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Horace 06-05-2010 16:04

Oil discovered in the Falklands
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10100769.stm
War likely : Just in time for a new Conservative leader (possibly). Maybe history is repeating itself.

That's probably stretching it a bit but it is good news considering the problems we're currently in regarding energy and the economy.

flowrebmit 06-05-2010 18:43

Re: Oil discovered in the Falklands
 
The Falklands do have lots of sheep so at least they have something to mop up any future oil spills.

Hom3r 06-05-2010 18:49

Re: Oil discovered in the Falklands
 
Well the Argies will be ready to roll out the armarda to take the Falklands.

Tuftus 06-05-2010 18:52

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35015340)
Well the Argies will be ready to roll out the armarda to take the Falklands.

Who says we do not need Trident then? ;)

Hom3r 06-05-2010 18:56

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35015346)
Who says we do not need Trident then? ;)

Whatever they [argies] send will be sunk, or shot down so let them try.

Tuftus 06-05-2010 18:58

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35015350)
Whatever they [argies] send will be sunk, or shot down so let them try.

What with?

Are we not, technically, looking the other way at the moment with most of our resources the other side of the globe in much warmer climes?

Chris 06-05-2010 19:13

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35015340)
Well the Argies will be ready to roll out the armarda to take the Falklands.

They don't have one. We sank it last time round. ;)

martyh 06-05-2010 19:29

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the argies will just do this :D

injuneer 06-05-2010 20:10

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They can borrow BP's funnel when it goes wrong.

Kymmy 06-05-2010 21:56

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Well it has happened before ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1273175736

martyh 06-05-2010 21:58

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thats what i was looking for you swine :D

arcamalpha2004 07-05-2010 11:34

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What? Oil discovered in the falklands?
Now there is a surprise ;)

watzizname 08-05-2010 17:32

Re: Oil discovered in the Falklands
 
I thought it was discovered in the 70's?

I remember being informed years ago that the then prime minister had a nuclear submarine routinely patroling the area, because of the oil..

Tezcatlipoca 08-05-2010 17:52

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35015346)
Who says we do not need Trident then? ;)

Yeah, 'cos Polaris really deterred them last time, didn't it? ;)


Nukes aren't meant to be a deterrent against conventional attack. They're meant to be a deterrent against nuclear attack.

Chris 08-05-2010 17:55

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Originally Posted by watzizname (Post 35017070)
I thought it was discovered in the 70's?

I remember being informed years ago that the then prime minister had a nuclear submarine routinely patroling the area, because of the oil..

That would be a nuclear powered submarine. A different animal entirely.

idi banashapan 08-05-2010 18:05

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35017083)
That would be a nuclear powered submarine. A different animal entirely.

lol

Tuftus 08-05-2010 22:31

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35017081)
Yeah, 'cos Polaris really deterred them last time, didn't it? ;)


Nukes aren't meant to be a deterrent against conventional attack. They're meant to be a deterrent against nuclear attack.

So, with most of our troops already deployed elsewhere and quite knackered when they get home from tour, not to mention having to go to Millets / Silvermans to replace thier worn out kit.

What else have we got Matt?

Maybe some harsh words will make do ;)

Tezcatlipoca 09-05-2010 02:08

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35017272)
So, with most of our troops already deployed elsewhere and quite knackered when they get home from tour, not to mention having to go to Millets / Silvermans to replace thier worn out kit.

What else have we got Matt?

Maybe some harsh words will make do ;)


I'm not sure I get your point.

"What else have we got"? What? So if they did decide to attack the Falklands to claim the oil, we would have to nuke them?! :confused:


You said "Who says we do not need Trident then? ;)" which I took to mean you consider one need for it to be deterring or defending an Argentinian attack, given the subject of the thread.

I replied with "Yeah, 'cos Polaris really deterred them last time, didn't it? ;", given that when the Falklands War took place in 1982, the fact that the UK possessed a sub-based Nuclear Deterrent in the form of Polaris (the predecessor to Trident) did not stop or deter the Argentinians at all...

So why would Trident deter them if they considered attacking again?

And if they did attack, how would Trident stop them?

Nuclear Weapons are not a deterrent to attack with Conventional Weapons, and are not used in retaliation to, or defence against, an attack with Conventional Weapons. Nuclear Weapons are used as a deterrent against someone else's Nuclear Weapons, and as a retaliation against someone else's Nuclear Weapons if actually used.

I'm not saying we should have no nukes. What I am questioning though is your comment which to me implied that our nuclear deterrent somehow has relevance to deterring or defending against any kind of conventional weapon attack by Argentina.

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Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35017088)
lol

Come on, the only facepalm image worth using anymore is this one! ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/av...ine=1272493898

Tuftus 09-05-2010 02:21

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Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35017390)
I'm not sure I get your point.

"What else have we got"? What? So if they did decide to attack the Falklands to claim the oil, we would have to nuke them?! :confused:


You said "Who says we do not need Trident then? ;)" which I took to mean you consider one need for it to be deterring or defending an Argentinian attack, given the subject of the thread.

I replied with "Yeah, 'cos Polaris really deterred them last time, didn't it? ;", given that when the Falklands War took place in 1982, the fact that the UK possessed a sub-based Nuclear Deterrent in the form of Polaris (the predecessor to Trident) did not stop or deter the Argentinians at all...

So why would Trident deter them if they considered attacking again?

And if they did attack, how would Trident stop them?

Nuclear Weapons are not a deterrent to attack with Conventional Weapons, and are not used in retaliation to, or defence against, an attack with Conventional Weapons. Nuclear Weapons are used as a deterrent against someone else's Nuclear Weapons, and as a retaliation against someone else's Nuclear Weapons if actually used.

I'm not saying we should have no nukes. What I am questioning though is your comment which to me implied that our nuclear deterrent somehow has relevance to deterring or defending against any kind of conventional weapon attack by Argentina.[COLOR="Silver"]

I guess the point I was trying to make was that most of our troops are overseas already, in warmer climes.

Leading to, the question - What else have we got?

I know what you are saying about nukes as a deterrant etc, I guess my initial response was maybe political, however, if it does come to it down there where are we?

Thousands of miles away with an ageing fleet and few troops to deploy that are battle ready. My guess is that in this economic climate we would just sell the Falklanders out.

watzizname 09-05-2010 02:54

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35017083)
That would be a nuclear powered submarine. A different animal entirely.

Nah, i'm pretty sure it was a submarine..

the_neurotic_cat 11-05-2010 09:43

Re: Oil discovered in the Falklands
 
I think the Argies will take a political and legal approach being as all they have now is peashooters and harsh language.

They're going to try and argue that the falklands are a colony of the uk and have no right to be there under the decolonization treaties of the UN.

What gets me though is that Argentina exists because of colonisation. Only about 1% of the Argentinian population is of indigenous ancestry and the rest are of European lineage that speak a European language. Surely arguing for decolonisation is arguing for their own demise.


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