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martyh 13-04-2010 20:04
Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
what do other members think of this ?
is he trying to buy redemtion? or is he genuinely supporting a group dear to his dead wife?
would you accept it knowing what he'd done ?
should the guides accept it ?

thoughts


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A convicted paedophile who raped his own daughter has left £400,000 in his will to the Girl Guides.
sky link

my own thoughts are ..take the money and run

zing_deleted 13-04-2010 20:11
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he is dead whats it matter take the cash

budwieser 13-04-2010 20:12
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Like zing said, take the money, the blokes dead anyway. He may as well help someone with his cash.:)

Gary L 13-04-2010 20:18
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I'd take it. if they don't take it somebody else will.

budwieser 13-04-2010 20:22
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Its not as if its dirty money is it.

Gary L 13-04-2010 20:25
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
Just don't give him any acknowledgement for it. that'll tell him something :)

martyh 13-04-2010 20:27
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35000710)
I'd take it. if they don't take it somebody else will.
yeah ..the government

they could accept it ,and then donate it to a charity that deals with rape victims or a support group/s for paedophile victims after all the world association of girl guides and girl scouts (or WAGGGS..had to laugh at that)isn't short of a bob or two

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35000714)
Just don't give him any acknowledgement for it. that'll tell him something :)
he's dead ,how can you tell him anything?;)

Spectato 13-04-2010 20:44
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
Twisted, ironic humour perhaps?
Or just good old spite (maybe a mixture of both):
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Forester-Smith left more than £1m to charities, including £312,291 each to the Macmillan Nurses Cancer Association and Cancer Research UK - but nothing to his daughter.
My dad often used to 'joke' about leaving his worth to the cats and dogs home (so original). :rolleyes:

Tuftus 13-04-2010 21:54
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Money is money, if it is going to a good cause and all that?

Tony. 13-04-2010 22:22
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
I think they should accept this money then 'donate' it back to the poor daughter

Xaccers 13-04-2010 22:32
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
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Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 35000780)
I think they should accept this money then 'donate' it back to the poor daughter
I was thinking along the same lines.

Paul 13-04-2010 23:39
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She wouldnt be very poor if she got £400,000.

Sasha222 13-04-2010 23:53
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Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 35000780)
I think they should accept this money then 'donate' it back to the poor daughter
After what he put her through I doubth if she would want anything belonging to him. She probably just wants to forget he ever existed

Hom3r 13-04-2010 23:58
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Couldn't you say that this is "Blood Money"?

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction (dead or Alive) of taking this money. Taking it would have only helped him possibly free him from the guilt of his crimes (if he ever felt guilt), and if I had a daughter going to this Girl Guids Group I would remover her imeidately.

budwieser 14-04-2010 00:01
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35000849)
Couldn't you say that this is "Blood Money"?

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction (dead or Alive) of taking this money. Taking it would have only helped him possibly free him from the guilt of his crimes (if he ever felt guilt), and if I had a daughter going to this Girl Guids Group I would remover her imeidately.
" Couldn't you say that this is "Blood Money"?"
No, How can it be?
" if I had a daughter going to this Girl Guids Group I would remover her imeidately"
Why?

Gary L 14-04-2010 00:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35000849)
Couldn't you say that this is "Blood Money"?

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction (dead or Alive) of taking this money. Taking it would have only helped him possibly free him from the guilt of his crimes (if he ever felt guilt), and if I had a daughter going to this Girl Guids Group I would remover her imeidately.
I'd agree, but he's dead and he's not going to see whether you take it or not. I wouldn't take it if he was still alive though.

Paul 14-04-2010 00:36
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Guilt is over-rated. Take the money and be thankful.

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The largest bequest was to the Girlguiding movement in memory of his wife Sheena who was a keen supporter of the Guides and Brownies. She died in 2001.
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In his will Forester-Smith left more than £1m to charities, including £312,291 each to the Macmillan Nurses Cancer Association and Cancer Research UK - but nothing to his daughter.

The two organisations have also yet to decide if they will accept the money.
So these charities can afford to be picky now ?

danielf 14-04-2010 00:54
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35000873)
So these charities can afford to be picky now ?
Surely they can do what they like? If they feel they don't like the source of the money that's up to them?

Flyboy 14-04-2010 15:36
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35000715)
yeah ..the government

they could accept it ,and then donate it to a charity that deals with rape victims or a support group/s for paedophile victims after all the world association of girl guides and girl scouts (or WAGGGS..had to laugh at that)isn't short of a bob or two
They could put it towards better child protection measures and education on safety for their members.

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Originally Posted by Tony. (Post 35000780)
I think they should accept this money then 'donate' it back to the poor daughter
It is easy for the daughter, in these circumstances to contest the will. I would have thought that Sky News would have reported this if she was doing so. This inclines me to assume their reporting of the story is not as accurate as it could be.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 35000849)
Couldn't you say that this is "Blood Money"?

I wouldn't give him the satisfaction (dead or Alive) of taking this money. Taking it would have only helped him possibly free him from the guilt of his crimes (if he ever felt guilt), and if I had a daughter going to this Girl Guids Group I would remover her imeidately.
If the money had been earned from activities linked to his paedophilia I'd agree, but it appears unlikely that this is the case.

How can he feel guilt if he is dead.

ZrByte 14-04-2010 15:42
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Its not blood money unless it was earned through something like child pornography or other illicit means.
I'd take the money and either spend it where it was intended or break it down and donate much smaller amounts over about 10 different charities. I certainly wouldn't reject it.

Will21st 14-04-2010 15:55
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Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35001166)
Its not blood money unless it was earned through something like child pornography or other illicit means.
I'd take the money and either spend it where it was intended or break it down and donate much smaller amounts over about 10 different charities. I certainly wouldn't reject it.
I think by Blood Money Hom3r means the guy 'paying off ' his guilt. I agree to an extent,however him giving the money doesn't change the facts of what he did.
Anyway,it's money and who are we mere mortals to decide the guys guilt or what-not.
Take the money and do good! :)

martyh 14-04-2010 20:43
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35001154)
They could put it towards better child protection measures and education on safety for their members.

good idea

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It is easy for the daughter, in these circumstances to contest the will. I would have thought that Sky News would have reported this if she was doing so. This inclines me to assume their reporting of the story is not as accurate as it could be.

Tori Dante, Forester-Smith’s daughter – now aged 42 with her own children – embraced religion with her husband to help rebuild her life, waiving anonymity to publish a book in 2002.

she has refused any comment and wanted nothing to do with her father after he branded her a "liar" ,so i would assume from that she doesn't want to contest the will nor does she want any of his money

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If the money had been earned from activities linked to his paedophilia I'd agree, but it appears unlikely that this is the case.

agreed ,he was a society photographer in the 70's

How can he feel guilt if he is dead.
one question that has sprung to my mind is IF this was to show his repentance why didn't he donate it anonymously ? the same for the money he left to mcmillans and cancer research uk

Stuart 14-04-2010 21:06
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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35000873)
So these charities can afford to be picky now ?
It may not be that simple. If those charities accepted the money, it may damage their public image to be seen to be accepting money from paedophiles. If their public image is damaged, then they may lose more than the value of the donations.. Just imagine the headlines if some of the tabloids got hold of it..

"Charity accepts money from Paedo"..

Jules 14-04-2010 21:08
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Take it and then donate it to child line or something.

martyh 14-04-2010 21:40
Re: Paedophile donates 400k to ...girl guides
 
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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35001354)
It may not be that simple. If those charities accepted the money, it may damage their public image to be seen to be accepting money from paedophiles. If their public image is damaged, then they may lose more than the value of the donations.. Just imagine the headlines if some of the tabloids got hold of it..

"Charity accepts money from Paedo"..

quite right ,if they do accept it then the guides must be seen to be doing something constructive with the money or some of the money to make the donation "clean" so to speak

Sasha222 27-04-2010 00:14
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Any update on where the money was donated to


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