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Maggy 02-05-2010 16:30

In pictures: American's largest free health clinic
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8653700.stm

In the Land of the Free...A country that considers itself civilised.

I'm never moaning about the NHS again.

Chris 02-05-2010 16:52

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Flippin' nora. I can't believe Faux News had the nerve to hold up our NHS as an example of how horribly wrong US Healthcare would go if the Obama reforms got through. US healthcare is already a wreck, if you're one of those set free from employment by the recession.

Still, it's their democratic right to choose to have no health insurance, right? :rolleyes:

Osem 02-05-2010 16:57

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You're forgetting that the likes of Stephen Hawking wouldn't have survived if he'd been forced to suffer the NHS... :rolleyes:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ing-paul-rowen

RizzyKing 02-05-2010 18:42

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For all it's faults and yes there are many the nhs is a lot more preferable then most systems in the developed world and still has some of the most caring and dedicated frontline staff anywhere in the world i am thankful most of the time for how i am treated by the nhs and wouldn't swap it or anyone in it for elsewhere.

martyh 02-05-2010 19:20

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i suppose it's better than nothing ,but if it's going to heralded as an achievement for the biggest ,richest and most technically advance country in the world then i'm glad i live in little old backward England

Damien 02-05-2010 19:33

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Well, at least they still have their freedoms! It may be bad but, hell, anything else would be socialist wouldn't it?

Xaccers 02-05-2010 19:45

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Free dental and eye care? Can we have some of that?

martyh 02-05-2010 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35012581)
Free dental and eye care? Can we have some of that?


i thought we did ..for the unemployed anyway

cimt 02-05-2010 20:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35012582)
i thought we did ..for the unemployed anyway

I had to pay £100 for an eyetest and glasses at Vision Express.

Dai 02-05-2010 22:09

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 35012633)
I had to pay £100 for an eyetest and glasses at Vision Express.

Got mine at Poundstretcher.. just need them to start doing teeth now.

;)

dilli-theclaw 02-05-2010 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35012582)
i thought we did ..for the unemployed anyway

Well I get free eye tests, but I have to pay for my glasses.

Maggy 03-05-2010 01:16

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My husband get's free eye tests because his mother has glaucoma.:erm:

papa smurf 03-05-2010 11:05

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my new crown is costing £150- on the NHS shudder to think what it would cost private ,i get it fitted next Tuesday ,and that means the guys at work can stop calling me shane mcgowan ;)

Hugh 03-05-2010 14:10

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I got one done a couple of months ago - £365.....

Chris 03-05-2010 20:00

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35012835)
My husband get's free eye tests because his mother has glaucoma.:erm:

I get free eye tests because I live in Scotland ... :spin:

Maggy 03-05-2010 20:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35013325)
I get free eye tests because I live in Scotland ... :spin:

So would my husband if he still lived in Wales..

martyh 03-05-2010 20:07

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seems only us brits are getting stiffed then

Chris 03-05-2010 20:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35013337)
seems only us brits are getting stiffed then

Err ... no ... the 8 million or so Brits who live in Wales and Scotland are not getting stiffed. Only the ones who live in England. ;)

martyh 03-05-2010 20:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35013339)
Err ... no ... the 8 million or so Brits who live in Wales and Scotland are not getting stiffed. Only the ones who live in England. ;)

ah ,i stand corrected :)...us english getting stiffed

zing_deleted 03-05-2010 20:21

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anyone who does not like the NHS and can afford private health insurance should have it. Then perhaps those of us who can not afford it might get better treatment and the strain could be lowered somewhat

martyh 03-05-2010 20:24

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 35013353)
anyone who does not like the NHS and can afford private health insurance should have it. Then perhaps those of us who can not afford it might get better treatment and the strain could be lowered somewhat

something i have advocated for years but unfortunately we haven't had a gov with the guts to address that particular issue

Maggy 03-05-2010 20:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35013353)
anyone who does not like the NHS and can afford private health insurance should have it. Then perhaps those of us who can not afford it might get better treatment and the strain could be lowered somewhat

Just as long as we don't adopt the US way of doing things I've no objections.Unfortunately like the US Health insurance schemes there are certain health conditions that are not always covered by private health insurance in the UK.

Flyboy 03-05-2010 22:29

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As a diabetic, I get fee eye tests and free prescriptions. If I moved to the US I wouldn't survive.

papa smurf 03-05-2010 22:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013537)
As a diabetic, I get fee eye tests and free prescriptions. If I moved to the US I wouldn't survive.

:disturbd:

would getting a job and health insurance be out of the question.

Flyboy 03-05-2010 22:35

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Getting a job is not the issue. I wouldn't get the insurance in the first place.

Maggy 04-05-2010 00:46

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Quite a lot of health insurance in the US(and in the UK) specifically rule out certain pre-existing conditions at the time of applying for the health insurance.

Insurance is one of the biggest scams as they can pretty much slant it in their favour pretty much all of the time.You have to really read the fine print carefully with a magnifying glass

frogstamper 04-05-2010 00:50

Re: In pictures: American's largest free health clinic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35013353)
anyone who does not like the NHS and can afford private health insurance should have it. Then perhaps those of us who can not afford it might get better treatment and the strain could be lowered somewhat

I seem to remember Thatcher saying something similar many moons ago, the problem as I see it is that in theory its a good idea, but practically it would certainly lead to a two tier health service.
As more and more "well off" people left the NHS how long would it be before those not benefiting from it got a louder and louder voice politically, complaining of the amount of tax going into a health service they didn't use?
Thats not to mention all the doctors and nurses who where trained on the NHS at taxpayers expense, now having a far larger job market to choose from, consequently forcing wages ever higher.
Within fifty years the NHS would be finished, slowly becoming the poorer cousin to the private sector, IMO the only way a system like ours can work is if its for every citizen in the country irrespective of ability to pay, that way each and everyone of us has a vested interest in seeing the NHS prosper.


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