Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 35006098)

And the moron that did this is sentenced to "3 years" - and we all know what that really means.

Another one that should be dropped off the ferry mid-channel..

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35006097)

Wow talk about over reaction.:shocked:

However I cannot remember ever hearing or knowing of any Primary school that used the cane especially in the 90s.

Mind my first head teacher was a progressive.She would not allow corporal punishment in her school(secondary) during the 70s.So I've never at any time had corporal punishment used on any student I taught.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35006099)

if the teacher did do this a mere 20 years ago then I believe this type of punishement was already outlawed and he was guilty of assault originally

The guy would have only been 6 at the time... Part of me thinks the teacher deserved it as he must have been a bully

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35006120)

Caning was banned for state schools in 1987 except for private schools which was then brought in in 1999(England,Wales) 2000(Scotland) 2003 (Northern Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...United_Kingdom

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35006120)

Caning was banned for state schools in 1987 except for private schools which was then brought in in 1999(England,Wales) 2000(Scotland) 2003 (Northern Ireland)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_...United_Kingdom

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35006123)

still caning a 6 year old was never right imo. This obviously had a long reaching effect on this guy as he tore this guy a new one for it.

As I say I have grudges date back a lot longer due to how I was treated by people and how they ruined my childhood. Ok they aint teachers in the main but its still possibly a similar thing.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35006125)

Well when I was in school I was bullied, but the school did SFA as the school said "It doesn't happen here".

One time, one of these thug decided to punch me in the back of the head, which caused me to yell, I got told off for making a noise. I walked out of the class after the teacher refused to believe me. another time they stole my bag, which I found walking home my gym shorts had been burnt, and I cannot print was scribbeded in my text books, again the school did SFA as there was no proof who did it.

If I was to take out my revenge now there would be about 6 teachers and 5 bullies sucking there food through a tube.

But when I left school I went fuff em and never looked back.

Many years later I joined Friend Reunited, when I was sent a PM my one of the bullies (not one of the nasty ones) who appologied for his actions.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35006133)

To be honest zing I was NEVER caned myself when at school but I think that was due entirely to my being exposed to rather more enlightened teachers plus I learned very quickly not to put my head above the parapet once I started at school.

I suspect the fact I LIKED school stood me in good stead too and I learned that studying hard got me a layer of protection from punishment.Clever,smart and quiet is what teachers want.

AS I say the cane has never been an option for me but I personally think the worst thing a teacher can do is ridicule or shame a child, a far worse thing than physical chastisement.:(

I do wonder at times though whether the lack of physical punishment is making our teenagers harder to control and manage and whether some poor behaviour would not be as prevalent as it is these days though I appreciate that it is probably a more complex than that.

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35006134)

the worst ones who bullied me tried to intimidate me at the 10 year reunion.Some guy told me they were going to get me. They then all left in a taxi leaving me thinking thats funny perhaps my large neck and massive biceps( at the time) put them off a bit lol lol

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I think a lack of any real hope for a lot of kids is what is making them harder to control. Lets face it this country does not offer the under privileged much and the education system is a farce in as such kids are passing exams but not really learning much ,gives them less chances.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35006091)

this must be very worrying for some teachers

Originally Posted by Spectato (Post 35006145)

You'll probably find that teachers (as the rest of us) are already pretty worried by the level of violence, inside and outside of their schools.

I don't think you can blame an incidence of caning for creating such a psycho as Mr Bullen clearly is.
Assuming it wasn't carried out for the teacher's own gratification, you have to ask why a 6 year old boy was up for caning in the first place (while I agree that no one that young should be).
Also that he's been expelled from multiple schools and "has a long criminal record".

Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 35006156)

That's strange.

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds, the comments pages are full of lurid descriptions about what people would do to the men responsible if they had been the victim.

Yet when one victim does exactly that, people get upset about it.

:confused:

Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 35006156)

That's strange.

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds, the comments pages are full of lurid descriptions about what people would do to the men responsible if they had been the victim.

Yet when one victim does exactly that, people get upset about it.

:confused:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35006150)

Maybe he was mistreated at home and maybe it was not just one incidence of caning at school.

Originally Posted by cookie_365

Usually when you read news stories about child abusers attacking 6 year olds

Originally Posted by Spectato (Post 35006192)

He almost definitely had a violent upbringing/home-life.
The violence that he wrought on his teacher wasn't the result of being caned once.
It just wasn't.

Child abuse?
He was/is a teacher.
It was state sanctioned punishment, which usually if not always required parental consent (did at my old school anyway).

What I can't believe is people implying that this guy deserved that level of beating, or indeed any beating.
You'd kind of hope that someone like Mr. Bullen might have just grown up and moved on.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35006308)

A 20 year grudge? Some people seriously need to get a life.

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35006304)

I bleive that your home life moulds you.

My parents don't smoke, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't drink exessively, nor does my sister and I

My parents don't do illegal drugs, nor does my sister and I

My parents aren't violent, nor are my sister and I

I have friends who parents smoke, guess what they do

I have friends who parents drink to much, guess what etc etc.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35006308)

A 20 year grudge? Some people seriously need to get a life.

Originally Posted by xpod (Post 35006212)

You know what they say about assumption eh. ;)

Originally Posted by Spectato (Post 35006496)

That it's one of the things that made us an incredibly successful species? :shrug:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35008457)

What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'?

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35010493)

Ooops - well spotted; I will repost.