Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011664)

How would he have had to have worded it to target a racial or religious group?
I can't see anyway that you can. so there's no stopping anyone from writing the exact same things again and only being charged a cleaning bill.


Islam will dominate the world (should this have said Britain?)
Osama is on his way (I assume Britain)
Kill Gordon Brown (he lives in Britain)

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011657)

"Islam will dominate the world"
over our dead bodies matey.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011657)

The CPS are cowards. it's not racial because Islam is not a race. and it's not religious because Islam isn't a religion it's a set of rules.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011657)

it'll be a religion any other time. just not today in court.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011673)

I think that's the general idea Gary - if we are to believe all the anti muslim hysteria.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011681)

I forgot that it's not true. and that they have no intention of killing anybody, and never have.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011683)

Well, at least now you've remembered.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011684)

Do you think we should have gone with anti-terror instead of the hate one? we could have got a conviction instead of a cleaning bill.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011684)

Do you think we should have gone with anti-terror instead of the hate one? we could have got a conviction instead of a cleaning bill.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011691)

how would you propose that it would fall under anti-terror laws?

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35011694)

Mr A - don't get dragged down into the maelstrom of illogicallity and perverse reasoning that is the "World of Gary Lâ„¢".....

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011701)

I don't know. if they can manage it with a man and a camera. I'm sure it could work with a Muslim and a spray can writing Islam will dominate the world.
Osama is on his way, and Kill Gordon Brown on a war memorial?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011703)

I'll ask again, share with us how you are "sure it could work" if he were / had he been charged under anti-terror laws.

On what premise and using which particular elements of that legislation Gary?

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011657)

"Islam will dominate the world"
over our dead bodies matey.


The CPS are cowards. it's not racial because Islam is not a race. and it's not religious because Islam isn't a religion it's a set of rules.


it'll be a religion any other time. just not today in court.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011712)

I can read very well thank you Gary, that is why I am querying your obviously contradictory and nonsensical assertions.

I asked you how it could be prosecuted under anti-terror laws and you stated that you didn't know.

So, your position now is that you "don't know" how it could fall under anti-terror legislation

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011717)

Correct.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011717)

That's another thread. but it's interesting that you ask in this thread. do you see a connection in the way that he did this in protest to that?

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011712)

"I don't know. if they can manage it with a man and a camera. I'm sure it could work with a Muslim and a spray can writing Islam will dominate the world.
Osama is on his way, and Kill Gordon Brown on a war memorial?"

I can read very well thank you Gary, that is why I am querying your obviously contradictory and nonsensical assertions.

I asked you how it could be prosecuted under anti-terror laws and you stated that you didn't know.

So, your position now is that you "don't know" how it could fall under anti-terror legislation (the CPS certainly didn't think so) yet, at the same time, you are "sure it could work" (whereas the CPSA, again, didn't).

What is your opinion on the "thousands of Muslims who are being killed and butchered as a result of British foreign policy" as referenced by Abbas?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011721)

I think what GaryL is saying....

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011720)

OK, so you've realised the futility of your earlier position and withdrawn your earlier assertion that you were "sure it could work". Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011721)

I think what GaryL is saying is if the cps/police can use the anti- terror laws to justify arresting and prosecuting people taking photo's of government buildings,shopping malls ect then it isn't beyond reason to ask them to use the same laws to arrest and prosecute someone for what is quite clearly an attack on the govenment of this land and i for one feel this should be taken more seriously by the authorities because it is small ,relatively harmless acts like this that are the mark of a real terrorist just starting out in their career

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011726)

I think you focus too much on something that people say in passing.

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011726)

So you think it's a political protest then? why didn't you say so :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011729)

If I get around to thinking it was a political protest I'll let you know in my own good time thanks.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011725)

Attempts at interpretaion of Gary L's posts in ones capacity as a third party to same is not advisable. I refer you to the earlier post by Foreverwar. :)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011732)

well either way that's how i see it ,this bloke needs keeping an eye on and if he feels so strongly about the thousands of muslims dyeing then why doesn't he bugger of and give them a hand instead of defacing a memorial to real soldiers who (ironically)died to give him the right to voice anti British opinions

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011731)

Ok. when you've had a think about it. the thread's here.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011732)

well either way that's how i see it ,this bloke needs keeping an eye on and if he feels so strongly about the thousands of muslims dyeing then why doesn't he bugger of and give them a hand instead of defacing a memorial to real soldiers who (ironically)died to give him the right to voice anti British opinions

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011737)

Gary, I would again draw your attention to the content of the article wherein it states that Mr Shah "refused to give an explanation for his actions".

As such, and without same, one cannot reasonably arrive at an opinion as to what the basis of his motivation was. Attempts to do so will only evidence a fundamental lack of understanding in relation to facts, reason, logic, consistencty and rationale.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011737)

Gary, I would again draw your attention to the content of the article wherein it states that Mr Shah "refused to give an explanation for his actions".

As such, and without same, one cannot reasonably arrive at an opinion as to what the basis of his motivation was. Attempts to do so will only evidence a fundamental lack of understanding in relation to facts, reason, logic, consistencty and rationale.

It's the equivalent of trying to predict the future.

Oh, hold on there......

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35011740)

Rubbish. you can form an opinion on anything and everything. you don't need to hear the explanation beforehand from the person or persons. :)

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011737)

Gary, I would again draw your attention to the content of the article wherein it states that Mr Shah "refused to give an explanation for his actions".

As such, and without same, one cannot reasonably arrive at an opinion as to what the basis of his motivation was. Attempts to do so will only evidence a fundamental lack of understanding in relation to facts, reason, logic, consistencty and rationale.

It's the equivalent of trying to predict the future.

Oh, hold on there......

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Perfect example of flawed logic.

Someone unhappy about and offended by someone expressing anti british sentiments attempts to undermine the argument by suggesting that the individual concerned, rather than limiting their activities to vandalism, should swan off to a conflict and attempt to kill british soldiers in an attempt to validate their argument.

You see what you did there? You obviously haven't really though that one out.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35011757)

But the BNP's membership policy didn't target a particular group. So, if you target more than one group you are ok?

If X attacks Y and they are different races, as long as X doesn't volunteer an explanation, it is not classed as racist?

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011750)

and you are obviously having a bit a trouble understanding peoples posts ,i'll try to be clearer

if this bloke feels so strongly about muslims being killed then he should go and support them in a meaningful way like fighting with them in the cause that they feel is worth dieing for ,this would show a bit of character instead of the cowadice he shows now

there's nothing flawed about that logic

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011845)

Thank you for the clarity - it confirms, and simply reiterates, exactly what I thought you said initially ie. that you'd rather he were off killing british soldiers in Afghanistan than offending their (and your) sensibilities by painting slogans on war memorials.

As I said earlier, it's a flawed logic.

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 35011673)

... (and one has to wonder how the police came to have his dna before the offence was committed) ...

Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 35011917)

Interesting point.

I wonder if anyone on the forum thinks this use of DNA evidence was a violation of the man's human rights?

Originally Posted by TheNorm (Post 35011917)

Interesting point.

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35011694)

Mr A - don't get dragged down into the maelstrom of illogicallity and perverse reasoning that is the "World of Gary Lâ„¢".....

Here's a Venn Diagram that might help explain things.

You might get out, but you'll never be the same again....:D

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35011659)

as distasefull as it is ,i rather think some EDL or NF members will want to have a little chat with this bloke

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35014863)

May well happen considering his full address appears on page 2 of the Google search re this story, guess he'll need police protection with the public'll end up footing the bill and I am betting that plays right into Tohsser Shah's agenda.