Boyle goes too far?
 

http://beta.news.sky.com/skynews/Hom...k_Star_Rebuked

Firstly I'm a huge fan of his, and there's more than an element of "you know what you're getting yourself in for" if you go to see him but that certainly does not give someone absolute freedom to say whatever they like.

I think he might well have gone too far in this. His apparent reaction on stage however could be shock on his part that someone who has paid to see him has ended up offended, not something I reckon he's used to.

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He did the same act when I saw him a few weeks ago. It was shocking but IMO no more than any of the other stuff he did.

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There is always someone wanting their 15 minutes of fame by being "offended" by something. If they were that offended then why not just leave, and not bother going to see the bloke again - why the need to go crying to the media.

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Who the hell would go to see Boyle knowing what he is like and then become offended by his material? :confused:

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And especially get front row tickets.

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This is one of my biggest grypes, why go and see a comedian who does material that will offend you??

They obviously haven't seen Jimmy Carr.

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Didn't you read the article, she didn't go crying to the media it was in her blog and she won't be going to see him again, it's his ''Last ever tour''.

I liked this complaint

In November, Olympic swimmer Rebecca Adlington complained to the Beeb after the Scottish comic joked she resembled "someone who's looking at themselves in the back of a spoon".

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This bit gets me:

"I expected dry, nasty, crude humour, yes, but unimaginative humour poking fun at the stereotype of people with Down's syndrome was not something that I expected."

So basically she's happy when he's lampooning someone else but when it comes to her, suddenly its out of order.

She knew what she was getting into, she shouldn't whinge.

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Most folks know what to expect going to see someone like Frankie, and sitting in the front row for any comedy gig is also setting yourself up to be included in such shows (quite a few other rows too if Andy Parsons pre gig on stage camera is anything to go by)

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She knew what he was like and she had thick skin. I think that is what is meant by "he went too far". Sometimes something isn't funny and if your being grossly offensive then you have to be funny or original at least. It's generally better if by being so shocking your either sending yourself up or making another point.

He was simply doing exaggerated impressions of people with a disability. There is nothing new or clever he what he did and that is the Women's contention, that the only thing he did is laugh and mock people with Down Syndrome. Presumably because he thinks that they are an acceptible target. Again, It's quite ok for any topic to be chosen for humor but it is how you do that makes the difference.

Still she isn't suing him. Just said he went too far. He seems to have taken on board so story over.

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Im offended by your comments :D


I can understand her being a bit upset but at the end of the day shes paid to go and see a comedian and surely knew what his jokes were like. I would think these aren't his personal views and its about trying to make people laugh, maybe shock them in to laughter.

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I got some last minute tickets for a Jerry Sadowitz gig once that should have been in the front row. Luckily I got them changed to two rows back and someone else had to cope with him and the unfortunate "spitting, foaming at the mouth and aids combination".

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One persons joke is anothers insult, you can't please everybody

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So Russ from hearing what everyone else has to say, and I'd agree with all of them, as they all say the same thing in the end. Do the comment here make any difference to you or change your of opinion? Are there things that shouldn't be allowed (do you have any other examples perhaps)?

As stated in the article, if this person laughed at another joke she would be then hypocritical.

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She paid to hear and laugh at crude nasty comments said about somebody elses daughter. but when it come to her daughter having crude and nasty comments made?

you can't please everyone with comedy. you can only please certain sections of people at a time.

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Agree completely :)

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Again, I think it's easy to say 'crude and nasty comments about someone elses daughter' but according to reports this was just someone laughing at disabled people rather than making a joke? He simply did an impression of someone with downs. Also it seems it kicked off when he challenged her, not the other way around.

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You've got to have a thick skin as a Carer... and a good laugh is great medicine, even if you have to laugh at yourself or your family.

It keeps me from going cuckoo..... well completely cuckoo.

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I must watch the 2 Mock the Week DVDs I have that have stuff that can never be aired. FB is on it.

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I`ve got them mate, you`ll love them. :D
If you like Frankie Boyle, you`ll love these.:)

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also worth finding are the blue collar comedy tour DVDs (4 of) and the Rodney Carrington and the majestic DVD. especially Rodney's song 'show them to me' heh

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Couldn't agree more Damien, as far as I'm concerned there is very little subject matter out of bounds in comedy.
But there is a world of difference between a joke at a Downs person's expense and the visceral mickey taking about early death and how a person looks, having said that its a free country and if people find this sort of material funny then he certainly knows his audience...personally I think its lazy "comedy", and I use the word comedy very sparingly.

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I believe it was because he challenged them as to why they were talking.

Which says to me that he asked and was answered. If he didn't like the reply, he shouldn't have asked the question.

They do not seem to be the types to garner unwarranted attention unnecessarily. She wrote about it on her blog, I expect to earn some catharthis and was presumably noticed by someone from the media.

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I think you must have been reading a different thread. They don't all agree.

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I concur, but there is a difference between a funny joke and and someone using disabilities to deliberatley offend. I am as willing as the next man to have a chuckle at a funny, clever joke about autism, but if it was suggested that autistic people are ugly, odd people with no prospects, I would most certainly take offence.

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At the time of making the post they did.

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Shame that he's quit Mock The Week.... He was deffo the highlight of the show....

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Exactly. You can make any topic funny, you can find humour in disability in which everyone can enjoy because no individual is the butt of the joke. Your not mocking someone just for being different and presuding people to laugh alone with you at their expense, bascially the same as bullies at school, your finding humorous aspects of their life. One which a lot of people in that position may also find funny. But mocking their voice and their walk? That's entirely different.

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And the response to that is............so what?

Is good that I can recycle a post that I made just yesterday in another thread.


I'm sick of people being offended. The idea that if you "offend" someone, that some kind of appeasement is neccessary really winds me up.

It's one of our freedoms. If someone is offended that's fine they can be offended.

It's a point of view, what you find offensive I may not, and vice versa.

Unless it is prescribed in law that the "offensive" act is illegal in any way, (which of course is different), Otherwise if anybody says to you "I find that offensive" say "good" and then tell them to F****ff

Same applies here.

She offended? Well that's unfortunate for her then isn't it?

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YAY! Recycling. :D


And my response that is .... eh?

He is not being sued, nor investigated, or being censored in any way. Someone made a critism of his comedy and some of us agree, we are entitled to give criticism about his style of comedy just as much as he is entitled to say what he did. You mention freedoms well this is just one of them.

Him as well because it reinforces his critics view on his comedy, he may not care, but I don't recall any long term "shock comedians". There is only so far he can get with the "he can't say that, can he?" type of jokes before people get bored.

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Jerry Sadowitz, Chubby Brown, Jimmy Carr, Billy Connolly (you may not think but he has been pretty shocking in his time, I remember him making jokes about the guy from Liverpool that was beheaded in Iraq).

If he's funny, he's funny, I'd go to see him.