Greater Manchester policemen jailed for 'cruelty'
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/8609346.stm

Seems a shameful note to end a career on..I cannot fathom why the Sgt didn't intervene. :erm:

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probably because he is of the same character,
unfortunately this type of incident just gives the people who think the police are the **** of the earth a bit more ammo

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Anyone know why she was in custody for?

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Reading that article, it appears as though this was the tip of a very large iceberg.

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Nor me - people like this give the 99% of decent cops a bad name.

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There is no excuse for their behaviour. Regardless of the situation they should have carried out their duties to the point of the law, by not doing so they ended up on the wrong side of it. Luckily for the girls involved the tape wasnt "misplaced", unlucky for the 2 numpties that got a bit of bird.

Having been on the receiving end of a copper being overly agressive (back in the day when no one had rights other than the police) nothing could have been done in my case, my solicitor was told by the duty sargent to "drop it" after I made a complaint (1981) I have no sympathy for people in positions of power that abuse it for whatever reason.

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Both got exactly what they deserve. Police are there to stop bullying, not contribute to it.

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It'll be interesting to see if they release the CCTV footage in the future.

*dons flame-proof suit*

Whilst there is no excuse for assaulting prisoners in custody I think there might be more to this than meets the eye. I reckon there will be more information coming out in the coming months.

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More to this, in like she deserved it in some kind of way?

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Nope. I'm sure she wasn't just standing around quietly but there is not excuse for assaulting a handcuffed prisoner.

I was more thinking of more cops being done for on-going issues.

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I did wonder about that..but I can't see how there could be any future hearings if they were the only two..or were there other incidents shown about other police working in the same station?Or is it a handy way of keeping it off YouTube?

As you say Derek it may be there is more to be revealed.

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Also they were charged with misconduct rather than assault. Restraining prisoners can and does cause pain and looks bad on camera, see the last few police brutality threads on here for proof of that, but does need to happen.

Could it be part of a wider investigation into lying etc.

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He had already been done for a similar offence 12 years ago see below, so you wonder how many times has he got away with it during the preceding 12 years as a leopard cannot change its spots..

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lets hope those two *******s get bullied in prison.

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I don't think anyone really believes this is the first time this has happened at this station. Stand by for more suspects to claim the same treatment.

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He who lives by the camera, dies by the camera.
Seems to be only the police that don't realise they're being filmed 24/7, like the rest of us are.

This doesn't do much to dispel the lingering perception of the archetypal thugs in uniform, as portrayed in countless comedy sketches et al, of yore.
"Oh dear sarge! He appears to have fallen down the stairs!"

Good to see that they're not completely beyond the law yet, when they slip up and get caught that is.

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Uh huh. I suppose you realise that inside police custody suites are *very* extensively covered by CCTV cameras. They also have to contend with every half-wit with a camera phone filming them whilst screaming about Police brutality and itching to edit the footage and pop it on youtube.

Well it's not like they are given far harsher sentences than the general public when convicted plus losing their jobs etc.

Hang on a sec...

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Although the irony is they probably love the political views your "party" espouses...:dunce:

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Sounds as if they were carrying out part of the BNP's policy on Crime & Justice

- End the liberal fixation with the “rights� of criminals and replace it with concern for the rights of victims – and the right of innocent people not to become victims;

- Re-introduce corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals;

:shocked:

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The likes of this guy with a previous conviction for a similar offence gives the decent guys in your job a bad name and they need to be rooted out.;)

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Hmmm, if they allow the Police to hand it out on the spot they might get my vote after all :D

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Not to mention many apparently genuine examples of police malpractice.

It's an unenviable job, trying to keep order among the sub-human drunks that plague our cities, but then representing 'the law' is a big responsibility.
If you can't stay within it, you shouldn't be wearing the uniform.
The custodial sentences do seem unnecessary.
Probably more appeasement and PR than serving any practical purpose.

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Aah yes, let's give them carte blanche to beat the crap out of suspects whenever they want, at least we know where your sympathies lay.

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Despite being a copper from Glasgow I'm pretty sure Derek
was having a laugh.:rolleyes:

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+ 1

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You really ought to learn to recognise 'black humour'.;)

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says the woman who had a pop when I said the barbecued rabbit would have been better of in a stew ;)

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But that was a cutesy-wutesy lickle fluffy bunnykins, not a scrote......:D

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Don't worry I know the difference between gallows humour and bad taste humour.;)

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I still prefer venison. or barbecued pork, beef, umm.. ok, I am a carnivore!

back to the police issue.

Ok, this thread is currently on it's second page. Time to say what I think. (doing this because sometimes when I post in a thread, it goes quiet)

IMO the police involved deserved what they got. and why? because they are police? no. Because they ABUSED their positions as well as the 19 yr old.

They are in a uniform in order not only to uphold the law but to set an example. They failed, miserably, they set the example of yobs in a uniform and for that they deserved to be made an example of.

It is as I said. Some police when on duty put on an attitude along with the uniform. This is an extreme example of this, and was dealt with in an equally extreme way (custodial sentences)

Why was this more harsh than with others? because they are supposed to be leading by example.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

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you do? strange that cuz you called what Derek did was "black humour" which by definition is "the juxtaposition of morbid and farcical elements (in writing or drama) to give a disturbing effect ";)

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Maybe because you end a post with things like this lol :p:



On topic (sort of) I think it was plain to see Derek was joking, surely thats what the use of a "smiley" was about?

Its a huge responsibility being a copper and doing something wrong like this is just asking for trouble and crazy. I wouldnt like to be one locked up :shocked:

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Racist! ;)

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*DING* *DING* *DING*

We have a winner!

Yep, next time I make a joke I'll prefix it with a warning in red flashing letters as being obvious about it and adding a smiley isn't enough anymore.

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You obviously forgot by virtue of being a serving Police Officer that you are not allowed by law to show humour or you may face a disciplinary panel.












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