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martyh 05-05-2010 12:59

would you let your kids play here ?
 
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what do people think of this then ,just watched this on my local news and couldn't believe my eyes ,some one wants sacking over this £70,000 waste of money

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/7...mbs.6270480.jp


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"The design of the park was the result of extensive public consultation, with the local community and councillors asked to give their views at a number of events on the layout of the park and what kind of equipment they would like to see installed.

"This design also includes a CCTV camera being installed to help maintain a safe and secure playing environment."


yeah right ,i hope the park has resident paramedics

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1273064275

Graham M 05-05-2010 13:06

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One word, "CRACK"

martyh 05-05-2010 13:07

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Originally Posted by Graham M (Post 35014532)
One word, "CRACK"

the other half was wincing just watching the report

Xaccers 05-05-2010 13:10

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They should have looked at Cambridge, I drove past some awesome looking playparks last month.

Ignitionnet 05-05-2010 13:11

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Have to love how the installation of a CCTV camera is supposed to be a redeeming feature.

I remember playing on something like that as a child. It was a building site we'd snuck into.

martyh 05-05-2010 13:12

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35014537)
Have to love how the installation of a CCTV camera is supposed to be a redeeming feature.

I remember playing on something like that as a child. It was a building site we'd snuck into.

funny enough that's exactly what the other half said

Jimmy-J 05-05-2010 13:36

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That's not a play area, it's a death-trap! Who's pocketed the other £69,500? It's not even fenced off.

Cowboys.

superbiatch 05-05-2010 14:01

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These are the ones we have located in my area http://www.timberplay.com/casestudies.asp

The parks are such good fun, the dog gets more walks than ever before :D

v0id 05-05-2010 14:01

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Everyone knows 'play' parks are just for the teenage crowd to hang around participating in underage drinking anyway

martyh 05-05-2010 14:06

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35014554)
Everyone knows 'play' parks are just for the teenage crowd to hang around participating in underage drinking anyway

that would explain the concrete then ...something to open the bottles with :erm:

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Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 35014553)
These are the ones we have located in my area http://www.timberplay.com/casestudies.asp

The parks are such good fun, the dog gets more walks than ever before :D


now they're play parks ,makes want to be 7 again :)

superbiatch 05-05-2010 14:08

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35014554)
Everyone knows 'play' parks are just for the teenage crowd to hang around participating in underage drinking anyway

I understand where you're coming from, but thats not exactly the case near to where I live. They are used by kids and adults alike (during daylight hours) - even families take picnics, although i'm sure they have their fair share of drunken teenagers on Friday nights too :rolleyes:

Tuftus 05-05-2010 14:51

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I would expect sales of bubble wrap to go up around those parts then...

martyh 05-05-2010 14:58

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35014588)
I would expect sales of bubble wrap to go up around those parts then...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/175.jpg

might work:)

Taf 05-05-2010 15:33

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35014593)

Forgot the mouth area ;)

RizzyKing 05-05-2010 17:03

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No win no fee solicitors in that area must be rubbing their hands with glee what a completely ridiculous thing to do and makes me even more mad as last weekend my cousin got married and wasn't allowed by health and safety nazis to have a bouncy castle. What a joke but hey it's ok our council tax pays for it so not like it's real money for the council is it :rolleyes:. Widespread consultation yeah i bet do they have many psychiatric hospitals and schools for the blind there totally stupid but what we have come to expect these days isn't it.

Flyboy 06-05-2010 14:47

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I wonder if this is really the whole story. So far we have only seen photographs from one angle. I'll bet that there is a proper park behind the photographer, or even a climbing frame of some description.

martyh 06-05-2010 15:31

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35015272)
I wonder if this is really the whole story. So far we have only seen photographs from one angle. I'll bet that there is a proper park behind the photographer, or even a climbing frame of some description.

no there isn't that's it every thing is concrete blocks

Hugh 06-05-2010 15:51

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BBC
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Mrs Gray added that there were traditional play parks nearby. At the request of the community, swings and slides had previously been removed from the site due to repeated vandalism.

The council has said that the design was in line with national guidelines set by Play England.

The park is one of 28 sites being developed in Sunderland as part of a £4.2m investment. Each facility has been uniquely designed.

Dai 06-05-2010 15:51

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And some councillor's brother-in-law who's copped a nice little earner as a consultant.. That's where the money goes.

RizzyKing 06-05-2010 15:56

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That monstrosity could have been put up by a few parents in a few hours for a hell of a lot less then the council paid for it and having asked a few people that have looked at that photo none of them would allow their kids near the place. To think they removed all the slides and roundabouts in the park over the road that kids used to love because they were not upto so called safety standards and yet that thing can be built. We really are upside down in this country where too often idiots manage to get into positions of power and able to make decisions that should never get made.

Flyboy 06-05-2010 16:29

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35015289)
no there isn't that's it every thing is concrete blocks

Really?

http://www.anorak.co.uk/247411/media...aedo-park.html

Apart from the rather macabre headstones, there is a perfectly functional climbing frame and sandpit.

martyh 06-05-2010 16:43

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35015324)
Really?

http://www.anorak.co.uk/247411/media...aedo-park.html

Apart from the rather macabre headstones, there is a perfectly functional climbing frame and sandpit.

are you drunk?

thats not diamond hall pocket park that is just a random picture of a park

you realy should look at things first ...oh and nice site by the way :rolleyes:

martyh 06-05-2010 16:50

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this is what the site looked like before the council spent £70,000 on it ...a big improvement?


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/167.jpg

there's a better view for you Flyboy

Flyboy 06-05-2010 20:54

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35015336)
are you drunk?

thats not diamond hall pocket park that is just a random picture of a park

you realy should look at things first ...oh and nice site by the way :rolleyes:

Well, they were pictures included in an article about Diamond Hall Pocket Park, the title certainly suggests that they are pictures of the park. Never having been to Sunderland, what else was I supposed to deduce.

martyh 06-05-2010 20:58

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if you scroll through the pictures i think it becomes obvious ...with all the headstones and such ;)

i'm still trying to work out what headstones are doing in a park ,maybe sunderland council designed it :D

Gary L 08-05-2010 19:58

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I expect the camera's are for getting the ambulances their sooner for the broken shins and skulls.

somebody clearly hates kids.

the_neurotic_cat 11-05-2010 07:48

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I wonder if the council could be put on that list of people that are a danger to children hmm

Stuart 11-05-2010 09:59

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35015299)
BBC
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Mrs Gray added that there were traditional play parks nearby. At the request of the community, swings and slides had previously been removed from the site due to repeated vandalism.

The council has said that the design was in line with national guidelines set by Play England.

The park is one of 28 sites being developed in Sunderland as part of a £4.2m investment. Each facility has been uniquely designed.

The same guidelines that mean my local council has spent a small fortune putting safety mats everywhere a child might fall in the playground? Not that I am complaining about the mats, but placing multiple random concrete blocks in various positions and calling it a feature of a play park hardly matches up with the idea of safety.

After all, how are kids gonna play on them? Climb on them, jump around, leap off. Inevitably, some are going to fall (several feet in some cases) and what are they going to hit? Probably more concrete.

Of course, it could just be that the builder laid the concrete then buggered off before it was finished. You know the sort of thing. "Oh, sorry, the swings are coming from Leytonstone. They'll be in next Tuesday, so I'll come and fit 'em then.", but next Tuesday never arrives.

Tuftus 11-05-2010 11:27

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And so it begins...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/8673916.stm

Gary L 11-05-2010 14:07

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Originally Posted by Tuftus (Post 35019012)
And so it begins...

It had to happen. and as long as they leave them there, there's going to be a lot more blood spilt.

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He said health and safety officers had been out to the site in response to public concerns and had reported that all guidelines were being followed.
Pathetic.

RizzyKing 11-05-2010 14:16

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Is it just me or is health and safety in this country a complete joke as i said my cousin wasn't allowed to have a bouncy castle for the kids to play on at his wedding reception but it's perfectly ok to have numerous concrete blocks in a kids playground. Are they for real or do they make these stupid decisions and then go back to the canteen and have a laugh at us all having to abide by their stupid actions.

Gary L 11-05-2010 14:20

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35019108)
Is it just me or is health and safety in this country a complete joke as i said my cousin wasn't allowed to have a bouncy castle for the kids to play on at his wedding reception but it's perfectly ok to have numerous concrete blocks in a kids playground. Are they for real or do they make these stupid decisions and then go back to the canteen and have a laugh at us all having to abide by their stupid actions.

If you were to set up an exact replica of what they've done in your back garden it wouldn't pass as safe.

it's as if they're trying to pass it off as 'safe' to save money or not having to have a proper park.

Acidphire21 11-05-2010 14:23

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i drive past it when i go to a mates it just looks like a carpark sank in the mud

beeman 12-05-2010 06:47

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 35019108)
Is it just me or is health and safety in this country a complete joke as i said my cousin wasn't allowed to have a bouncy castle for the kids to play on at his wedding reception but it's perfectly ok to have numerous concrete blocks in a kids playground. Are they for real or do they make these stupid decisions and then go back to the canteen and have a laugh at us all having to abide by their stupid actions.

There is no h&s directive banning bouncy castles (as long as theres a big enough space with ample room for the guide ropes to bee fasten securely). most likely the venue simply didn't want a bouncy castle on their property and so (like may do) invoked h&s to close down the argument.

The only reason i could actually think of is the venue's insurance didn't cover a bc. however thats not a big issue as you can buy your own policy for the bc (costs a couple of quidd).

RizzyKing 12-05-2010 08:11

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Nope the pub usually has a bouncy castle in the summer months but this year they have been told by the HSE that they are not allowed the letter was shown to my family specifically to disprove the very thing you have said.

zing_deleted 12-05-2010 08:25

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when I was a kid we used to play on an old derelict industrial site far more dangerous than that. We even climbed trees and fences and only on very rare occasions someone hurt themselves. I do not think there is enough cotton wool to go around to wrap up everyone's kids is there?

cuggle 12-05-2010 08:57

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What a complete waste of money, what's wrong with a tradtional park for kids to play in? or am i just too old now :confused:

RizzyKing 12-05-2010 10:05

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Zing i think most of us played in areas when we were young that were a lot more dangerous then this park but the fact is public money was never used on those places and has been on this. Thats what annoys me most about this you could have got a lot more traditional playground stuff for the same amount of money and probably less then wasting it on some artsy rubbish nothing to do with wrapping kids up in cotton wool.

Flyboy 12-05-2010 10:35

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What is making me laugh, really out loud, is that we constantly hear screams from people, including many on here, about "'elf 'n' saferty, gawn mad," but when a council throws caution to the wind, it's, "won't somebody perlease fink of der chidren."

RizzyKing 12-05-2010 14:01

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Nice to see you read all the posts as usual the main point that has people angry on this is that public money was used to build this monstrosity and supposedly in the name of a kids playground. But then money being thrown about was never a bad thing under labour was it thank god they are now gone and some sanity can start to come back.

martyh 20-05-2010 18:10

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UPDATE

hold on to your hats this will make cry ,

The park is being demolished after safety concerns were highlited ...no surprise there then

now for the good bit ,

the council have had to fence off the park whilst workers dig up the pathways because they are made of ...crushed glass

The best bit is that the pathways were layed AFTER the concrete was removed

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But, just as Sunderland City Council began removing concrete plinths as part of a rethink at the site, the glass path was laid.

Parents then contacted the Echo to say they had cut themselves on sharp pieces of the glass, while our reporters collected piles of the jagged material, strewn across the park
link

honestly you couldn't make it up

Hom3r 20-05-2010 20:02

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I saw this on the one show IIRC today

Flyboy 20-05-2010 20:47

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35025286)
UPDATE

hold on to your hats this will make cry ,

The park is being demolished after safety concerns were highlited ...no surprise there then

now for the good bit ,

the council have had to fence off the park whilst workers dig up the pathways because they are made of ...crushed glass

The best bit is that the pathways were layed AFTER the concrete was removed



link

honestly you couldn't make it up

So, now the residents are complaining that the site has been fenced off? But they didn't like in the first place. If the reporting of this story is accurate, someone at Sunderland City Council needs to go for "re-training."

martyh 20-05-2010 20:51

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35025368)
So, now the residents are complaining that the site has been fenced off? But they didn't like in the first place. If the reporting of this story is accurate, someone at Sunderland City Council needs to go for "re-training."


[sigh]
no flyboy the residents are complaining because after the council removed the concrete blocks they so kindly placed in the park (and i use that term very losely)they proceeded to lay new paths made out of crushed glass

you are however right about the sunderland council official needing retraining

Gary L 21-05-2010 07:09

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I wonder if it's just the one person making all the decisions that hates kids. or if it's all of them.

RizzyKing 21-05-2010 10:05

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We can only hope that this sort of stupidity is now a thing of the past and that common sense will start to work it's way back into council departments because it went on holiday for a long time. You can go all over the UK and see completely reckless spending by councils who at the same time have been ramping up people's council tax to pay for extravagent useless rubbish like this park.

Chrysalis 22-05-2010 07:16

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35014554)
Everyone knows 'play' parks are just for the teenage crowd to hang around participating in underage drinking anyway

indeed, hence the cctv.


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