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winkle 19-04-2010 16:16

Red Button v Sky HD
 
for all sports fan

If you were given an option of having Sky Sports red button or Sky Sports HD which would you take.

Acidphire21 19-04-2010 16:16

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
red button all the way for me

LondonRoad 19-04-2010 17:04

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
red button.

TheDon 19-04-2010 17:44

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Additional content or a more polished picture? Only going to be one real winner there. HD is nice, but it's useless if you can't watch what you want to.

v0id 19-04-2010 19:13

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If I could choose, I'd have all Premiership games on ESPN/ESPN HD instead

jb66 19-04-2010 20:34

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
They need to sort this red button thing out. Sky are being very sneeky and are out of order not passing it on to vm.

danstephens 19-04-2010 20:55

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
No red button was the reason i dropped sky sports. so red button for me.

LondonRoad 19-04-2010 21:04

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danstephens (Post 35004540)
No red button was the reason i dropped sky sports. so red button for me.

I wonder how much revenue Sky lose through their pigheadedness. I, and 2 of my mates, no longer subscribe to SS solely because of the red button.

one2escape 19-04-2010 21:47

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HD all the way

trickytree 21-04-2010 10:48

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Red button - I want the content and can live with it not being HD if the content I wanted was there at least

richard1960 21-04-2010 18:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danstephens (Post 35004540)
No red button was the reason i dropped sky sports. so red button for me.

Also the reason why i dropped sky sports from my vm package so red button for me.

Griz 22-04-2010 17:15

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Red button for me too please!

Chrysalis 22-04-2010 19:31

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
red button of course, its missing content vs hd same content slightly higher quality which many people cant even tell by the naked eye.

Ignitionnet 22-04-2010 20:54

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35004463)
If I could choose, I'd have all Premiership games on ESPN/ESPN HD instead

I doubt ESPN would be free on VM if that were to happen ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35006108)
red button of course, its missing content vs hd same content slightly higher quality which many people cant even tell by the naked eye.

*Cough*

Speak for yourself dude it's pretty obvious to me when I'm watching SD and HD, even with upscaling.

ahardie 23-04-2010 10:28

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35006108)
red button of course, its missing content vs hd same content slightly higher quality which many people cant even tell by the naked eye.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35006186)



*Cough*

Speak for yourself dude it's pretty obvious to me when I'm watching SD and HD, even with upscaling.

I agree with Chrysalis on this one. Content is much more important to me. The improved pq HD brings is nice but it's not a dealbreaker.

jamossons 23-04-2010 11:17

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Hi all, I just received email from this forum asking me to join from cablehell!! I have poor eyesight so HD is valuable to me for that reason; was with VM but switched to Sky last year because of the many extra HD channels, the red button is great too because I can choose what I want to watch. Spoke to a VM rep when I cancelled and he told me Sky would never let them have the facility. Apart from that they would find it hard to to implement it in the same manner..........Straight from the horses mouth!!

richard1960 23-04-2010 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jamossons (Post 35006627)
Hi all, I just received email from this forum asking me to join from cablehell!! I have poor eyesight so HD is valuable to me for that reason; was with VM but switched to Sky last year because of the many extra HD channels, the red button is great too because I can choose what I want to watch. Spoke to a VM rep when I cancelled and he told me Sky would never let them have the facility. Apart from that they would find it hard to to implement it in the same manner..........Straight from the horses mouth!!

Doubt it somehow just how would a vm rep far removed from any negotiations vm might have visa vi the red button issue,have any idea weather vm might carry it or not in the end.

I would take whatever a rep might say with a huge pinch of salt as in reality they probably know no more then we do,unless he has a direct line to sky HQ.


Anyhow i ditched sky sports and will not take it again their loss.

jamossons 24-04-2010 10:40

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Hi Richard, OK everyone to his own. However, I did forget to mention this guy was from technical services somwhere in Middlesboro and seemed to be knowing what he was talking about............Also why do you think he would say that if it was in his remit to try to keep customers? He is one of those who ring you back trying to get you to stay with VM, he did offer some good deals then told Sky and got an even better one!

jb66 24-04-2010 17:26

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It would be easy, create a channel called sky sports red button 1 etc and relay the red button picture on there

Ignitionnet 25-04-2010 00:58

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35006579)
I agree with Chrysalis on this one. Content is much more important to me. The improved pq HD brings is nice but it's not a dealbreaker.

I didn't comment on that my response purely referred to picture quality:

Quote:

Speak for yourself dude it's pretty obvious to me when I'm watching SD and HD, even with upscaling.
What people may find important is a YMMV question, not really my place to tell someone else their opinion, that's the government's job :)

ahardie 25-04-2010 12:06

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35007778)
I didn't comment on that my response purely referred to picture quality:



What people may find important is a YMMV question, not really my place to tell someone else their opinion, that's the government's job :)

Yes I was really responding to the flow of the thread Ignition rather than just your post. I do get what you are saying about some people finding HD more important than others. To me content will always be more important.

Ignitionnet 25-04-2010 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 35007871)
Yes I was really responding to the flow of the thread Ignition rather than just your post. I do get what you are saying about some people finding HD more important than others. To me content will always be more important.

Totally agree - PQ is nothing if the content of the uber-quality picture sucks! :)

ulstersam 25-04-2010 13:45

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
Red button simple choice really. If you want to watch a HC rugby match you are stuck with what VM/Sky decide you watch.
Don't laugh but I'm an avid Ulster supporter who lives in Wales and I've been wanting to watch my beloved Ulster team and been subjected to an Ospreys or Cardiff Blues match.
While we're on the subject of Red Buttons can anyone explain why Virgin customers don't get the choice of English commentary via the Red Button for games shown on S4C?

Charlie_Bubble 25-04-2010 13:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35006108)
red button of course, its missing content vs hd same content slightly higher quality which many people cant even tell by the naked eye.

Get a decent TV if you can't tell the difference. If you can watch a game of football/rugby/golf on HD and not notice any difference between it and SD, then I'm afraid you should go immediately to your local opticians.

LondonRoad 25-04-2010 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 35007922)
Get a decent TV if you can't tell the difference. If you can watch a game of football/rugby/golf on HD and not notice any difference between it and SD, then I'm afraid you should go immediately to your local opticians.

I can tell the difference but it really isn't that important to me. A poor game of football doesn't improve in better definition. Similarly I forget if I'm watching in HD or SD if it's an exciting game.

I'm sure I'd feel different if I was watching on a 60 inch screen but on 32 inch it doesn't make enough of a difference for me.

I notice the difference more on some of the nature documentaries but again not enough difference that I'd consider paying extra for it.

Chrysalis 25-04-2010 16:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35007894)
Totally agree - PQ is nothing if the content of the uber-quality picture sucks! :)

I agree if the tv is large enough and is lcd its noticeable.

I more meant a lot of people still have crt or a screen thats not big enough to really notice the difference.

For sure on lcd's sdtv looks far worse than it does on a crt, on a crt sdtv is smoothed out as the pixels are not sharp.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 35007922)
Get a decent TV if you can't tell the difference. If you can watch a game of football/rugby/golf on HD and not notice any difference between it and SD, then I'm afraid you should go immediately to your local opticians.

bit strong aint it?

I can watch a game of football and see what is happening fine? so why do I need to waste money on a new tv and hdtv subscription?

Charlie_Bubble 25-04-2010 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35008044)
I agree if the tv is large enough and is lcd its noticeable.

I more meant a lot of people still have crt or a screen thats not big enough to really notice the difference.

For sure on lcd's sdtv looks far worse than it does on a crt, on a crt sdtv is smoothed out as the pixels are not sharp.

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bit strong aint it?

I can watch a game of football and see what is happening fine? so why do I need to waste money on a new tv and hdtv subscription?

You might think so, but I think the statement, 'slightly higher quality' is utterly ridiculous. The difference between HD and SD is huge. Try watching HD for a couple of weeks on a decent sized TV (Something over 36 inches) and then change back to SD, it's like going from colour to black and white, especially in sport (And nature) programmes, and it's Sky Sports that you're talking about in this thread.

Chrysalis 25-04-2010 23:32

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well this is it.

1 - sdtv on a crt is way better than on a lcd, so the gap between sdtv on a lcd and hdtv may be large but the gap between sdtv on a crt and hdtv on a lcd isnt so large.
2 - also to me a 36" tv is massive I have no need for such a tv.

jab1990 27-04-2010 08:47

Re: Red Button v Sky HD
 
given how long it takes for other services to start using the red button, i wouldn't be counting down the days for this service.

musicbravo 28-04-2010 00:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jab1990 (Post 35008794)
given how long it takes for other services to start using the red button, i wouldn't be counting down the days for this service.

Quite correct, you'd be counting down the days for the service to actually appear on your screen after pressing the red button :D

Anyway IMHO as I don't have a HD TV at the mo I would much prefer the content over HD


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