Police trespassing - is it ok?
 

If I were one of the homes they had entered I'd be well annoyed.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/ma...urglary-exeter

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I'm sure we've had this before - I can understand people being annoyed at this but at the same time if the police could spot a vulnerability in my home security I'd be grateful for them pointing it out, although perhaps a card through the door might be more appropriate.

Then again, if it meant someone actually gets in to the house you're more likely to notice it...

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I believe the police actually have the right to enter any property, and take such action as they deem necessary, if they believe and can demonstrate that doing so was necessary to prevent a crime being comitted.

I might be wrong though.

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Prevention of crime isn't a good enough reason.

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Even if it is a case of trespass, as stated in the OP it is not a criminal offence, it's a civil wrong. A householder could take the boys in blue to the county court and seek redress in the form of damages.

Given that such damages would have to be a reflection of the actual loss to the homeowner caused by the trespass, and not some arbitrary punitive amount, exactly how much do we think they constabulary could reasonably be sued for? The price of a jaycloth to wipe the bootprints off the kitchen lino? The price of a phone call to the newsdesk of the local rag?

This, as usual, is a storm in a media teacup full of solicitors who would never have even heard of the story, let alone commented on it, had they not been phoned up and asked for their opinion by the Grauniad.

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More or less annoyed than you would be if Johnny Chav-boy went in through an unlocked door and nicked your telly?

Personally I think the police have better things to do with their time but if its choice between pointing out glaring vulnerabilities in home security or handing out flip-flops to drunks in town centres then I'd say bring up the swag bags.

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On the brightside someone almost certainly got a promotion out of the idea. :D

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I wouldnt mind. Might even teach my girlfriend to make sure she locks up when she goes out or if she does lock up, not to leave the door key in the lock :rolleyes: :)

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On relfection I think I would be annoyed at this although not annoyed enough to go running to the papers, Claims Direct etc. After all like Derek says better the trespasser be one of his boys than a legit burglar.

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The thing you have to remember is that they gather all your valuables together and put them in a swag bag ready for Johnny Chav-boy to pick up. I doubt if they have any means of securing the property on the way out. so it's just as vulnerable as it was, but there's a swag bag full with goodies waiting for Johnny now.

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The final line in the article

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and?

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well one line said ." But not all residents were happy and a criminal lawyer suggested that the police may have been guilty of trespass." Yet nobody actually complained. Sounds like its just the lawyers wanting to get involved or a paper making a story out of nothing IMO

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It suggests that of the 50 or so people whose homes have been 'broken into' none of them were annoyed enough to actually complain about it to the Police.

Of course now some lawyers have got involved I'd imagine pound signs will be swirling and they'll start moaning about it.

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It depends what part of Essex it is. whether it's a little village with old people in.

but putting that aside. you can't just let the police enter your property for an 'awareness' thing. you'll eventually forget what rights you have as a member of the public and think that they're entitled to do whatever they want as long as nobody complains.

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Then lock your doors... ;)

It's not like they went wandering round with an enforcer putting doors in right, left and centre. They went round and if they could wander into a house they did before giving suitable advice to the homeowner.

I've done similar when I've seen open doors, it's not been part of an operation but its better than taking a crime report for a stolen telly.

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This could the beginning of something. it could be like the scheme where you chose to play the recycling game. only to be later fined for not doing it properly.

could we see it becoming an offence if a policeman finds that your property is insecure. one where if a door is found to be open you wake up to find an on the spot fine waiting for you by the kettle in the morning? :shocked: :)

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Personally I am very careful when it comes to locking doors and windows.

I wonder what would happen if Johnny Plod crept in through an open window into a house in darkness, and whilst collecting valuables in his swag bag to teach the owners a lesson received a bash over the head from the home owner.

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it would certainly teach you a lesson. Although what if the chavs see the old bill doing this then pop in after and take all the handy bags away lol

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or a bite off a dog

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oh dont be silly Gary this time the Police are actually trying to be helpful in their own way

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I definitely don't think it's okay, but then again, how stupid are these people, leaving their properties unsecured, in this day and age? :shrug:

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You mean Exeter :P Which is a city, but being in Devon has a large amount of old people. Also, having one of the top universities in the country means the population is largely made up of students. I'm surprised they didn't complain

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Any particular reason why you've bumped a thread which is almost 2 years old?

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Sorry, didn't mean to. I was looking for information on this which lead me to join the forum

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Isn't it if they have reason to believe a crime is being comitted? Which is completely different.

If find a house that isn't secure, then all they have to do is ring the bell, or leave a leflet.

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Kind of thing you should expect, when you forget to lock it :D