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Osem 26-03-2010 21:55

New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
As if we didn't know:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8588829.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8590248.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...me/8588370.stm

Part of me wants them to win the next election so they carry the can for what they've done but on the other hand every moment these people are in power the worse our predicament gets.

Earl of Bronze 27-03-2010 00:12

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34988340)
As if we didn't know:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8588829.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8590248.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...me/8588370.stm

Part of me wants them to win the next election so they carry the can for what they've done but on the other hand every moment these people are in power the worse our predicament gets.

If the intellectual, moral and ethical midgets of the liebour party get returned, even with a minority government, I expect the markets to pounce on Britain like a shark on an injured swimmer.... The markets believe that another 5 years of Liebour will weaken Sterling, further damage the UK's credit rating, and sink the country further into debt with more borrowing....

If Liebour return, they will nail the coffin lid on the UK for several generations.... If the Tories get in, we'll just be mighty screwed for at least 5 years....

Derek 27-03-2010 06:08

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
They are absolutely incapable of telling the truth.

Hugh 27-03-2010 07:27

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Speaking of spin, I wonder how these five General Election pledges are going to be measured?
Quote:

secure the economy, make it hi-tech, raise living standards, protect services, and strengthen community fairness
Sorry to be pedantic, but can we just score these five so far:-

secure the economy - epic fail
make it hi-tech - mmmm, Government IT Programmes have such a good record, and they're cutting spend on IT (see article below)
raise living standards - see "secure the economy", as one follows the other
protect services - with the cuts promised, I wonder how? (see Guardian Budget article below)
strengthen community fairness - meaningless verbiage that can't be measured

Guardian
Quote:

The government announced in its November pre-budget report that it would be finding annual £11bn savings in spending across Whitehall but, until today, had not revealed precise plans.

The cabinet minister making the largest trim to his budget was the health secretary, Andy Burnham, who offered up more than a third of the total savings, cutting £4.35bn. He said his department could save £1.5bn by driving down the cost of procurement, £100m from IT programmes, £60m from reducing energy consumption and £555m by reducing staff sickness and absence.

Other notable cuts include £1.1bn from Ed Balls's Department for Children, Schools and Families, £431m from the Ministry of Justice, which will include the closure of 20 magistrates courts, and £700m from the politically sensitive Ministry of Defence budget

papa smurf 27-03-2010 07:33

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what some call spin i call a blatant lie,this bunch of liars have long past the time when they could recall telling the truth, it just comes naturally after a while. i mean why tell the truth to the idiots who support your total ineptitude,best to keep the plebs misinformed and paint a rosy picture that there little brains can handle ,chuck in the odd rant about the torys being the party of the rich ie[any one with a couple of devalued labour quid] and the numptys lap it up and start growling its all thatchers fault ,well its not its your fault for voting for these prats.

Gary L 27-03-2010 08:24

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I'm looking forward to seeing Labour lose at the elections. Gordon will go down in history as the muppet who destroyed the country.
and he wasn't even elected as the one to do the job.

papa smurf 27-03-2010 08:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34988446)
I'm looking forward to seeing Labour lose at the elections. Gordon will go down in history as the muppet who destroyed the country.
and he wasn't even elected as the one to do the job.

but he was the holder of the public purse for many years ,pity he held it upside down and all the coins fell out- then of course toady went of to eurotopia and left ratty and badger to finish off destroying the country.

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:04

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
What are use all going to whinge about if your God gets in at the next election ? :erm:

Osem 27-03-2010 10:11

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34988428)
Speaking of spin, I wonder how these five General Election pledges are going to be measured?

Sorry to be pedantic, but can we just score these five so far:-

secure the economy - epic fail
make it hi-tech - mmmm, Government IT Programmes have such a good record, and they're cutting spend on IT (see article below)
raise living standards - see "secure the economy", as one follows the other
protect services - with the cuts promised, I wonder how? (see Guardian Budget article below)
strengthen community fairness - meaningless verbiage that can't be measured

Guardian

Yet more hollow meaningless pledges from the masters of lies and spin which you can be sure will go exactly the same way as the others they've made over the last 13 years.

Typical of New Labour to claim that the cuts they've finally and reluctantly admitted they're going to have to make won't actually impact on our major frontline services. :rolleyes: No doubt the high tech economy they're going to build will benefit from that wonderful intergrated transport system Prescott built for us during the good old days when the tax receipts were rolling in... :rolleyes:

After all they've done they still have the audacity to bang on about fairness. What on earth do they know about that concept!! :mad:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988504)
What are use all going to whinge about if your God gets in at the next election ? :erm:

Don't worry about that, New Labour have given us 13 years worth of failure and the worst recession in decades as ammunition so I dare say that'll feature large for quite some time..... :D

Tell you what, why don't you and Flyboy start a thread dedicated to all those New Labour successes. Since it seems you're a supporter you're ideally placed to educate us as to why we should vote for more of the same.

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:19

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I dont doubt that :erm: i wonder how many people on forums make use off the ignore button :D . I imagine use all with blue froth coming from your orifices every morning wondering what bile i can spout today :D . Some people must have very different views to me what a fair society is , i think they mix fair with " its my money i earnt it if they cant afford this that and the other so be it shoot them".I want it all to pay for my broadband connection to dribble on forever and ever amen :rofl:Davey Cameron.

Hugh 27-03-2010 10:22

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
You've forgotten your medication again, haven't you?

Osem 27-03-2010 10:27

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I'm not a Tory voter, I'm a New Labour hater. Neither do I have blue hair or any relations that do. I voted for Bliar and have regretted it ever since. I don't know who I'll be voting for this time as the other 2 major parties both have policies which worry me. Having said that I'd happily vote for almost anyone if that helps to get shot of Brown and his cronies.

Still waiting for the "Why we should vote for Brown" thread BTW. You'd have thought with all those successs stories to boast about such a challenge would be gratefully received but for some strange reason that seems not to be the case... :confused: :rolleyes:

Earl of Bronze 27-03-2010 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988528)
I dont doubt that :erm: i wonder how many people on forums make use off the ignore button :D . I imagine use all with blue froth coming from your orifices every morning wondering what bile i can spout today :D . Some people must have very different views to me what a fair society is , i think they mix fair with " its my money i earnt it if they cant afford this that and the other so be it shoot them".I want it all to pay for my broadband connection to dribble on forever and ever amen :rofl:Davey Cameron.

Care in the community fails another mentally challenged citizen.... So sad....

Oh, and to clarify for you. As I live in Norn Iron, I don't get to vote for the Tories, Liebour, or the Lib Dems.... On the other hand, being on the outside allows me to see Liebour without the socialist dogma that blinds Liebour supporters to their betrayal. Not just of their core voters, but their betrayal of all the people in Great Britain....

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:33

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I,m not doing personal insults :D I,m insulting you all, but you cant help yourselves. I find your spouting laughable but in my quiet periods i just can't fathom why your continuous threads about why the multi millionaire down with the kids Davey Boy Cameron will make things any better ? Has he got a magic stick or maybe some amazing blue custard that his going to shower the country with ? Remember Conservative = Rich getting richer and sod the rest.

Hugh 27-03-2010 10:37

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It just gets better and better - Lord Mandelson has accused Osborne and Cameron of lacking the "bravery, bottle and backbone" to lead the country, because in their professional lives, they have never had to fight for anything.

This is rich from a man who has been a professional politician all his life except for a brief spell at LWTV, getting dodgy loans from millionaire friends, and whose previous boss was a boarder at Fettes and attended Oxford, like Lord Mandelson - must be a new definition of "deprived" I hadn't come across before.

They must be getting desperate, resorting to personal attacks from senior Labour politicians.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988541)
I,m not doing personal insults :D I,m insulting you all, but you cant help yourselves. I find your spouting laughable but in my quiet periods i just can't fathom why your continuous threads about why the multi millionaire down with the kids Davey Boy Cameron will make things any better ? Has he got a magic stick or maybe some amazing blue custard that his going to shower the country with ? Remember Conservative = Rich getting richer and sod the rest.

Bless - incoherence and ignorance all wrapped up in one package; a twofer.;)

Earl of Bronze 27-03-2010 10:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988541)
I,m not doing personal insults :D I,m insulting you all, but you cant help yourselves. I find your spouting laughable but in my quiet periods i just can't fathom why your continuous threads about why the multi millionaire down with the kids Davey Boy Cameron will make things any better ? Has he got a magic stick or maybe some amazing blue custard that his going to shower the country with ? Remember Conservative = Rich getting richer and sod the rest.

I doubt anyone on this, or any other forum thinks Dave has a magic wand to wave around and make the world (or our part of it at least) a perfect utopia of 100% employment etc.... On the other hand, I sincerely doubt Dave and the Tories could feck things up as badly and Liebour anf the one-eyed ******** Gordon Brown....

Osem 27-03-2010 10:38

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Why don't you just tell us all why we should vote for more of the same? It's a simple question.

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:43

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Osem i'd like to tell you what to do :D But i think i would recieve another holiday from the ever encroaching tide of blue cable forum Moderators

Osem 27-03-2010 10:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988541)
Remember Conservative = Rich getting richer and sod the rest.

Have the rich got poorer after 13 years under New Labour then?? There was I thinking that there are more millionaires in the UK than ever, including a fair few within the Labour ranks.... Under New Labour the rich have actually got richer but don't let that burst your little bubble.. Bit of a contradiction that don't you think?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988557)
Osem i'd like to tell you what to do :D But i think i would recieve another holiday from the ever encroaching tide of blue cable forum Moderators

You'd like to insult me but not answer a simple question... :confused: :rolleyes:

Hugh 27-03-2010 10:46

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You keep bringing facts into the discussion - bjorkii is only interested in ranting.....

mmmmmm, prozac.

Gary L 27-03-2010 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988541)
why the multi millionaire down with the kids Davey Boy Cameron will make things any better ? Has he got a magic stick or maybe some amazing blue custard that his going to shower the country with ?

For me I couldn't care less really. it's all about wanting to see Labour (Gordon) in particular told to GFT's.

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:52

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Carry on Spouting Conservatism :D starring various cult members now showing in a forum near you :luv: Oooh matron stop messing about.

Hugh 27-03-2010 10:53

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Peter_ 27-03-2010 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34988569)

He should have been a tory mp but went in the wrong door.:D

bjorkiii 27-03-2010 10:55

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Go and build yourself a Duck Moat :D around Duck Island :D, And take a bottle of milk with you ;)

papa smurf 27-03-2010 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988571)
Go and build yourself a Duck Moat :D around Duck Island :D, And take a bottle of milk with you ;)

what the duck are you on about.

Gary L 27-03-2010 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34988573)
what the duck are you on about.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/03/9.jpg

Osem 27-03-2010 12:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 34988571)
Go and build yourself a Duck Moat :D around Duck Island :D, And take a bottle of milk with you ;)

Yes and if you need a very expensive 'cab for hire' I hear that well known philanthropist Stephen Byers is available.... :D

Hugh 27-03-2010 12:48

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...9&d=1269697660

Osem 27-03-2010 20:24

Re: New Labour just can't stop spinning...
 
Still waiting for those New Labour apologists to explain why we should vote for more... They duck, dive, squirm, whinge and complain but still can't answer what ought to be a very simple question if HMG is as wonderful as they claim... :D

Anyway back to New Labour lies and spin - I reckon Brown's so desperate to cling onto power he's decided to copy Blair now:

http://www.labour.org.uk/labour-laun...own,2010-03-27

Quote:

When people ask what are my top three priorities for the country let me tell them – keeping on the road to recovery, keeping on the road to recovery, keeping on the road to recovery.
:rolleyes:

Sound familiar at all?

Quote:

Ask me my three main priorties for government and I tell you education, education, education... T. Bliar
He hasn't quite managed to emulate Bliar's catchy soundbites but it's pathetic drivel just the same! Brown, the man who keeps trying to wear Bliar's suit but finds that somehow it just doesn't fit.....

Note, he conveniently forgot about the bit about who got us on the road to recession, recession, recession in the first place but that's a mere detail of course.....

Anyway, I notice there's all the usual promises to make our lives better, crack down on anti-social behaviour etc.. etc.. Evidently Brown still believes that after 13 years of ABJECT failure there are enough gullible idiots out there to keep him in the manner to which he and his cohorts have become accustomed.

papa smurf 28-03-2010 08:28

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34988968)
Still waiting for those New Labour apologists to explain why we should vote for more... They duck, dive, squirm, whinge and complain but still can't answer what ought to be a very simple question if HMG is as wonderful as they claim... :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34988968)

Anyway back to New Labour lies and spin - I reckon Brown's so desperate to cling onto power he's decided to copy Blair now:

http://www.labour.org.uk/labour-laun...own,2010-03-27

:rolleyes:

Sound familiar at all?



He hasn't quite managed to emulate Bliar's catchy soundbites but it's pathetic drivel just the same! Brown, the man who keeps trying to wear Bliar's suit but finds that somehow it just doesn't fit.....

Note, he conveniently forgot about the bit about who got us on the road to recession, recession, recession in the first place but that's a mere detail of course.....

Anyway, I notice there's all the usual promises to make our lives better, crack down on anti-social behaviour etc.. etc.. Evidently Brown still believes that after 13 years of ABJECT failure there are enough gullible idiots out there to keep him in the manner to which he and his cohorts have become accustomed.

this is a good reason to vote for von braun [although this ones no rocket scientist]

Osem 28-03-2010 09:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34989155)
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this is a good reason to vote for von braun [although this ones no rocket scientist]

Yes but let's not forget his raid on the pension funds only affected Tory fat cats....... :rolleyes:

Xaccers 28-03-2010 10:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34989172)
Yes but let's not forget his raid on the pension funds only affected Tory fat cats....... :rolleyes:

Bit like the re-nationalising of railtrack, that only harmed stock holders, not the workers... oh wait...

Osem 28-03-2010 21:35

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A question. Who was it who, in 1992, said that:

"A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy, which is the sign of a weak government."

Answers on a postcard to No 10 Downing Street......

Osem 30-03-2010 11:21

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Just been listening to Blair banging on about how well New Labour have done (well he's done very nicely out of it so I guess he would be positive).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8593193.stm

Apparently Gordon Brown's glad of the support of his former boss, probably because of the influence he still wields with some sections of the electorate. Given his recent outbursts regarding Lord Ashcroft, I wonder if Brown's at all concerned about where Blair pays his tax or does the question of influence and tax status only matter when it applies to political opponents?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...blair-finances

The questions about this are not new but as yet we don't seem to have any categoric answer from the man himself who really ought to know the truth after all... :confused:

Mr Angry 30-03-2010 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34988539)
Oh, and to clarify for you. As I live in Norn Iron, I don't get to vote for the Tories....

Errr...

Earl of Bronze 30-03-2010 13:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34990833)
Errr...

I don't remember ever seeing them with a candidate standing in South Antrim Angry.... Then again, its been a couple of years since we had local or national elections, so my memory may be a tad fuzzy....

Hugh 31-03-2010 17:20

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Gordon says "Ooops!"
Quote:

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has been forced to admit he misused immigration figures after being criticised by the statistics watchdog.
In a podcast on Friday, Mr Brown said net migration into the UK fell from 237,000 in 2007 to 163,000 in 2008 and provisionally 147,000 in 2009.

But the head of UK Statistics Authority agreed with a Tory complaint that he had made inaccurate comparisons.

Downing Street said it accepted the statistics had been "unclear".
"unclear"? Must remember that one.......

papa smurf 31-03-2010 17:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34991778)
Gordon says "Ooops!"

"unclear"? Must remember that one.......

parliamentary privilege mate =lie as much as you like /steal what you want /and keep the mushrooms in the dark fed on bull ----

cookster 31-03-2010 17:29

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Laughable thread - can't wait until Gordon gets voted back in! Oh wait everything was rosy under the last Tory administration!

Note to self must forget 3M unemployed, 17% interest rates, ERM fiasco, killing manufacturing, Poll tax, Jonathan Atkin, Alan Clarke, Back to Basics.... I could go on forever!

papa smurf 31-03-2010 17:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cookster (Post 34991791)
Laughable thread - can't wait until Gordon gets voted back in! Oh wait everything was rosy under the last Tory administration!

Note to self must forget 3M unemployed, 17% interest rates, ERM fiasco, killing manufacturing, Poll tax, Jonathan Atkin, Alan Clarke, Back to Basics.... I could go on forever!



didn't realize anyone had voted him in last time-handed the job wasn't he.

Hugh 31-03-2010 17:34

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Things........

can only get better!

Matty_ 31-03-2010 18:30

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I have never voted in my life, politics ain`t my thing, but for the coming election i may just go out and vote Liberal.
Don`t ask me why because i don`t know, all i do know is i dislike Labour and Conservative :p:

At the moment it seems everything is stealth, spin, stealth, spin!

saabmania2 31-03-2010 19:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34991799)
Things........

can only get better!


Yeah they can, but can they get better in our lifetime?? i normally vote conservative, personally i have never voted labour and never would, but this time i might put my vote elsewhere even the monster raving looney party is looking a better bet than some of these muppets :D

papa smurf 31-03-2010 19:06

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i see Bliar has returned maybe the gullible clog n flat cap brigade will think their voting for him .


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...our-ranks.html

Mr Blair’s eyes started from his head with mock delight as he recognised, or pretended to recognise, former comrades. The former Prime Minister’s tan is that indeterminate shade of orange which suggests too much time spent in international airports, while his face has become so lean it has started to collapse inwards upon itself.

cookster 31-03-2010 19:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34991881)
i see Bliar has returned maybe the gullible clog n flat cap brigade will think their voting for him .


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...our-ranks.html

Mr Blair’s eyes started from his head with mock delight as he recognised, or pretended to recognise, former comrades. The former Prime Minister’s tan is that indeterminate shade of orange which suggests too much time spent in international airports, while his face has become so lean it has started to collapse inwards upon itself.

Oh the Telegraph, they wouldn't have an hidden agenda! Next you'll be quoting the racist Littlejohn from the Mail.

papa smurf 31-03-2010 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cookster (Post 34991909)
Oh the Telegraph, they wouldn't have an hidden agenda! Next you'll be quoting the racist Littlejohn from the Mail.

you must be from the flyboy school of politics -any one who speaks against browns cronies is a racist
i believe its also permissible in the fb school of politics to use the term nazi and or bigot if someone has a differing view to yours and gordo's ;) ,i shall not as you say be quoting littlejohn next ,you may wish to brush up on your clairvoyant skills as your prediction was a bit off .;)

Dai 31-03-2010 21:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34991963)
any one who speaks against browns cronies is a racist

It's all part of the marxist PC system..

http://www.politicallyincorrect.me.uk/definition.htm

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-...l-correctness/

Osem 31-03-2010 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cookster (Post 34991791)
Laughable thread - can't wait until Gordon gets voted back in! Oh wait everything was rosy under the last Tory administration!

Note to self must forget 3M unemployed, 17% interest rates, ERM fiasco, killing manufacturing, Poll tax, Jonathan Atkin, Alan Clarke, Back to Basics.... I could go on forever!

Yes and in the last 13 years New Labour have made it so much better haven't they..... :rolleyes: Their list of sleazy cronies far exceeds that of the Tory's you cite by about as much as their ruination of our economy dwarfs the ERM debacle. It may have escaped your notice but unemployment now isn't far off 3m (even if you exclude all those that aren't counted anymore) and that's including all the paper pushing non-jobs Brown's created at vast expense. Illegal wars, selling off our gold reserves, ID cards, stealth taxes, raids on the pension funds, uncontrolled immigration, cash for honours, ineffective regulation of the banking sector, etc., etc., etc.... All great New Labour success stories..... :rolleyes:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34991963)
you must be from the flyboy school of politics -any one who speaks against browns cronies is a racist
i believe its also permissible in the fb school of politics to use the term nazi and or bigot if someone has a differing view to yours and gordo's ;) ,i shall not as you say be quoting littlejohn next ,you may wish to brush up on your clairvoyant skills as your prediction was a bit off .;)

:rofl:


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