running in safe mode so much quicker
 

As the title really. Web pages and programmes were on a go slow but now I've ran in safe mode with networking everything seems instant. Are there any obvious things to get rid of that might be slowing things down? Things are that quick Im tempted to always surf in safe mode :) I'd do a full format to factory settings but it takes two days for windows updates and drivers to sort themselves out. I cant believe how quick things are now so something must be wrong somewhere

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Safe mode only runs a bare bones system.

It designed to get you out of the brown stuff.

So you can uninstall/disable software that may be causing problems.

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In safe mode Im able to get this, though it maybe just a coincidence :erm:

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Go to start->run type msconfig, have a look on the startup tab and see if anything is set to run at startup that you don't recognise.

Make sure your system is clean of virus's and spyware.

Download and run hijack this, post the log here: http://hjt.networktechs.com/

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Yeah, because you might need to download stuff.

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your only running basic services that's why your system is running quicker ,i think i am right in saying that you won't have any security software running either so be carefull or you won't have an option but to clean install ;)

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also disable any BHOs you dont use

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If you continue the may be tears before bedtime as that is not recommended for long term use, inadvertently clicking the wrong link could cause some very serious issues.:erm:

I could post the Digital Home Support number for you.;)

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Use the logon tab in 'autoruns' to see what you have running at boot time. You can uncheck things you don't need or stuff you don't recognise. If you find it breaks something you need, go back and recheck it. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-gb/s.../bb963902.aspx Direct link to the program - http://download.sysinternals.com/Files/Autoruns.zip

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It really *should not* be quicker. This points to some damage with your Windows installation. Guessing from your comment about the time to download patches, are you using XP? If so, how long since you last did a clean install. If safe mode runs so much faster I'd say you are overdue for a fresh install.

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G,day Speedy, have you tried running the free VM tune up utility, I ran this on the wife's laptop and it did the biz so it might work for you.

I'm not sure how to direct you to it, Masque had a link on one of his informative post,s and I just clicked it and let it run its course.

Funny thing is that's the best test result I've ever seen you post, with very low Ping/Jitter considering its peak time.

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That be the one squire :D

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When you say safe mode, do you mean windows safe mode or internet explorer safe mode.

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Original post says "safe mode with networking", that would suggest windows safe mode

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Yep windows vista safe mode. Thanks for the responses im not ignoring you all im surfin on my phone at work I will post more later

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Im going to attack this when im off work tomorrow but for now, hijack this runs but wont save a log. It advises me to run as admin but theres no option for that when I right click. It did show loads of the things zing mentioned.

With nothing running theres 178 processes in task manager im guessing that isnt good. VMs thing said only problem was optimising bb speed so ive ran that. Thanks again

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also check to make sure you are not running behind a proxy.

Most BHOs can just be disabled and you wont miss what they offered

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It might also be a good idea to run CCleaner http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner (if you haven`t allready) and maybe also go to Tools->Start up and list what the entries or take a screenshot.
I`m sure you have stuff running that isn`t necessary, 178 processes :shocked:

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Got my processes down to 130, attached a screenshot. I ran ccleaner a couple of weeks ago, I might have another crack at it because I was unsure what I was doing!

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Right Im even more keen to sort this now as up to now Ive been unable to stream iplayer in HD with it constantly stuttering but Ive found it works fine in safe mode. I had just put it down to a problem with my line but obviously its not that as safe mode is fine :)

I managed to get hijackthis to save a log and I pasted it like you said but Im confused with what to do next, I dont want to bugger things up. Ive attached the log split in to two parts.

Ive ran ccleaner and the cleaner part removed 610MB of "stuff". I then ran the registry checker part of it and that came up with loads of stuff, again Im unsure if I just tick "fix/remove all"? Ive attached 2 small samples of that result.

If anyone could give me any further advice that would be great :D

edit: oops Ive attached 2 of the same pics for ccleaner

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Wish I could help Speedy but I,m afraid it means sweet FA to me, did you try running the vm tune up utility just out of interest.

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yeah I did thanks mate, it came back as everything fine apart from something to do with optimizing the broadband performance, so I ran that and it doesnt report any problems now. I think it only cleraed some files and altered some number of htp connections or something, I dont know its all gibberish to me :D

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First thing I would say is DO NOT run a reg cleaner unless you understand exactly what you are doing. I do a fair amount of re-install work for people that have just ticked "do it all". IMHO the gains from registry cleaning are negligable in most cases.

I'm a bit concerned by that crawler toolbar. Those sort of BHO things are quite often badly coded and can cause problems. If it's not essential I'd suggest you uninstall it.

On further reading, you're LOADED with all sorts of toolbars. No wonder your browsing is limping along. Time for a major springclean I think.

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Thanks, thats why I thought Id best check first. Ive already managed to bugger up my ethernet drivers so I can now only connect using wireless, tried for weeks uninstalling and reinstalling drivers but it wont have it :(

I'll go delete the crawler one for now then, no idea what to do about all the registry things though, theres pages of the stuff

Is a major spring clean a reinstall of windows? Already done it once or twice this year

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Full re-install? At this point I'd say keep that as Plan B.

I'd remove as much as possible from Internet Explorer, all those toolbars and unnecessary BHO add-ins.

Try deleting your network card from device manager. On restart it should be re-discovered and re-installed. If you get lucky it'll find the right drivers.

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Thanks, Ive gotten rid of some of them and things are definitely better :D Am I best leaving the registry problems then? :confused:

Ive tried removing and reinstalling the network card but it still doesnt work, strange how it always has #2 after it though :confused:

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Honestly I wouldn't bother too much about the registry stuff. Most of that looks like things such as 'unused file extension' which really doesn't matter at all. I'd personally only use a reg. cleaner if you have a situation causing issues. For instance, some programs will not re-install correctly if they see old left-over registry entries. Other than that you'll likely do more harm than good.

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Iv`e just read about a similar problem to yours regarding the network card on another site, maybe give it a try.

First off uninstall your the card form device manager.
Now go to your drivers folder C:\Windows\System32\drivers and see if there is a nvefd.sys there.
If there is is Cut not copy the driver file to the desktop (or somewhere safe)
Now re-boot and the computer should hopefully pick up the network card and use the Microsoft driver.

Good Luck.

p.s. Also check if there is a C:\Nvidia folder still there after install. If there is you may need to move it as it could try picking up the driver from there.

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Thanks matty, I uninstalled it in device manager but when I go to drivers I cant find what you said, Ive attached an image


edit though I have found an nvidia folder, do I delete both the nforce ones?

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No. Those are display (video) drivers. Different beast entirely.

Within the system32 folder there should be another folder called drivers. That's where to look.

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Right, I deleted both the nforce ones and rebooted, went in to device manager and its still listed as #2 this is what I get if I try and connect.


Great Ive deleted the wrong ones then :( Heres my list of drivers..

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Try right clicking on nvm60x32.sys select cut and then paste it to the desktop (you should get a UAC prompt about it). This way if needed you can just drag and drop it back into the system32/drivers folder.

Reboot and see if that helps.

One other thing, if you go into Device Manager and select View->Show Hidden Devices, do any of the Network related ones have a cross, question or exclamation mark next to them?

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Actually it looks like you could be using the Microsoft driver as the date is 2006. You can check by right clicking it in device manager and selecting properties then driver. The driver provider should be listed there.

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No mate they dont but I know the last time I tried to fix this, I did end up with a yellow exclamation next to the #2 which said device unable to start properly. I'll try that driver now thanks


edit: yep it says microsoft 2006, I know it never used to say #2 so I think its something I have messed up, I think it only happened after a fresh install of vista and I tried updating the drivers to the nvidia ones from their website, since then Ive been uninstalling and trying again but to no avail

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Right I deleted what you said, I've now got this....

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Maybe something we could try is setting up a static IP for that network card. First off what type of router do you have? (the address will be 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1 probably) If you need to find out you can run ipconfig /all from a cmd prompt while connected wirelessly and the default gateway IP address is it.

Now go to Control Panel->Network and sharing centre->Click on Change Adapter settings then right on the nvidia adapter and select properties.
Now highlight TCP/IPv4 and select properties.

This is where it becomes tricky. You need to select an IP which is related to your Router and the default gateway is the Router IP address (192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1) if you haven`t changed it.

In the example picture the IP address is 192.168.0.125 and the Gateway (Router) is 192.168.0.1. Yours may need .1.1 depending on the router.

The DNS servers are Virgins.

Click OK and try connecting.

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I'll try that matty but it will be tomorrow now, mrs is taking MY laptop off me lol so Im hitting the ps3, for now Im left with the image attached, once Ive figured out getting the drivers back I'll get back to you :D

Its the d-link provided by VM that Ive got. Thanks :) Though Im pretty sure Ive tried the static IP I dont mind having another go

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Apologies i`m getting a bit ahead of myself...

Try right click the entry now and select Update Driver Software.

---------- Post added at 20:26 ---------- Previous post was at 20:15 ----------

When doing this make sure you are running as administrator. Easiest way is to type "devmgmt.msc" in the search, right click and select "Run as administrator"

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You aint getting ahead Im just lagging behind :p:

Right I ran as admin, now got the attached pic. Im going to have to double check the DNS I cant remember if I put opendns in my router settings, can I leave that as auto? I got a slight reprieve on keeping the laptop on the proviso I clean the fishtank lol women :D

i have noticed theres no #2 listed on the details, do you think I need to try direct from nvidia? Like I say though Im not sure if thats how all this started or if I installed the wrong one, I was 100% which driver/network adaptor to pick

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I'm beginning to suspect a hardware failure on the network card.

Do you by any chance have a spare NIC card available?

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Nope :( I thought the same but it worked before I messed about with stuff, I wont rule it out though. I really need to buy a new cpu for my PC I hate laptops, I damaged the pins on that when I took it out to clean the fan. You wouldnt think I built PC's when I left school, Ive turned in to a technical disaster lately :(

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It's a shame you're so far from Lincolnshire. You need a hands-on PC guy and I desperately need an old boiler serviced..

Such is life...

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Depends how close he is to Oldham.

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It does sound like a failure :(

Possible other option is to download Software Information 4 Windows form http://www.gtopala.com/ (the green Download SIW) which gives comprehensive information on your computer.
Run it and look at the Hardware->Motherboard+Network Adapters and we may be able to try a different driver.

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While doing a bit of poking around today i saw a number of people who had a similar issue to your original one which was solved by stoping the Bonjour DNS service which is downloaded with itunes, etc.

Might be worth a try going to services.msc selecting the service and setting it to Disabled. You shouldn`t need it auto starting anyway!

p.s. Also try drag and droping the nvm60x32 file back to the System32/Drivers folder and see if it lets you install.

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Is that the spiritual home of old boilers?

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Still reading through the other stuff advised but for now Ive attached what info it gave me.. when it says device fails to start if I click check for windows solutions it comes up with a could not load device driver error

Im not that far from you Nikon :D To be honest if i cant fix this myself (with some help lol) then Im just going to have to get a new laptop or even better fix my PC, Ive started getting crc errors when unpacking torrents and I read that could mean the HDD on its way out :erm: As I said I hate laptops :(


edit: right Ive copied the file back into drivers, Ive stopped bonjour, I removed from device manager and reinstalled, Im now back to the 2006 drivers, device shows as working but still no connection :)

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Oh and heres what it had under motherboard...

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Just really throwing things out there now, but if you go to Network Connections right click on the nvidia controller and select Status/Details does it show a Physical Address (MAC) eg 00-0F-EA-XX-XX

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Do you mean this....

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Following a couple of Pm'sI think we can solve all the laptop problems. I'll work out the price and let you know monday.

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wahoo I still need the prices for the stuff we spoke about but with regards to the network adaptor...


matty is a legend,matty is a legend nah nah nah nah hey! :cleader::cleader:


Matty pm'd me with a programme to run to assign my network adaptor a new mac address and its worked! Only thing that bothers me is Ive picked from a dropdown selection of macs and I picked one in the USA, are there any security issues etc with using a mac thats listed to a company round the world? The most I could get down was 17Mb but that may be due to my line. Programme was http://www.technitium.com/tmac/index.html

Matty you should work in I.T :D

big thanks to everybody for the help :)

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Good call Matty.. well done indeed.

:)

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He can join my hall of fame with Seph :D This was all off topic lol
I can try and update my router firmware now which is the reason I needed this fixing

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I don't know why but I suddenly have this old Flanders and Swann song in my head..

"Twas on the monday morning that the gas man came to call.."

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I`m thinking of changing to DD-WRT myself with the D-Link i have, let us know how straightforward it is (if that`s what your doing) and i`ll be tempted to have a bash :D

Glad the new MAC address worked, it may have been fine just to reset the cards original one but hey it`s doing it`s job so let it be ;)

Sorted :tu:

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Yep thats what im doing and if im successful then rest assured it was straightforward :D im trying it tonight so I will let you know how it goes, thanks again

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Erm I had a feeling I might be back :( lol

Putting the firmware on was really easy but my minds gone blank, Ive got a working connection but only getting 1Mb down, can someone see where Im going wrong here please, does this image look right?

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d'oh CM needed a reboot :D If someone can see if my dns settings/router ip etc look ok Id be grateful and I promise to let this thread die lol


oh and matty I reset the network mac to the original one and it works :)

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Champion :tu:

I`m not that familiar with DD-WRT but from the pic everything looks sweet. Personally i change the address of the router to something like 192.168.50.1 (then the LAN IP`s are in the 50.xxx range) don`t know if it makes much difference, plus i sometimes forget :rolleyes:

Hopefully someone with a bit more experience with the firmware can confirm all is fine. What sort of speeds are you getting?

I can see me changing mine very soon now ;)

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Your best of not judging it on my speeds as they are up and down, Im getting 1.6 up and around 25Mb down but that may be my line. The one thing I have noticed is pages are sometimes taking ages to load up, I did read something about that on the wrt thread on here so Im going to look into that and maybe change to the newer firmware paul m mentioned. It was very easy to do I only got stuck because in the guide on here it didnt mention rebooting the cable modem :) Ive since found it did but on page 3 or 4

Not had that much of a chance to see what extra stuff is available with this firmware so Im going to be spending sometime reading on the WRT forum :)