Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002599)

Source?

I am laughing at this right now... I think 30 Years experience outweighs Health and Safety somehow. (In this scenario)

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35002592)

honest to god you couldn't make it up



wasn't sure whether to put this in humour :D

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002608)

I think everybody knew what the source would have been, without even having to ask. :LOL:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35002611)

wrong wasn't my source

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002619)

It seems to me that Sainsbury's has certain training procedures in place and their insurance company insist that these are adhered to. If this person had only been employed by them for a short time, it is entirely possible that he had not been given the opportunity to attend the relevant training session. It is also possible that he does not have any formal qualifications and has been working in the family business for those thirty years, without going to college and for some reason has ended up working for a supermarket.

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It would have been helpful, if you had provided the source in the OP.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35002628)

seems to me that sainsbury's do what a lot of companies do nowadays and ignore experience in favour of bits of paper
A similar thing happened to me ,i have been doing my job for 25 yrs or so but still had get a NVQ2 to say i knew how to do it ,and believe me i could have taught the examiner a thing or two

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002632)

But how would have proved to any prospective employer you were qualified in your chosen field? If I employ someone who says they are qualified, the first thing I ask for is to see their certificates.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002632)

But how would have proved to any prospective employer you were qualified in your chosen field? If I employ someone who says they are qualified, the first thing I ask for is to see their certificates.

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002643)

As most decent employees do here in Norway: Set you a task, and judge you on how you perform said task.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35002657)

Is the 'Mirror' classed as an 'approved' publication?
Link
Or will the original source of the story do?
South Wales Echo
The bit that is missing(censored?) from the Mirror article is:-

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002643)

As most decent employees do here in Norway: Set you a task, and judge you on how you perform said task.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002771)

Sorry, but I treat my business and my tenants with far more regard than that, to allow a potentially unqualified electrician, for example , to effect any repairs or installations, without first ensuring they are qualified to carry out the work. I do not treat qualifications as a ticket to employment, but why would I consider employing someone with qualifications, above someone who has none (apart from the fact that for some jobs is it a legal requirement)?

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002890)

Electrician is a high-risk job, not only for the electrician, but for everyone who ever comes into contact with his/her work.

Being a butcher? Not so high-risk, sure, watch your fingers... That's about it.

Big difference.

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002890)

Electrician is a high-risk job, not only for the electrician, but for everyone who ever comes into contact with his/her work.

Being a butcher? Not so high-risk, sure, watch your fingers... That's about it.

Big difference.

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35002890)

Electrician is a high-risk job, not only for the electrician, but for everyone who ever comes into contact with his/her work.

Being a butcher? Not so high-risk, sure, watch your fingers... That's about it.

Big difference.

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35003002)

How belittling that comment was.There is a lot of skill and knowledge required from a Master butcher and it has been pointed out that an indifferent butcher is capable of killing many if he doesn't apply his knowledge well.

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 35003047)

Fair enough.

My main point still stands though, set them a task, evaluate them on how well they've done, what could have been done differently etc. Sure it may take a little of the companies time, but at least there's proof that the person doesn't just have a bit of paper, or, as the case may be, doesn't, but that they do have the necessary expertise to get the job done correctly.
I've seen many many people whose skill level within a certain field i would consider to be incredibly high, yet without these bits of paper, they're worthless in the eyes of any company.

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35003780)

But isn't that the whole point of this thread? He hadn't been through that assessment yet and was the reason why couldn't carry out certain tasks.

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35003843)

he'd been teaching the other younger butchers how to do the job so i would expect that sainsburys felt he was qualified or he wouldn't be allowed to train other butchers