and I can't get it to work with the search facility. It assumes that you are using a numeric remote control and it does not offer the standard editing interface that you use with e-mail etc. (see also 3 regarding left arrow/backspace above) so you have to use the numeric keys on the keyboard to generate letters, spaces and punctuation! :(

BenMcr 18-06-2010 11:14

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
To be honest that's because the Keyboards haven't been sold or supported by Virgin for several years now, so the services aren't tested for compatability against them

Felim_Doyle 18-06-2010 12:59

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
They've deviated from the standard interface that is used elsewhere and that customers are familiar with. Even the left arrow key cannot be used for navigation! The Blue button is supposed to be Delete and Green should toggle between Numeric and Alpha input.

Tell them to confirm to the existing user interface standards both for text editing and navigation!

I think the screen looks a bit ropey too. The navigation tabs just don't look right.

mr.munky 18-06-2010 14:39

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35043317)
They've deviated from the standard interface that is used elsewhere and that customers are familiar with. Even the left arrow key cannot be used for navigation! The Blue button is supposed to be Delete and Green should toggle between Numeric and Alpha input.

Tell them to confirm to the existing user interface standards both for text editing and navigation!

I think the screen looks a bit ropey too. The navigation tabs just don't look right.

The navigation on the search screen is a little more complex than on others, but to clarify:

Green - used for Page Up (as is elsewhere).

Blue - could have been used for delete; however that relegates the "More Like This" functionality to an option from the (i) button programme info screen, hence the deviation.

Left button deletes characters while the text input field is highlighted (watch the arrow indication - you will see it change when switching highlight from the results area to the input field). Once you have results, left button will let you switch categories to the left unless you use the up button to put highlight back on the text input field or use number keys to change the search term.

jtaylor06 18-06-2010 16:32

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
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That would make more sense wouldn't it?
The yellow button seems to be neglected at times :(

kgollop 18-06-2010 19:29

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35043451)
That would make more sense wouldn't it?
The yellow button seems to be neglected at times :(

Can you add a "Play all" button in for me? :D

jtaylor06 18-06-2010 19:46

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
You just reminded me, i've missed out some info about the blue button :)
The "More like this" would be replaced with "[Blue] Delete" when inside the text box.

A play all button would be very good. Would be nice to make playlists on the fly too, hopefully a feature for Tivo?

Ben B 18-06-2010 23:24

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
As of Thursday I have this delightful new search that confuses me :):(:confused::D

jtaylor06 20-06-2010 20:26

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
You will hopefully get used to it :) It's very helpful!

Ben B 20-06-2010 23:44

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35044378)
You will hopefully get used to it :) It's very helpful!

Yeah, I actually like it now, so good especially the TV guide search :)

kgollop 21-06-2010 09:40

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35044471)
Yeah, I actually like it now, so good especially the TV guide search :)

I think it's great. The wife saw an advert for a show called Accidentally on Purpose. I went in and searched for it, the search found it in the TV guide, let me series link it from there and also found the first two episodes that she missed on catch up :tu:

mr.munky 21-06-2010 11:01

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35043451)
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1...rginsearch.png

That would make more sense wouldn't it?
The yellow button seems to be neglected at times :(

I see where you're coming from but yellow button is for series record on a V+. Nice mockup though. :)

jtaylor06 21-06-2010 14:27

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.munky (Post 35044574)
I see where you're coming from but yellow button is for series record on a V+. Nice mockup though. :)

Good point, I forgot about that :P
Thanks though :)

windy 24-06-2010 21:37

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
So when are we ALL supposed to get :confused::mad::(

1701-e 28-06-2010 11:58

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
It's in Belfast so it must be nearly fully rolled out!

nn012 28-06-2010 12:46

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Available here today as well, but I can only access the new search feature when stopping an on demand program and selecting the new third 'more like this' option. I've also noticed when searching with the new search, for example, The Wire it lists the full 12 episode list while the normal list in the old search and in HBO channel list only shows 8.

Felim_Doyle 28-06-2010 18:11

Re: My 1st thread woop! I'm in trial area for new Tivo style (sort of lol) OD search
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.munky (Post 35043387)
The navigation on the search screen is a little more complex than on others, but to clarify:

Green - used for Page Up (as is elsewhere).

Blue - could have been used for delete; however that relegates the "More Like This" functionality to an option from the (i) button programme info screen, hence the deviation.

Left button deletes characters while the text input field is highlighted (watch the arrow indication - you will see it change when switching highlight from the results area to the input field). Once you have results, left button will let you switch categories to the left unless you use the up button to put highlight back on the text input field or use number keys to change the search term.

When the text input field is highlighted, everything should work as it does elsewhere when editing a text field (e.g. Blue is delete, Left arrow is move left within the text etc.). Then, when you're in the results area Blue and Yellow can take on the appropriate behaviour in that context (More Like This, Series Record etc.) and page up/down is performed by the page up and page down keys. Where is Green Page Up?

The search in BBC iPlayer uses Blue as clear/delete as does set-top-box e-mail which also uses Red to toggle upper/lower case, Green to toggle alpha/number mode, Yellow to access symbols and the arrow keys do what they should: move left, right, up and down. There are several other places where the keys operate like this for editing text and always have done in all of the years that I've had a digital box.

windy 28-06-2010 22:07

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Ive now got the search option now at last.:)..and its really good...so far:D

Felim_Doyle 29-06-2010 07:50

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How'd ya get it fixed Whingey? ;)

It was certainly an odd one and apparently unique to you!

mr.munky 29-06-2010 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35048264)
When the text input field is highlighted, everything should work as it does elsewhere when editing a text field (e.g. Blue is delete, Left arrow is move left within the text etc.). Then, when you're in the results area Blue and Yellow can take on the appropriate behaviour in that context (More Like This, Series Record etc.) and page up/down is performed by the page up and page down keys. Where is Green Page Up?

The search in BBC iPlayer uses Blue as clear/delete as does set-top-box e-mail which also uses Red to toggle upper/lower case, Green to toggle alpha/number mode, Yellow to access symbols and the arrow keys do what they should: move left, right, up and down. There are several other places where the keys operate like this for editing text and always have done in all of the years that I've had a digital box.

Red/Green as PgUp/PgDn are standard elsewhere - TV Guide & other On Demand listings screens, for example. It would be nice to use the actual PgUp/PgDn buttons, I agree, but not all RC units have these. The difficulty is coming up with a standard which works for all boxes and all remotes; given the very large number of possible combinations, in practice this becomes rather difficult. Your focus-sensitive blue button idea sounds rather good, actually - very useful feedback. I'll take that one away, thank you. :)

japitts 30-06-2010 08:03

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Noticed this new search menu yesterday, but there seems to be some teething problems with the catch-up part.

1 - Some BBC programmes (may be others too, but it's these I've noticed) from Sunday/Monday don't seem to be on catch-up. Panorama from Monday for example - I can't see this under A-Z or search.

2 - Search function not finding everything. Take Newsnight. A-Z listing and it finds all the "episodes" you'd expect. Catch-up search and it only finds yesterdays. Not sure if this by accident or design.

I'd also agree it could do with an option at the bottom of the screen to say how many pages of results there are. Page up & down is fine, but "Page x of y" would be good.

I'm in BS37, BTW.

Jon.

Horizon 30-06-2010 20:18

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....agree about the teething problems.

This new search feature has landed in my area so I thought I'd give it a quick spin.

When into it, with the blue "more like this" button at the bottom of the page. There were already four selections of programmes there so I pressed the blue "more like this" button on the Scottish parliament programme hoping to get more of the same. (Not sure why I selected Scottish parliament, perhaps I just wanted to see what those Scots were wasting our taxpayers money on...:) ). I digress.

But instead of getting more Scotch Parliament action, one of the options was Jeremy Kyle!:td:

Now, I know the Scots are a rough bunch but they're not as bad as that total plonker...:LOL:

I've just given it one last try, so I pressed the magic blue button on Homes Under The Hammer, an easy subject to find similar stuff, one would think. This is what I got:

Indian Hill Railways
Animal Park
A Century Of Fatherhood
Crop To Shop
Gardener's World
Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives

At least when I'm bored, I've got a new toy to play with now. I guess Gardener's World is related to stuff about homes, but Parallel Worlds??

paul nolan 01-07-2010 13:23

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does anybody know when this roll out is going to be complete? Still no sign of it in the West of Southampton.

BenMcr 01-07-2010 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paul nolan (Post 35049561)
does anybody know when this roll out is going to be complete? Still no sign of it in the West of Southampton.

Everyone should have it as the rollout has now completed

gadge 01-07-2010 17:31

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Can i just ask a question ben does the search say you type in horror mostly horror films come up or with horror in the title does this depend on your chosen package?,i did ask the chap who i beta test for but he had nothing to do with the testing phase.

BenMcr 01-07-2010 18:07

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I think whatever you type in will search the whole thing. So both Title and Genre

For instance I've just typed in 'Comedy' and it's brought up both things with Comedy in the title and things like 'Frasier'

BikeNutt 02-07-2010 09:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35049699)
I think whatever you type in will search the whole thing. So both Title and Genre

For instance I've just typed in 'Comedy' and it's brought up both things with Comedy in the title and things like 'Frasier'

Isn't that because Frasier is on 'Comedy' Central rather than because of the genre though?

BenMcr 02-07-2010 09:39

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It also brought up from the TV Guide 'Family Guy' which is showing on FX and in Catch up TV 'Mongrels' on BBC HD

gadge 02-07-2010 09:59

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We dont sub to movies but put a search in for batman returns which is on in a while and it didnt come up just golmaal returns which i guess is pay per view.

mr.munky 02-07-2010 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35049971)
We dont sub to movies but put a search in for batman returns which is on in a while and it didnt come up just golmaal returns which i guess is pay per view.

If you're not subscribed to a channel its programmes are knocked out of the searchable list for the tv guide search (at the moment, anyway).

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 12:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.munky (Post 35048596)
Red/Green as PgUp/PgDn are standard elsewhere - TV Guide & other On Demand listings screens, for example. It would be nice to use the actual PgUp/PgDn buttons, I agree, but not all RC units have these. The difficulty is coming up with a standard which works for all boxes and all remotes; given the very large number of possible combinations, in practice this becomes rather difficult. Your focus-sensitive blue button idea sounds rather good, actually - very useful feedback. I'll take that one away, thank you. :)

I appreciate that button functionality has to cater for all RCs out there although I am surprised that there are some (perhaps not that many?) that do not have PgUp/PgDn (how do those people live? :)).

My RC keyboard is one of those remotes and I think it should be supported by the search as it's the very sort of application that the keyboards were intended for. :tu:

The context-sensitivity should not apply only to Blue but to Red, Green and Yellow too (or we'll need more coloured buttons! :rolleyes:).

BikeNutt 02-07-2010 12:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35049962)
It also brought up from the TV Guide 'Family Guy' which is showing on FX and in Catch up TV 'Mongrels' on BBC HD

Ah, that's good.

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35049316)
....agree about the teething problems.

This new search feature has landed in my area so I thought I'd give it a quick spin.

When into it, with the blue "more like this" button at the bottom of the page. There were already four selections of programmes there so I pressed the blue "more like this" button on the Scottish parliament programme hoping to get more of the same. (Not sure why I selected Scottish parliament, perhaps I just wanted to see what those Scots were wasting our taxpayers money on...:) ). I digress.

But instead of getting more Scotch Parliament action, one of the options was Jeremy Kyle!:td:

Now, I know the Scots are a rough bunch but they're not as bad as that total plonker...:LOL:

I've just given it one last try, so I pressed the magic blue button on Homes Under The Hammer, an easy subject to find similar stuff, one would think. This is what I got:

Indian Hill Railways
Animal Park
A Century Of Fatherhood
Crop To Shop
Gardener's World
Parallel Worlds, Parallel Lives

At least when I'm bored, I've got a new toy to play with now. I guess Gardener's World is related to stuff about homes, but Parallel Worlds??

From an episode of King of Queens ...
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spence Olchin
"Oh my God! TiVo thinks I'm gay!"

... it's apparent that the underlying software performs some kind of profiling based on your choice of programming. ;)

Soon you'll be getting seeds and tickets to steam rallies in the post! :shocked:

BenMcr 02-07-2010 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050045)
From an episode of King of Queens ... ... it's apparent that the underlying software performs some kind of profiling based on your choice of programming. ;)

Soon you'll be getting seeds and tickets to steam rallies in the post! :shocked:

This isn't the TiVo software so as far as I'm aware it currently won't build a profile on your viewing habits

joglynne 02-07-2010 13:29

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I like the fact that I can record any program that I find as a result of playing around in the search/TV guide area and that I still have access to the information option.

I know , I know, simple things but they appeal to me. :D

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35050062)
This isn't the TiVo software so as far as I'm aware it currently won't build a profile on your viewing habits

I didn't think it was the TiVo software just yet but it's a sign of things to come. Soon the box will be telling you what to watch and when to eat! :shocked:

---------- Post added at 15:36 ---------- Previous post was at 15:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35050064)
I like the fact that I can record any program that I find as a result of playing around in the search/TV guide area and that I still have access to the information option.

I know , I know, simple things but they appeal to me. :D

Sure a ball o' twine would keep you amused for hours. :D

japitts 05-07-2010 20:46

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It certainly sounds like the search can be quite clever when it wants to be, and I'm impressed with the interface.

But.. I've just searched for "east" - it should pick up any episodes of Eastenders from last Tuesday onwards.. surely?? Nope. Not even Sunday's omnibus. A-Z listing and scroll through, they're all there.

Not right.

zantarous 06-07-2010 00:06

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I noticed it doesn't pick up part of a word, I was trying entour the other night to see if it found entourage and it would not, so probably the same thing for Eastenders and east

japitts 06-07-2010 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35051761)
I noticed it doesn't pick up part of a word, I was trying entour the other night to see if it found entourage and it would not, so probably the same thing for Eastenders and east

Good suggestion well presented, unfortunately no difference. They're all there in A-Z, but searching for "Eastenders", "Eastend", "East" or "Eastender" returns diddly squat.

BenMcr 06-07-2010 14:55

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There are some known listing issues that should be fixed soon.

jtaylor06 06-07-2010 18:18

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Still a great feature though, glad it has been added even though there is a few bugs :)

japitts 08-07-2010 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35051954)
There are some known listing issues that should be fixed soon.

Nice one, thanks for that. I've been playing with it a bit more, and it seems that Catch-Up is the only tab not searching. Everything else is really impressive.

Any ideas on a timescale for these issues to be fixed? I'm just wondering whether we're talking days or weeks..

Thanks

BenMcr 08-07-2010 21:17

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Not sure, but definately not before the World Cup ends as Virgin stop with a lot of TV changes to minimise any possibility of channel loss (no matter how brief)

japitts 12-07-2010 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35053124)
Not sure, but definately not before the World Cup ends as Virgin stop with a lot of TV changes to minimise any possibility of channel loss (no matter how brief)

Thanks. Working in mobile telecoms operations myself, I can totally appreciate a change freeze during "peak" periods, although quite why the new search function was introduced in such a period - is a little lost on me.

I'd be interested to know if these search issues are resolved before the weekend, as I've got a tech visit now booked for this and one other issue Saturday morning. I don't think for one minute it's a box issue, but CS insisted on a home visit to "investigate" this, so if that's what it takes...

Peter_ 12-07-2010 18:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by japitts (Post 35054779)
Thanks. Working in mobile telecoms operations myself, I can totally appreciate a change freeze during "peak" periods, although quite why the new search function was introduced in such a period - is a little lost on me.

I'd be interested to know if these search issues are resolved before the weekend, as I've got a tech visit now booked for this and one other issue Saturday morning. I don't think for one minute it's a box issue, but CS insisted on a home visit to "investigate" this, so if that's what it takes...

With DTV the are only so many scenarios and each one has what is required to fix the issue, and if it advises a engineer visit is required then an engineer visit is what you will get.;)

japitts 08-08-2010 20:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35053124)
Not sure, but definately not before the World Cup ends as Virgin stop with a lot of TV changes to minimise any possibility of channel loss (no matter how brief)

At least a month since the football finished, and the bug is still very much evident..

I really do hope this isn't going to be brushed under the carpet!

Rgds


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