Protesting. The boot is on the other foot.
 

Or maybe not on a foot at all but instead flying through the air towards someones face, entirely legally. :mad:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7094311.ece

Now I'm not an expert on Islamic history and I'm aware the soles of shoes are seen as disgusting to some Muslims but I wasn't aware the throwing of shoes was a 'ritual'

Also surely allowing this to be done by Muslims and not other faiths is discriminatory?

Good effort, a pair of flip-flops is one thing, a pair of hob-nailed boots is quite another.

Who on earth came up with this idea? Obviously someone who hasn't been near a street in years and was wanting a promotion. Hopefully the next protest over cartoons etc. gets policed exclusively by office-dwellers. Let's see how happy they are to allow cops to get pelted with objects then. :mad:

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bloody typical if I had my way there would be no consessions for Muslims

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Since when do the police have the power to (re)write laws?

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Obviously you missed that meeting. It was the one at the docks. ;)

Anyway they don't re-write the laws but they can give advice to parade/demonstration organisers as to what is/isn't allowed and what is likely to happen.

Something that would end up with a trip to HM B&B one day might get a stern look on another day.

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What I mean is, and I'm sure you'd agree, if it's illegal to throw a shoe at someone, then it's illegal to throw a shoe at someone.
Sure they can turn a blind eye to somethings, ie someone doing 80mph down a straight motorway at 1am when no one else is on the road, pull them over, have a quick word to make sure the driver is only driving fast, tell them to slow down and have a safe trip home, or a bunch of protesters burning a flag or throwing shoes at building without breaking windows or hurting anyone, but when it comes to criminal damage or assaulting someone by throwing a shoe at them, how can they justify turning a blind eye to it?

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Because thats apparantly what Muslims do when protesting and of course some perceived 'right' to protest in the way they see fit trumps anything as petty as laws. :rolleyes:

Its a total joke, someone whose sole purpose in life is to shine a chairseat has probably got a phonecall from someone saying this was happening and has thought "Ooh this is a good idea to prove how diverse I am" and issued an order that Muslim protestors can chuck shoes about the place without thought or consequence of what this will result in and now the decision is made they are so terrified of being accused of racism it'll never be changed back.

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Sounds like they've been helping themselves to some of the green plant stuff in the evidence locker.

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Reading the article am I right in thinking that they're saying it's ok to throw shoes at the buildings, and basically also if you happen to hit a copper we'll not nab you?
Not quite "come and have a go at the copper shie" but pretty close.

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Anyone else picturing sales of large sized heavy wear steel toecap bots with cleats going up n the near future then?

Possibly the sale of lead soled deep sea diving boots will increase too.

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Crazy. this country is crazy. we are being made fools of and there's nothing we can do.

Isn't this just a cut down version of Sharia law creeping in? it's illegal but not if you're a muslim.

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Yes Gary, that's exactly what it is, well done ... :dozey:


Unless I'm reading this incorrectly:

- Throwing shoes at someone is legal on the grounds that it's a form of protest;
- Injuring someone (by whatever means) during a protest would still be contrary to law.

I would imagine this could be seen in the same way that simply swinging punches is not illegal in and of itself, but connecting with another person and causing them harm would then be contrary to the law.

So what if people want to chuck shoes about? Let them get on with it. When they start hurting people and not getting any sort of punishment then let's worry about it. That said though, there's enough drunken muppets about our towns on a Friday/Saturday night causing each other damage and getting away with it ...

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Nobody is saying "Throwing shoes at people/objects in protest is illegal unless you're Muslim"

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I wonder if the police themselves are going to protest about having to be legaly assaulted by Muslims. if one or two get seriously injured as a result of these missiles will they just have to say oh well.

It's just a cultural thing. just tell them we are very sorry but somebody can get hurt. if you want to throw things at people then go and do it amongst each other.

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Imagine the carnage if us non-Muslims were known for throwing eggs at politicians.

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Would they allow that part of our culture in their country. or would it be an insult and likely to mean you'll be shot?

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Good point. Let's drag ourselves down to their level rather than rising above it.

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Muslimastan you mean?

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If that's where they brought their cultures, customs, and thinking from. yes.

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We could rise above it by saying no. the thing you have to understand is that over here things are different. we can't allow you to do one thing whilst not allowing another. the whole thing would be a mockery and there won't be an end to it.

then again you'd face the risk of offending them. so you best say yes anyway.

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Ok then I'll use the "them and us" approach you're favouring.

"They" are known for throwing shoes in protest.

"We" are known for throwing eggs in protest.

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I'd say us. but it's them that are telling us that them are different to us.

they are known for a lot of things. it's just waiting for when they demand to have the right to do them things.

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OK when they start demanding pop back with a thread about it.

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I'll probably be 'They want to stone their women and the government is considering making it legal'

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First of all I don't think it's compulsory. Secondly, I am not sure whether it is legal to assault a police officer, or anyone else, for that matter. Where in the guidelines does say that it is?

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It's an option available to Muslims only.

It's not. unless you're a Muslim you can throw shoes at them.

Can't wait to see a copper giving a Muslim a ticket for something or other, and all the Muslims get out the car and start throwing their shoes at him :D

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All of that is a bit silly, isn't it.

First of all, I don't think it is an option for anyone to assault another person and be exonerated due to ones religion. Secondly, this is related to protest, not criminal charges.

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Do you think anyone would know the difference?

If I protest at an officer for saying I was driving like a mad man. and started throwing a boot load of shoes at him. it would be assault.

it's not going to be fair telling the muslims they're allowed to do it, and then punish them for when they do.

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Traffic offences are not usually considered to be valid reasons for political protest.

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You'd be surprised how many people bring politics into everything and not wearing a seatbelt, nowadays.

I hope someone is explaining the differences to them.

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Well maybe it is a bit more detailed and we don't know it saying something along the lines of "light footwear would be permissable in a legitimate protest" thus getting past the hob nailed boot thing. Although i do think it's a bit of a dangerous route to go down allowing anything to be thrown during a protest as people generally are not at their most rational sometimes.

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Forgetting all the muslim this and that, its clear to see what the serving front line officers think of this rule from Dereks post, thats assuming you arent just the station receptionist Derek :D

Its the police I feel sorry for. I wouldnt like to go to work to have a slipper thrown at me. Id be donning the riot shield and running into the slipper throwers braveheart style if some sweaty old slipper hit me in the face :D Its things like this that feed racism and attract people to the BNP IMO. It certainly doesnt do the muslims ( I hate saying "the muslims" always feels a little bit racist to me but whats a better term?) any favours and only breeds racial hatred. Im certainly not racist but I can see why some people say we are heading towards an Islamic state :(

It should be our country, our laws, same as in any other country. Thats not a racist point of view I just dont understand why or how people can expect to move to another country and get laws changed in favour of themselves. I dont normally get drawn into this type of thing and I will probably get shot down for my views but its stories like this that make me angry

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Pigs trotters should disperse any angry mobs then ?

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not by me ,i agree 100%, there's possibly half a dozen bylaws being broken with this arcane practice ,when will these people learn that they they do themselves no favours at all with some of their practices

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Bullocks!

Throwing a shoe at someone for the purpose of hitting him is a battery if the shoe in fact strikes the person and is an assault if the shoe misses. The fact that the person may have been unaware that the shoe had been thrown at him is irrelevant under this definition of assault. The incorporation of the definition of civil assault into the definition of the crime makes it a criminal assault to intentionally place another person in "fear" of a harmful or offensive contact. "Fear" means merely apprehension - awareness, rather than any emotional state.

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would be quite funny to see protesters randomly throwing punches into thin air though. Id pay to go and see that and sit there eating my popcorn :D better that than sweaty slippers being thrown about :p: At least that wouldnt be causing harm to anyone whereas a doc martin in the face might

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This is an absolutely ridiculous ruling by the judge in question, its precisely rulings like these that sow discontent between different religions and groups in the UK.
How a judge can rule that it is permissible for one section of society to throw shoes at or in the direction of the object of their protest? when if a Christian, Hindu or Atheist were to do the same they'd get their collar felt.
We already have a number of irresponsible "newspapers" stirring up hatred toward Muslims, so how on earth are the main-stream supposed to debunk these so called journalists when we have judges making divisive laws such as this?

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I wouldn't have thought a cartoon that wasn't even printed in a newspaper was either but some people did :erm:

* JOKE ALERT FOR FLYBOY *

Still seeing a number of cops are now Jedi I'm sure they can cover their batons in luminous green paint and start swinging wildly into the mob as that is allowed in their religion. :D

* END OF JOKE ALERT FOR FLYBOY *

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Perhaps, but not a very good one. Didn't even crack a smile. ;)