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Taf 16-04-2010 20:21

VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

We’re updating our email service which means we have to change our email address.

To make sure you don’t miss important news about your products and services as well as the latest offers, please update your address book or contact list with our new email address:

VirginMedia AT emails.image.email.virginmedia.com

Here's how


Many thanks



The Virgin Media Team

reply to VirginMedia.VBQI4.57 AT emails.image.email.virginmedia.com
Looks a bit suspect? :dunce:

Peter_ 16-04-2010 20:23

Re: VM change of email address?
 
FAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is not a Virginmedia email address.

MovedGoalPosts 16-04-2010 20:26

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I've had one of these too. It would be a very weird address for them to be using.

Ken W 17-04-2010 10:36

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I have just received the email, it looks very suspect.

Peter_ 17-04-2010 11:18

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken W (Post 35003097)
I have just received the email, it looks very suspect.

As I said above it is fake!!!!!!

Kymmy 17-04-2010 11:57

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Weird though as normally a fake involves a scam address, the subdomain given can only belong the vm.. So what's the point in it??

Toto 17-04-2010 13:32

Re: VM change of email address?
 
The point is that email.virginmedia.com resolves to Virgin Media:

Code:

$ host email.virginmedia.com
email.virginmedia.com has address 92.238.96.11

whois 92.238.96.11
[Querying whois.arin.net]
[Redirected to whois.ripe.net:43]
[Querying whois.ripe.net]
[whois.ripe.net]
% This is the RIPE Database query service.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
%
% The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf

% Note: This output has been filtered.
%      To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag.

% Information related to '92.238.96.0 - 92.238.96.127'

inetnum:        92.238.96.0 - 92.238.96.127
netname:        BROADBANDAUDIT
descr:          KNOWSLEY VLAN
country:        GB
admin-c:        TWIP1-RIPE
tech-c:        TWIP3-RIPE
status:        ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:        AS5462-MNT
source:        RIPE # Filtered

role:          Telewest Broadband IP Network Services
address:        Genesis Business Park
address:        Albert Drive
address:        Woking
address:        Surrey UK
address:        GU21 5RW
e-mail:        ripe@telewest.net
remarks:        To report abuse:
remarks:        file an online case @ http://netreport.virginmedia.com/netreport/

So, adding a few extra bits before the legitimate domain then could confuse some people into thinking its a legitimate email from Virgin Media. It's a known phishing trick that can fool the unsuspecting person.

The email though is making an unusual request, well it would seem unusual at first:

Quote:

To make sure you don’t miss important news about your products and services as well as the latest offers, please update your address book or contact list with our new email address
That does not look like a phishing email, except that because Virgin are now using Google for their email platform, white listing an email address will almost guarantee that even if the content is marked as spam by Google's Postini spam filter, it will still drop into the mailbox.

This is a very clever precursor to what looks like a future strategy of phishing emails aimed at Virgin Media.

Interesting as well is this:

Code:

$ host emails.image.email.virginmedia.com
emails.image.email.virginmedia.com mail is handled by 50 mail-router.e-dialog.com.

That needs looking into.

---------- Post added at 12:32 ---------- Previous post was at 12:24 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35002671)
Looks a bit suspect? :dunce:

Taf, were there any links in that email sir?

Taf 17-04-2010 13:36

Re: VM change of email address?
 
The "Here's how" was a clickable link which I killed on posting... just in case someone clicked on it in here.

I've binned it now, so don't know where the link pointed to.

Toto 17-04-2010 13:38

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35003207)
The "Here's how" was a clickable link which I killed on posting... just in case someone clicked on it in here.

I've binned it now, so don't know where the link pointed to.

Hmmm, interesting..........if anyone else still has the email, could they PM me the link please.

So, probably a full blown phishing email then.

Scrubbs 17-04-2010 14:06

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I have the mail if your still needing it?

Toto 17-04-2010 14:17

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrubbs (Post 35003226)
I have the mail if your still needing it?

If you can PM me the link they have in it, that would be cool.

Scrubbs 17-04-2010 14:38

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Toto (Post 35003231)
If you can PM me the link they have in it, that would be cool.


done, with the "unsubscribe" link as well. I couldn't fit the "privacy" and "about us" links but I think they are similair to the "heres how":)

Toto 17-04-2010 15:18

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Thanks Scrubbs.

I have to be honest, I'm a bit baffled with this one.

On the one hand, this is not a phishing attempt, as it does not ask you to give up any important information. On the other hand though, I just don't see why Virgin Media would change a marketing address and ask its customers to update their address book.

I've checked the link supplied by Scrubbs, it looks legitimate of sorts.

It takes you to a page that gives instructions on how to white list an email address for various email clients and web mail services.

I would ask though that if Virgin Media had sent this, why didn't they include an image of their branded web mail service hosted by Google.

The company handling the links is a legitimate email marketing company. It boast associations with many common brand names, so I am really not sure if this email is genuine or not.

Masque, if you have any contacts in VM that can help confirm or deny this email, I think it may help.

Peter_ 17-04-2010 21:46

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I will look into it Monday but an @virginmedia.com email address is a public email address not an address that would be used for business as they all end in @virginmedia.co.uk so very unlikely to have been sent by Virginmedia.

danbayliss 19-04-2010 12:06

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I have looked into this today and can now confirm that this email is genuine

Peter_ 19-04-2010 12:28

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danbayliss (Post 35004247)
I have looked into this today and can now confirm that this email is genuine

Thanks Dan, bit of an odd email though which makes it look even more suspicious to say the least.

Matty_ 19-04-2010 12:45

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Sorry but this is very confusing, and really needs to be clarified. We have one employee stating the address should end in .co.uk and someone else saying that it is genuine.

No disrespect Dan but how do we know that what you are saying is genuine?

I don`t know if you work for Virgin or not (you only have 8 posts on here). Why have Virgin changed this marketing address?

You have to admit it does look a bit scammy 123.xxx.123.xxx.com

Kymmy 19-04-2010 12:46

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Dan has just verified his VM staff status

Peter_ 19-04-2010 12:54

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty_ (Post 35004275)
Sorry but this is very confusing, and really needs to be clarified. We have one employee stating the address should end in .co.uk and someone else saying that it is genuine.

No disrespect Dan but how do we know that what you are saying is genuine?

Hi, to me it looked fake but I know he is a senior member of staff and if he says it is real then I know that it is real, plus he is now verified as per Kymmy's post above.

Matty_ 19-04-2010 14:46

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Nice 1, better to be safe than sorry :)

Many thanks

Kymmy 19-04-2010 16:16

Re: VM change of email address?
 
If you have an issue (such as not knowing if someone claiming to be a member of staff is verified or not) then please PM a mod or use the report post feature ;) ) open forum isn't really the place to discuss such matters :D

Sephiroth 25-04-2010 01:38

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danbayliss (Post 35004247)
I have looked into this today and can now confirm that this email is genuine

Oh dear. You missed your chance for plausible deniability!:naughty:

Paul 25-04-2010 01:46

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I got it the other day.

Quote:

We’re updating our email service which means we have to change our email address.

To make sure you don’t miss important news about your products and services as well as the latest offers, please update your address book or contact list with our new email address:

VirginMedia @ emails.image.email.virginmedia.com
Whoever came up with that e-mail address should be took to one side and shot - what an incredibly long and silly domain.

Tony. 25-04-2010 01:49

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35007797)
I got it the other day.



Whoever came up with that e-mail address should be took to one side and shot - what an incredibly long and silly domain.

I also received this and due to the silly email address i instantly deleted it without opening :dunce: Thought it must be spam or phishing

mfarmilo 25-04-2010 03:00

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 35007798)
I also received this and due to the silly email address i instantly deleted it without opening :dunce: Thought it must be spam or phishing

Exactly. I couldn't believe that anyone in their right mind would come up with such a ridiculouly long address. It's like they wanted it to look suspicious.

So yes, anyone who would come up with a name like that should be shot.

FairyFairy 25-04-2010 12:55

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Yes I deleted mine immediately thinking it was spam

Toto 25-04-2010 13:29

Re: VM change of email address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35007797)
I got it the other day.



Whoever came up with that e-mail address should be took to one side and shot - what an incredibly long and silly domain.

You have to wonder don't you?

Sephiroth 25-04-2010 13:39

Re: VM change of email address?
 
I'll remind everyone again that VM's quality director publicly said in January 2009 that VM's processes were "fundamentally broken".

Of course they still are but it's also degraded to "mentally broken"!


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