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More effective than a bunch of striking BA workers!
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Complete shutdown from midday. No flights allowed into UK airspace from then and I'd assume nothing taking off either. Ireland is pretty well shut down as well. |
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If this goes on for long I imagine there'll be chaos for some time afterwards. We have a relative supposed to be flying back to NZ at the weekend.... :erm:
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Just be glad that the major part of the cloud has missed Europe altogether.. It's gone north of Norway
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This is really bad new, Mr Tink is due to fly back from Germany tomorrow.:(
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I don't know... first we have the fallout from Iceland's banks to deal with an now it's fallout from their volcanoes... :) |
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Ahem! Let's watch the political inferences folks.
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Got this link off the Sky website - it shows up to the minute information on every plane in the Sky over europe.
UK air traffic is absolutely dead apart from the lower South regions... http://www.radarvirtuel.com/?lat=54....3671875&zoom=5 Btw - this page does not work well in IE - try another browser. |
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My brother is meant to be flying back from Amsterdam tonight and then to Spain tomorrow evening. Got a feeling it isn't going to happen.
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A friend was supposed to be flying up from Heathrow this afternoon en route from Mumbai. Luckily his plane got in from India early this morning so now he's sat on a coach on his way up to Manchester Airport.
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It looks like the missus won't be coming back until Saturday at the earliest...
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Hmm a huge dust cloud has closed all the airports, volcanic activity or The Emirates trophy cabinet being cleaned out again :shrug:
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Mind you if you read the report of the 82 incident the other big problems was that the ash sand blaster the windscreen and they couldn't see the runway in front of them, they had to use a narrow 2" gap on number 2 window.
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I was beginning to thank god that his story broke to stop the 24/7 news of the election, no I'm not so sure, as I have had BBC News 24 and for the last 4 hours its been nothing but UK irports shut.
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I did think it funny earlier that the reporter who was interviewing a spokesman for Air Traffic Control, and he appeared to be trying to get the ATC spokesman to say that UK airspace will be closed for days and to describe the chaos that will ensue. The ATC spokesman, of course, was saying none of that (they don't know, so it would be bad to speculate). Then, back in the studio, they had a volcanologist who they were asking if people with respiratory problems should worry, to which the reply was that they should in Iceland, all we are likely to see is some pretty sunsets...
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On Nat Geo +1 i'm watching the '82 incident.
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If it does we can say goodbye to summer! Wasn't it an Icelandic volcano that caused a long period of cold weather in England in the middle ages? |
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I was due to go on hols..sigh...I didn't expect boss to invoke earth spirits to stop me :)
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Well it's official Mr Tink's flight has been cancelled. Don't know when he will be back now, but expect Monday at the earliest. Miss him like crazy!:(:(:(
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Might get a nice sunset out of this :), possibly the chance of a parsons ring. I mean a bishops ring
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This should really be in the happy thoughts thread
Is laughing at the fact the Belgium has closed its airspace, and his former employer has some 50 aircraft unable to deliver it parcels. How much is it gonna cost them, well I reckon at £50,000 per aircraft a day, that is a nice tidy £2,500,000 a day. Happy days :D |
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---------- Post added at 20:55 ---------- Previous post was at 20:52 ---------- I`m waiting for my Daughter and Grand Daughter to come into Heathrow tomorrow at 1.15pm tomorrow afternoon from Abu Dhabi, any news on when that flight might come in? EYO19. ?:erm: |
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So the more grief this company gets the happier I am :D |
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Oooh just looked at sunset and there is definately a bluey green glow not sure if its connected but its nice to think it is ;)
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This is a link to Heathow, you can check flight info there.
http://www.heathrowairport.com/porta...b12871120103a0 |
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I read earlier that the cloud is 6 miles up but our planes fly at 35,000 feet, how does it make it dangerous at the two levels?:(
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35,000 ft is 6.5 miles
---------- Post added at 21:16 ---------- Previous post was at 21:13 ---------- The dust cloud goes up to 50,000 ft. I wouldn't want to be I a plane at the moment in Europe |
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Where else in the world is this cloud? Or is it just over the UK at the moment? |
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It's mainly over NW Europe at the moment.
Shows the predict spread in the next few days. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8623534.stm |
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My mistake, it was in 1783 it last erupted. "If the volcanologists are right, we could be in for a bumpy ride. The last time Iceland had a colossal eruption was in 1783. Laki, a fissure close to the GrÃ*msvötn volcano, burst open and threw up fountains of lava and clouds of ash for eight months. The poisonous sulphur dioxide gas killed over half of Iceland's livestock population and led to a famine that wiped out about a quarter of Iceland's population. Meanwhile, as the cloud blew south it wreaked havoc over Europe, too. "This outpouring of sulphur dioxide during unusual weather conditions caused a thick haze to spread across western Europe, resulting in thousands of deaths throughout 1783 and the winter of 1784," says Jerram. The fog was so thick that boats across Europe were forced to stay in port." |
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Latest air closure news is no UK flights until at very least midnight tonight (GMT)
Czech airspace has also just announced partial closure of thier airspace with Prague airport due to cease operations from 10:00 GMT |
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With regards to the health issues they have said, warning people with asthma and such to be carefull out side, what about pets?
My sister has a rabbit that when they are home has free run of the garden, and there kitchen. Should they bring him into the house (he has been brought indoors when the weather was really cold outside), as he eats he grass that could be contaminated? |
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Eating isn;t a problem it's breathing in the fine dust that could be the problem..
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When the dust starts to come low enough to affect us would we smell the sulphur or would the smell have disappeared by the time it lands on us? :dunce:
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I actually doubt if we'll get much of it.. It'll stay up for quite a bit
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Thanks Kymmy.
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Just posted on the NATS website. :mad:
http://www.nats.co.uk/ |
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Etihad Airways have put them up in the Capital Hotel in Abu Dhabi. Everythings included.:) My Daughter says its the best airline she`s ever flown with and as for my Grand Daughter, she`s loving every minute of her adventure.! :D Can`t wait to get them home though.:(:) |
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It's starting to look unlikely that the missus will be flying home tomorrow. First available alternative is on Tuesday :shocked:
She's looking into trains and ferries now to travel from Italy to the UK, so she won't make it before Monday. That's if she can get tickets... |
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Sooner have them home here though but at least they`re safe where they are.;) |
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Been keeping an eye on this, although hopefully it wont affect my wife & I who are due to fly out in 3 weeks (unless the winds continue to blow the ash south) I have some friends who are\were due to fly out and are now in limbo. One flying home to Oz for a 3 week vacation and another off to Lanzagrottie for a week (tomorrow)
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Seems really odd not having planes taking off or landing every 5 minutes or so. Normally you can hear a faint rumble coming form the airport, oh to live in a world without planes!
Best wishes for anyone effected by this strange event, it does seem odd though because the sky is clear as a bell! :Sun: |
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The wife is now booked on a flight to Dublin on Sunday evening, planning to then take a ferry over to the UK on Monday. That's assuming the Italian airspace remains open. :erm:
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Well John Cleese was in Oslo and is getting a taxi to Brussels and gonna cost £3,300
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Sho...Cancels_Flight |
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£3.50 a mile. I think thats what my 406 is costing me at the moment.:D |
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Ouch, and i thought paying £65 for my lad to get home from Rochester after he missed the last train was bad enough. I still reckon my £70(including tip) probably left more of a dent than Mr Cleese`s £3,300 did though.:erm: |
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My daughter got to Sydney airport to come home after a two week holiday.
She's been told she can't board because of the backlog of passengers. She says she could be there for another week - I do hope she was joking - she's having her tonsils out next Friday :-) |
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I've been offered cover work for a teacher who supposedly can't get back in time for Monday..
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All flights grounded again http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8626686.stm
webcam of volcano http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-valahnjuk/ |
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I'm stuck in Lisbon. Flight was booked back to London for Sunday, but it seems I will be here till at least Monday (and that's me being optimistic).
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---------- Post added at 09:03 ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 ---------- And does Easyjet qualify as a European airline? I assumed they didnt qualify as any type of airline lol. |
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I have just checked the easyjet website and it looks as though a refund or transfer is being offered. HTH :shrug: |
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To be honest I am not too fussed about accomadation as I have family in Lisbon, although I will take the accomodation if offered (don«t want to impose on people if i don't have to). I also need to check my travel insurance documents to see if there is anything in there regarding disruptions caused by volcanos. ---------- Post added at 09:43 ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 ---------- By the way, what does HTH stand for? |
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Hope That Helps. ;)
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They only need to offer accomodation if you are on a leg of a flight that started elsewhere (i.e.. a return ticket or changover) As already said budget airlines get passed this by doing each leg as a seperate flight (you can NOT buy returns or multi-leg journeys from then) so they do not need to offer accomadation with the ONLY options being refund or transfer within 30 days
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I'm unsure about a hotel being paid for by easyjet as something in the back of my mind is telling me they aren't liable, although i'm not sure if they might offer as a gesture of goodwill. |
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Nope, if you go throught the BA booking system then it quotes "•Outbound prices shown are valid only when purchased as a return journey." so the return is attached to the ticket and it's not two seperate tickets
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Thanks for clarifying. ---------- Post added at 10:19 ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 ---------- The easyjet website suggests I am entitled to accomadation (I think I am reading this correctly) http://www.easyjet.com/en/book/regulations.html#delays under delays and cancellations. |
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Possibly with option "1. Re-routing to your final destination at the earliest opportunity;"
but from what I read elsewhere that option due to the nature of the event is not applicable and the only options are reroute at a later date or refund |
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Personally I am of the opinion that flights originating from EU states, be they budget airlines or not, are governed by EU regulations. The EU regulations I have read so far do not distinguish between budget and non budget airlines.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8621779.stm the paragraph near the bottom reinforces my view above. |
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I believe that some airlines will if they have passengers stranded overseas without any accommodation they will in the current situation put people up in hotel and feed them.
After all if they keep them sweet and they will come back and tell people of what they did for them. |
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Well, I have a couple of friends affected by this.
1 is a little peeved that his holiday to mallorca is effectively cancelled (he had a five day break booked starting last thursday). 1 is in Thailand on a 3 month break, but isn't due back for a few weeks. 1 is stuck in New York on a business trip, and is loving it.. Apparently, she can claim the hotel accommodation costs from her company. |
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like I said I may profit from this if there are any staff still at their holiday destinations come 9 am on Monday..;)
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My sons holiday to Egypt has been cancelled, He doesn't seem to be that bothered about it though. :shrug:
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Wife's work has started a rescue mission. One of her colleagues (and his brother) have driven to the chunnel and are now in Calais.The missus has managed to get a hire car which she'll drive from Italy to France (this involved a trip to the opticians as she didn't have her driving glasses on her). ETA back home is some time on Monday. She left last Tuesday for a 2 day trip...
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UK is still a no fly zone
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They were saying on the news that the last volcano to erupt in Iceland, in the 80's I think, spewed out ash for six months! We just need a change in wind direction.
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UK airspace restrictions now extended until 01:00am BST Monday
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The latest met office report said the volcano is still erupting & possibly intensifying.
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LOL @ Dan Snow and his Dunkirk style evacuation of Calais
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Not sure if I would be that desperate, to cross one of the busiest shipping channels in world in an inflatable......
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My boss is due to fly to New York tomorrow (for work), and a colleague to Vietnam (holiday). Neither will be pleased to see me tomorrow. :erm: |
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Watching this morning's news about one group of travellers who made it onto a cross channel ferry from Caen to Portsmouth arriving about 9pm last night.
There was nearly a riot when they discovered that they were required to queue up for passport control because they were all in danger of missing the last train/bus home. In the end the police who had been called by the Ferryport immigration control decided that everyone holding up their passports in the air was sufficient for them to pass through. They all missed their connections though..and then spent the night at the train stations and bus station. Why am I not surprised that the rail and bus companies seemed to make no effort to hold one or two services over.Where has the entrepreneurial spirit of our various travel industries gone?Me if I was the boss of National Express I'd be rubbing my hands with glee and arranging extra buses for occasions like this. |
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Daughter is stuck in Oz until Thursday now. Waiting for updates.
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The News of the world says it could be at least another 10 days yet.! :erm:
I really hope not.:mad: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news...h-spreads.html |
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I'm sure things will be back to normal soon and everyone will have their loved onces back where they belong :) |
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