Should we be allowed to wear what we like?
 

Having seen this story in the news yesterday -

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle7116303.ece

And now this one today -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/n...re/8665203.stm

Should ASBO's really be given out for the way people dress?

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i agree with this quote from the times

personally i think the courts have more important issues to worry themselves with than this .
I just think they look stupid ,plus it's easier to give them a wedgie

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Or de-bag them :D

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Clothes Fascism...:rolleyes:

So much for people like my father going to fight for personal freedoms during WW11..and too many shockable folk living in the UK it would appear.

Then there is the Naked Rambler who won't wear clothes at all.;)

Why don't people just laugh AT the idiots..though I guess in this day and age they may well go crying to the PTB that their human rights have been violated.:rolleyes:

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i think there were much worse fashions in the 80's....shoulder pads for one:disturbd:

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when some one pulls out a photo in twenty years time that will be punishment enough :)
my flares and 3 inch platforms still embarrass me .

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Wear the wrong clothes it would appear.:rolleyes:

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the way i read that is that he was given an asbo for threatening ect behaviour after the asbo for wearing those trousers and a hoodie was thrown out which suggests to me that the magistrates thought that wearing extra low trousers was more serious :shrug: have i got it right ?

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World War Eleven? The forum is full of the John Titor's today :p

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its that ruddy Chinese flux capacitor ;) i said buy American :(

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my great great great grandson was in that :D

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Mullets being another..

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shudder...thanks for that stuart... i had managed to put that particular fashion nightmare into the darkest recesses of mind ..oh well back to therapy ;)

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We are showing our ignorance today.Are you telling me you have NEVER seen it written that way?Because I have always seen it written that way..;)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/s...a2047907.shtml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

links found by typing in WW11 to Google search. ;)

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sorry to be pedantic maggie but is WWII not WW11;)

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So because I make a typo my point is not valid?

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didn't say that did i

just showing we are not ignorant

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Its WWII (Roman II for 2), not WW11 :)

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I would have thought wearing your trousers half way down your legs like that would make it harder to run away from the crime scene :erm:

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It's, not its ;)

I think this video demonstrates the hazards of wearing trousers down low rather well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbLYf_tmWYE

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LOL last time I looked we were in the grip of a big brother state where 99% of our lives are governed by labour. JK ;) its 98%


Joking aside, like many people I think these low slung trousers\jeans look rediculous and those that wear them like that are idiots, but its fashion unfortunatly.
Aside from the punks all other styles back when I were a lad were smart. Mods, Skins, Rockers, Casuals et al. But now we have all this grunge, emo, scene types who started wearing low slung which was then followed by the chavs who think it looks cool with their joggers round thier arses. So while as a fashion statement it may be ok I think its one fashion that would be better relegated to the back of the closet. I cant see how someone can have or get an ASBO for the style of clothing they happen to wear.

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Yes we should be able to wear or not wear whatever we want or do not want ;)

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Hey Heero_yuy ! leave the wife out of this ;)

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Any coutnry that has time to worry about how some people dress like fools rather then get on with important thins is a country that is in serious need of help once upon a time we had a thing called a sense of humour to deal with such things but thats far too easy and radical to apply today in the UK.

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A miniskirt on an old guy is not much worse than the hot pants many wear, the Postman and the Bus Driver now get hot pants as part of their uniform, who next, the Police.
Let's all hope and pray that the next fad is not going to be their wives wearing miniskirts as well. :shocked:

Taste, you either have it or you don't.... ;)

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The UK has never been a 'free' country.

In Port Talbot there's a minor local celebrity 'tramp' who claims to be proud of his Scottish roots etc whilst wearing a kilt around the place.

His 'kilt' is actually a pleated skirt but no-one has the heart to tell him.

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Hopefully! :naughty:

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Lol. :D Would a Miniskirt suit you then Derek? OOOOH Suits you sir.

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Just to complete the horror, see attached..

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1st is a fashion victim, and the 2nd is a pervert.

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Agreed.:)

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Agreed Gary, but the question was not about what they had done or alledgedly done.

In this world of PC gone mad equality, I was looking to see what the reaction would be comparing the polar like cases in my original post. One guy that likes to dress like an arse and one that likes to dress as a woman.

That was not a dig by the way.

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Apart from the fashion kids, if you have old blokes, or any blokes dressing in womens/girls clothes out on the street. then there's a good chance he's doing it for sexual kicks.
and his actions if any are what would be objected to if they affect people around him.

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Again, I agree Gary. But, should you be subject to an ASBO for what you wear?

Ignore what the people in my links have or have allegedly done, should you in this day and age be alowed to wear what you like?

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No. but there has to be some exceptions, and they are that it's for a perverted reason. and it affects others.

I'm trying to ignore them, but they are reasons why it can be seen that you can't wear what you like. if it's just 'odd' clothes then there's no problem. but if it's something that is 'objectable' then depending on what the objection is.

depends how far you go with wearing what you like. such as nappies (which is most likely sexual)

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Yes, but is it 'objectionable' just because they look like a twit?

Lets ignore nappies, they would probably not be on show anyway, I hope. ;)

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'objectionable' because the person is a pervert.

They'd be on show. they need to be to see whether you should get an asbo or not :)

what I'm saying is that you can say if it's not clothes then it's actions. or it's the clothes and the actions that can be the reason for the asbo.

you are not likely to get an asbo for wearing a lot of things really unless there's a good reason for it.
such as if you wear a short skirt and keep bending over on purpose :)

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Crap. Someone let Gary back in. :rolleyes:

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Gary, I said to ignore that fact. ;)

We are focussing on wether it is acceptable to wear clothing that may be unusual.

Is it?

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This is supposed to be a free country isn't it?

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/161.jpg

Surely we can deal with low-slung trousers?

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Indeed, so why are ASBO's being bandied about then?

(I agree that the twit with low slung trousers did not get one, it was chucked out)

What is going on with our so called tolerant society?

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I paid the man £20.

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I tried. but I can't think of any other reason why you would get an asbo for wearing unusual clothing :)

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Gary, I think that you are still dwelling on the perverse side of things, which is not where I am aiming this thread.

What if my jeans are deemed too baggy? What if the heel on my boots / shoes are deemed too high for a man?

If, heaven forbid, I was to commit a crime and was up before the beak, is it acceptable for these things to be brought in to it?

Do you see where I am coming from now?

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Give me the name of the man, and I'll up the offer...

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I knew where you were coming from at the start. but you gave 2 examples where one was withdrawn and the other was because he was a pervert. and then ask if you should be allowed to waer what you want and ignore them 2 examples.

So again. there's not much chance of being issued an asbo for wearing the odd and unusual clothes unless you're a pervert and wearing them for sexual kicks :)

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Gary L.

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ORLY?

I never mentioned the alleged offences or the perverse nature perhaps, just the reasons for the ASBO's coming about (or not in the case of the jeans).

It has however stimulated a lively debate though :)

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The first one was for the second
Yes. The Naked Rambler got his 475th mention again :)

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For the love of god. Get over the offences, they are *not* the issue of debate, the clothing is.

/goes to get another cup of tea... a strong one.

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It would have been easier if you didn't mention them then :)

FTR I don't think you should get an asbo for wearing what you want. unless you've been given a good reason previously as to why you can't wear it. be that for being a pervert or anything else.

I have the bottle conveniently at hand.

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I did not bring the offences in to it :confused:

My question was - Should we be allowed to wear what we like? But thanks for your point of view.

/gives up on tea, reaches for whiskey bottle.

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No. your original post never mentioned them.

We should be allowed to wear what we want. depending on if it genuinely affects others in an acceptable bad way.

I'll go to bed then :)

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I know, it was never meant to be the issue.

Thanks for your opinion, at last :)


I think I will do the same...

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white socks with that skirt -ohh come on :shocked:

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Assume nothing.

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lol love it :D

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Has to be a record Gary, your back for five minutes and your already getting under somebodies skin:D
And heres me thinking you might have "mellowed" a tad in your enforced hiatus.

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Maybe I should send you what I want to say in the debate. and then you can word it for me so it's acceptable to yourself? :D

If I mellow anymore than I am, I'd be in a trance :)

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I don't agree with the asbo, but similarly I do think there should be limits, I for one would not want to see Frank in a tutu, Paul M in a naughty nurse outfit and Russ as a naughty nun, however, Pia on the other hand.... (using forum members who have actual pics available so that the visual can be appropriately photosh.... err, imagined)

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If it's culturally acceptable to walk around with your jeans hanging off your knees Mod Edit :whilst constantly touching yourself up like some pervert, I think it is, yes.

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Sorry Maggie ... I didn't realise this was for children too.

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Yep children find their way here seeking help for VM and PC issues from time to time.

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Once upon a time we british used to embrace a thing called eccentricity and used to be quite proud of our array of people who fitted that bill. Personally i believe people should be allowed to dress as they please as long as there is no criminal act being commited and the thought that an asbo can be issued because someone chooses to dress a certain way sends shivers down my spine what next get dragged off to a re-education facility. Come on people this is an issue we should deal with in the old fashioned and much better way of using humour not stupid laws.