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gadge 19-03-2010 21:18

Headends.
 
Might sound a daft question but with all this talk about NGTV upgrades and headends but what do these headends look like are they like a cab or like a big building?.

zantarous 19-03-2010 21:43

Re: Headends.
 
I have often wondered the samething, I just imagined them to look like somekind of server room.

darren.b 19-03-2010 22:31

Re: Headends.
 
I am absolutely sure Google will know. I searched for "cable headend" and chose images and well...mystery solved.

*cough*

spiderplant 19-03-2010 22:33

Re: Headends.
 
A fairly big building. Think of an average-sized supermarket.

nodrogd 19-03-2010 23:18

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Used to walk past the Hemel Headend on my way to work. Three large sat dishes and a mast with an array of TV and radio antennas. Looks in a bit of a state now, and I think VM will probably de-commission it now analogue is switched off. All the digital kit is in an office building about 1/2 mile down the road.

Andrewcrawford23 19-03-2010 23:28

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34983368)
Might sound a daft question but with all this talk about NGTV upgrades and headends but what do these headends look like are they like a cab or like a big building?.

as spiderplanet said there more less the size of big tesco store, ive been in one it quite impressive

broadbandking 19-03-2010 23:32

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I saw the Cardiff one from the outside and went actually in to another one in Cardiff just big rooms with lots of servers.

JHM 20-03-2010 15:36

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Many years ago, in the days of Cambridge Cable, I had the opportunity to visit inside our Cambridge headend and very impressive it was too. Outside there was a fair size dish farm nestling between the building and the railway lines.

The most impressive bit of kit inside was the telephone switch, rows and rows of shiny cabinets – took me back to the late 1950s when mainframes were the size of squash courts!
--John

Hugh 20-03-2010 15:40

Re: Headends.
 
The one in Leeds (as was Jones Cable, Bell CableMedia, C&W Comms, NTL, and now presumably VirginMedia) was just in the same room as the servers (DEC Alphas and WinTel, mainly), just like a big server room full of cabs and cables (in '94, we had to switch our mobile phones off if we went into the room).

kinchyuk 20-03-2010 18:19

Re: Headends.
 
My knowledge may be a little rusty and out of date, but..

Lewisham

Croydon


Bromley

joglynne 20-03-2010 23:15

Re: Headends.
 
A couple of shots of Virgin Baguley in case the Google map camera thingy doesn't work. :dunce:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?layer=...EclKFqZFxH3lUQ

Lord Nikon 20-03-2010 23:16

Re: Headends.
 
Interesting reticule on the first photo, I wonder if someone was lining up a shot?

joglynne 20-03-2010 23:21

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Naw, it's just the Google cross hairs. Any of our members working there need have no fears that it was the sight on any thing more lethal that my inability to move it out of the screen shot. :D

nodrogd 20-03-2010 23:44

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1 Attachment(s)
Langley. The centre of Virgin's universeAttachment 19812

fixerman 21-03-2010 11:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 34983864)
Langley. The centre of Virgin's universeAttachment 19812

Be careful! The CIA might be on your case.:D

indie1982 21-03-2010 12:17

Re: Headends.
 
Teesside headend.

Not too sure if there's still a call centre at the Teesside offices also.

Just noticed the gate open round the back if anyone wants to nip in ;)

darren.b 21-03-2010 12:37

Re: Headends.
 
Edinburgh headend...

dsmuk 21-03-2010 18:05

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Think this is where the rather exciting Newton Abbot headend is... looks like a right hub of activity!

Newton Abbot clicky


There is sometimes a few VM vans parked outside

The-Darkside 21-03-2010 18:57

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 34983864)
Langley. The centre of Virgin's universeAttachment 19812

That is not the Langley Super Headend. It may be the ex telewest headend for Slough which is also in Langley.

Hugh 21-03-2010 19:36

Re: Headends.
 
Leeds Headend (as was, may still be)

Buffalo2102 21-03-2010 20:24

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34984202)
That is not the Langley Super Headend. It may be the ex telewest headend for Slough which is also in Langley.

I agree about that picture but Telewest didn't have a headend in Slough or Langley so it can't be that.

The-Darkside 21-03-2010 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo2102 (Post 34984277)
I agree about that picture but Telewest didn't have a headend in Slough or Langley so it can't be that.

Telewest certainly did. Its near Langley train station. It used to supply me my cable TV (analogue) whilst I worked at the ntl Super Headend.

saabmania2 21-03-2010 20:40

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this is the one at fishersgate Nr Brighton http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...92.94,,0,18.02

Buffalo2102 21-03-2010 20:41

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Quote:

Telewest certainly did. Its near Langley train station. It used to supply me my cable TV (analogue) whilst I worked at the ntl Super Headend
The ex-Telewest TV headend that feeds Slough is in Hayes. There is a hubsite in Slough though. Maybe that is what you are thinking of.

The-Darkside 21-03-2010 20:46

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo2102 (Post 34984297)
The ex-Telewest TV headend that feeds Slough is in Hayes. There is a hubsite in Slough though. Maybe that is what you are thinking of.

Nope, it was not a hubsite whilst I was at the DMC, for 8 years. It was the headend for Slough. Mainly analogue due to the quality of the previous owners RF network.

Buffalo2102 21-03-2010 20:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34984301)
Nope, it was not a hubsite whilst I was at the DMC, for 8 years. It was the headend for Slough. Mainly analogue due to the quality of the previous owners RF network.

We'll just have to disagree then. Analogue in Slough from ex-Telewest was fed from the Cabletime headend in Hayes. It is just migrating to digital now.

The-Darkside 21-03-2010 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffalo2102 (Post 34984309)
We'll just have to disagree then. Analogue in Slough from ex-Telewest was fed from the Cabletime headend in Hayes. It is just migrating to digital now.

Agreed, we will disagree. The telewest headend engineers were all interviewed for positions at the DMC. None were offered a job.
Big place for just a hub.

joglynne 21-03-2010 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saabmania2 (Post 34984296)
this is the one at fishersgate Nr Brighton http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...92.94,,0,18.02

When I click on your link I get the Baguley site in Manchester and I don't know whether it's just Google picking up on my earlier link to that location. :(

Ben B 21-03-2010 21:20

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It's not just you I get the same

joglynne 21-03-2010 21:27

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:D I have sooooooo many problems with Google Earth locking up my laptop every time I ask it to do anything that I am never sure whether it's working properly. Glad it wasn't just me this time for a change.

Sorry for whinging.

multiskilled 21-03-2010 22:17

Re: Headends.
 
here's some pic's of a Rediffusion headend.

http://www.rediffusion.info/rcs.html

scroll to the bottom of page.

Horizon 22-03-2010 09:18

Re: Headends.
 
Not a headend, but here's VM Towers aka HQ:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...05477&t=h&z=18

nn012 22-03-2010 09:53

Re: Headends.
 
Birmingham: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...01714&t=h&z=19

and

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...12,305.76,,0,5

Horizon 22-03-2010 10:39

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 34983864)
Langley. The centre of Virgin's universeAttachment 19812

Now this looks interesting, look at the shadows on the ground....
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...,0.003433&z=18

What could it be?:)

Or, could it be here?:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...10954&t=h&z=17

---------- Post added at 10:39 ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 ----------

Here's a overhead shot of a boring business park, can't better it I'm afraid, nothing of interest there of course:;)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...10954&t=h&z=17

The-Darkside 22-03-2010 11:26

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34984511)
Now this looks interesting, look at the shadows on the ground....
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...05477&t=h&z=18

What could it be?:)

Or, could it be here?:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...10954&t=h&z=17

---------- Post added at 10:39 ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 ----------

Here's a overhead shot of a boring business park, can't better it I'm afraid, nothing of interest there of course:;)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...10954&t=h&z=17

Crawley Court - Arqiva
Morn Hill - Arqiva
Langley DMC - Virgin.

Horizon 22-03-2010 11:40

Re: Headends.
 
....he knows his stuff.

For those less familar with this stuff, the last one is the super headend at Langley (Slough). The other two are teleports and you can actually see some dishes. The teleports were both used by ntl, in fact owned by them, before the broadcast side got hived off.

Put it like this, the tv signals come into the super headend and are sent out, distributed, through the teleports.

The-Darkside 22-03-2010 12:04

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34984581)
....he knows his stuff.

For those less familar with this stuff, the last one is the super headend at Langley (Slough). The other two are teleports and you can actually see some dishes. The teleports were both used by ntl, in fact owned by them, before the broadcast side got hived off.

Put it like this, the tv signals come into the super headend and are sent out, distributed, through the teleports.

The Super headend takes in signals, but the feeds to the regions are all done by fibre. No teleports involved.

Theres dishes visible outside the DMC as well, all 3metre dishes, all downlink dishes.

Horizon 22-03-2010 12:12

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I know VM have fibre links to the regions and to Sky etc, but didn't ntl used to distribute the different ITV regions via the teleports as but one example? Although, we're probably talking some years ago now.

Perhaps a certain spidery friend of the forum could take a few snaps of Langley when he's next there?? Just to show it really exists!:)

The-Darkside 22-03-2010 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34984606)
I know VM have fibre links to the regions and to Sky etc, but didn't ntl used to distribute the different ITV regions via the teleports as but one example? Although, we're probably talking some years ago now.

Perhaps a certain spidery friend of the forum could take a few snaps of Langley when he's next there?? Just to show it really exists!:)

The uplinking of ITV is one of the things that Arqiva do, but its nothing to do with cable. The cable headends either use the local DTT site to acquire their ITV or they use the Astra 2 downlink to acquire the correct ITV.

I wonder if it has changed much, but I doubt photo's would be approved of.

Horizon 22-03-2010 12:28

Re: Headends.
 
Thanks for that. I'm getting my terrestrials confused with my cables here.:)

saabmania2 22-03-2010 12:36

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34984334)
When I click on your link I get the Baguley site in Manchester and I don't know whether it's just Google picking up on my earlier link to that location. :(

i shall try and re-send it again later as i'm at work at the moment and can't get google earth sorry don't know how that happened :(

Digital Fanatic 22-03-2010 13:14

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Darkside (Post 34984613)
The uplinking of ITV is one of the things that Arqiva do, but its nothing to do with cable. The cable headends either use the local DTT site to acquire their ITV or they use the Astra 2 downlink to acquire the correct ITV.

I wonder if it has changed much, but I doubt photo's would be approved of.

Photos wouldn't be allowed.. that would be a security issue for sure.

zantarous 22-03-2010 17:45

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Verizon (Post 34984581)
....he knows his stuff.

For those less familar with this stuff, the last one is the super headend at Langley (Slough). The other two are teleports and you can actually see some dishes. The teleports were both used by ntl, in fact owned by them, before the broadcast side got hived off.

Put it like this, the tv signals come into the super headend and are sent out, distributed, through the teleports.

I didn't realise that Langley was that Langley, isn't Slough still a analogue area?

The-Darkside 22-03-2010 17:54

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 34984960)
I didn't realise that Langley was that Langley, isn't Slough still a analogue area?

ntl built their DMC in Langley. It was at the time a Telewest area, before the merger. The DMC does not feed any region directly.

Jayster 24-11-2010 17:05

Re: Headends.
 
Belfast?

carbon60 25-11-2010 22:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by darren.b (Post 34984018)
Edinburgh headend...

I wish I saw this thread earlier. I've just been there, I walked from Edinburgh Park railway station up Lochside Ct then across Redheughs Avenue stopping at Redheughs Rigg. I could have took a slight detour and not lost too much time. I could have 'spotted' it.

Maybe that's for the hardcore VM fan - see who can be the first to 'spot' all the headends :D

---------- Post added at 22:17 ---------- Previous post was at 21:19 ----------

Can anyone tell me what this building is used for? Street View

Some static shots: Link Link Link

It's Cable Plaza, Brierley Hill - it was a Telewest building until the merger.

My father tells me there were some huge satellite dishes nearby when he was in the area a couple of years ago but I can't seem to find the ones he described.

nn012 25-11-2010 23:16

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35127692)

Can anyone tell me what this building is used for? Street View

Some static shots: Link Link Link

It's Cable Plaza, Brierley Hill - it was a Telewest building until the merger.

My father tells me there were some huge satellite dishes nearby when he was in the area a couple of years ago but I can't seem to find the ones he described.

I thnk Cable Plaza was a call centre before closing down after the ntl/Telewest merge.

The dishes, I think, are still there and can be seen from Sainsbury's car park. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...00857&t=h&z=20

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...,155.59,,0,2.9

carbon60 26-11-2010 09:12

Re: Headends.
 
I asked my dad if it was those dishes and he said no - maybe the pictures weren't clear enough. He said it was at the end of a car park so that makes sense.

Pierre 26-11-2010 09:55

Re: Headends.
 
VMs TV feed goes to Langley direct from Luxembourg via fibre

any dishes o/s VM buuldings in the UK are now pretty much redundant.

Buffalo2102 26-11-2010 15:32

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nn012 (Post 35127759)
I thnk Cable Plaza was a call centre before closing down after the ntl/Telewest merge.

The dishes, I think, are still there and can be seen from Sainsbury's car park. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...00857&t=h&z=20

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&so...,155.59,,0,2.9

Cable Plaza is still in use by VM as offices etc.

Quote:

I asked my dad if it was those dishes and he said no - maybe the pictures weren't clear enough. He said it was at the end of a car park so that makes sense.
Those are the dishes that were used for the old Dudley headend. The headend isn't there any more though as it was moved to Wolverhampton.

---------- Post added at 15:32 ---------- Previous post was at 15:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35127871)
VMs TV feed goes to Langley direct from Luxembourg via fibre

any dishes o/s VM buuldings in the UK are now pretty much redundant.

Only some of the TV services come from Luxembourg.......not all.

JG3870 27-11-2010 00:07

Re: Headends.
 
Does anybody know where the Wolverhampton headend is?

Jon22 07-02-2017 15:22

Re: Headends.
 
Massive thread necro, which I apologise for but does anyone know where the Telford headend is? I've had a look on Google Maps, around the industrial parks but can't see anything obvious.

pip08456 07-02-2017 16:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JG3870 (Post 35128257)
Does anybody know where the Wolverhampton headend is?

In Wolverhampton.:D

Sorry couldn't resist.;)

spiderplant 07-02-2017 20:57

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon22 (Post 35884439)
Massive thread necro, which I apologise for but does anyone know where the Telford headend is?

By strange coincidence, Wolverhampton

Jon22 07-02-2017 21:05

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35884500)
By strange coincidence, Wolverhampton

That would be why I can't find it in Telford then lol. I always thought it was fed from Wolverhampton, didn't realise they were in the same building.

Inactive Digital 07-02-2017 23:18

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon22 (Post 35884501)
That would be why I can't find it in Telford then lol. I always thought it was fed from Wolverhampton, didn't realise they were in the same building.

Hi Jon, when Cable Midlands launched in Newport and Telford they had a fairly big office presence on the Central Park business estate (opposite what is now Wickes/Aldi).

Unlike the rest of the franchise, initially Newport and Telford were unable to receive either a Channel 7 local channel, or The Box (which was also local service at that time). Channel 7 just showed a still caption and The Box channel number broadcast static.

I guess that either means there was some kind of play-out facility on site for them the be broadcasting differently to the rest of the Cable Midlands franchise, or it could mean the opposite and the lack of these local services meant it was all just fed from Wolves.

Jon22 07-02-2017 23:57

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35884515)
Hi Jon, when Cable Midlands launched in Newport and Telford they had a fairly big office presence on the Central Park business estate (opposite what is now Wickes/Aldi).

Unlike the rest of the franchise, initially Newport and Telford were unable to receive either a Channel 7 local channel, or The Box (which was also local service at that time). Channel 7 just showed a still caption and The Box channel number broadcast static.

I guess that either means there was some kind of play-out facility on site for them the be broadcasting differently to the rest of the Cable Midlands franchise, or it could mean the opposite and the lack of these local services meant it was all just fed from Wolves.

Thanks for this. Think I may of found a Virgin related building in that area, on Google Maps. Has a few satellite dishes on the premises along with some vans outside. Whether it's still an office, a storage building or there's actually network equipment there, I'll leave to those more knowledgeable.

https://goo.gl/maps/Bj9aPYoDqEk

Martin_D 08-02-2017 01:30

Re: Headends.
 
Uddingston Headend


http://i.imgur.com/WtUwUNt.jpg?2

http://i.imgur.com/cMF9JtD.jpg

Inactive Digital 08-02-2017 12:52

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon22 (Post 35884519)
Thanks for this. Think I may of found a Virgin related building in that area, on Google Maps. Has a few satellite dishes on the premises along with some vans outside. Whether it's still an office, a storage building or there's actually network equipment there, I'll leave to those more knowledgeable.

https://goo.gl/maps/Bj9aPYoDqEk

That looks very likely, given the VM/Kelly vans - and is that the top of the old Telewest Communications logo on the larger dish? I work nearby so will go for a nose at some point!

Jon22 08-02-2017 13:10

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35884577)
That looks very likely, given the VM/Kelly vans - and is that the top of the old Telewest Communications logo on the larger dish? I work nearby so will go for a nose at some point!

Certainly looks like the logo. Zooming out, there's what look like some air con units around the back of the small outbuilding and maybe a couple where the dishes are. It's quite a small building compared to the one Martin linked to at Uddingston.

Mad Max 08-02-2017 13:15

Re: Headends.
 
Was this thread started through sheer boredom...:D

OLD BOY 08-02-2017 15:56

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35884589)
Was this thread started through sheer boredom...:D

I don't think so, Max, but it's as sure as hell boring the rest of us!

BenMcr 08-02-2017 16:09

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin_D (Post 35884522)

And at the other end of the M8, VM have this

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.93.../data=!3m1!1e3

EDIT: Didn't notice it was already posted 6 years ago ;)

carbon60 08-02-2017 17:19

Re: Headends.
 
Does anyone know where the Bromsgrove headend is?

I found an address via Virgin Media careers but I can't seem to find it using Google Street View.

heero_yuy 08-02-2017 18:06

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35884623)
I don't think so, Max, but it's as sure as hell boring the rest of us!

And I thought train spotting was nerdy. :D

Mad Max 08-02-2017 18:15

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35884644)
Does anyone know where the Bromsgrove headend is?

I found an address via Virgin Media careers but I can't seem to find it using Google Street View.



Bromsgrove ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D

spiderplant 08-02-2017 18:30

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35884644)
Does anyone know where the Bromsgrove headend is?

Guess what? It's in Wolverhampton too. :)

Inactive Digital 08-02-2017 19:19

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35884658)
And I thought train spotting was nerdy. :D

Trainspotting, eh?

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OLD BOY 08-02-2017 20:16

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I don't understand these strange obsessions at all.

Sorry, chaps, I'm double bored now. Going out to revitalise.

Now where's my list of number plates...? I've got 253 pages worth now, and that's just this week. :batty:

:D

carbon60 14-02-2017 12:54

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35884665)
Guess what? It's in Wolverhampton too. :)

I know the main regional headend is there but doesn't Bromsgrove have a hubsite?

spiderplant 14-02-2017 13:16

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbon60 (Post 35885665)
I know the main regional headend is there but doesn't Bromsgrove have a hubsite?

It does, but you asked where the headend was.

carbon60 02-03-2017 12:31

Re: Headends.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35885669)
It does, but you asked where the headend was.

Understood, I normally use the term hub site but I think when someone mentioned the Telford headend it confused me.


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