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BenMcr 17-03-2010 11:06

Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
http://bit.ly/bDumn6

Hot on the heels of the recently launched LG InTouch Max, Virgin Media has secured a range of new Android™ handsets for customers looking for the best in mobile entertainment and browsing on the move. With thousands of apps, widgets and games, handsets based on Google’s Android phone operating system have been taking the UK by storm and Virgin Media has secured some of the latest and greatest to date.

Including HTC Desire and Sony Ericsson X10 ;)

Acidphire21 17-03-2010 12:46

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
REALLY want to get a X10 now :)

Does it actually have the sliding keyboard that it was expected to have?

webrosc 17-03-2010 17:26

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
:D thanks for this info ben, more reason for me to swap to virgin me thinks

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 17:38

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
The HTC looks nice . The devs are trying to get android ported to the HD2 hope they manage.

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http://www.htc.com/www/product/desir...ification.html

impressive spec list on the HTC
1 ghz cpu
576 meg ram
gotta add microsd storage though
internal sat nav
Gsensor
proximity sensor
ambient light sensor
compass

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http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_x10-2964.php

SE

same cpu
better camera
no g sensor though
no sat nav
bigger screen but no LED

I personally theink the HTC wins

Stephen 17-03-2010 18:13

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I currently have the HTC HD2 after swapping from the Palm Pre due to various issues, and am really interested in the Desire. Similar specs to the HD2 but smaller screen and Android instead of the horrible Win Mo 6.5 which is the only problem I have with the HD2.

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 19:30

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
hows the android phone gonna be different? its still got sense so its the same front end and winmo 6.5.* has an easy to use scrolling menu behind sense hardly any different to android afaik so you hardly see any win mo stuff

Stephen 17-03-2010 20:53

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Well simply for the better OS. There are still plenty of Apps that still have the Win Mo interface and they suck, ie outlook and all the settings once you get passed the flashy Sense. Also the Windows Marketplace is rubbish.

Sense only covers so much. Once you get into to the programs and most of the settings its still plain old Mon Mob and looks the same as it did 3 years ago. The scrolling menu is only on the main 'desktop' screen.

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 21:11

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
then why did you get that phone? if as you say you have experience of win mo and didnt like it then and all the reviews written by win mo haters say its still the same why pick that phone? if you like Android so much why didnt you get an Android phone?

I like win mo I chose a win mo phone I certainly would not get a phone with an os on I dont like seems crazy???

musicbravo 17-03-2010 21:43

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34981864)
The HTC looks nice . The devs are trying to get android ported to the HD2 hope they manage.

---------- Post added at 16:35 ---------- Previous post was at 16:31 ----------

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_x10-2964.php

SE

same cpu
better camera
no g sensor though
no sat nav
bigger screen but no LED

I personally theink the HTC wins

If you are going to use a manufacturer as a source for one phone (The HTC) then at least use the SE website to get the correct specs for the X10.

The X10 does have sat nav via a free trial provided by wisepilot and then after that you should be able to use google maps for android which supports turn by turn. This is further backed up by one of SE's own demo videos which demonstrates augmented reality (This relies on GPS for accuracy). As for LED do you mean on the camera? In which case no it doesn't but what it does have is a photo light which although LED based is a bit brighter.

http://www.sonyericsson.com/pulse/as...10/X10_PRO.pdf -Source from manufacturers website
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/prod...10?cc=gb&lc=en - Offical X10 webpage

I think most android phones actually are on a level playing field and it all depends what specific hardware features you are after that could make the difference

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 21:48

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I did look at the SE site but was confronted with a flash interface that I could not be bothered to look beyond.


HTC has a OLED screen which is enough to win it for me

musicbravo 17-03-2010 21:51

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
What the LED screen would win you over on its own????
Battery life is better on the X10 despite having a TFT screen

BenMcr 17-03-2010 21:53

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34982026)
I did look at the SE site but was confronted with a flash interface that I could not be bothered to look beyond.
It does not have sat nav it has assisted sat nav where as the HTC has an internal antenna

I though A-GPS is GPS that uses the mobile phone network to speed up the fix time thats all. It's still got an internal antenna

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 21:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
yes I edited out

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Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 34982032)
What the LED screen would win you over on its own????
Battery life is better on the X10 despite having a TFT screen

with the other features yes it would

Battery life on the HTC will be improved by new radio installs. Also the HTC will have a lot of Devs working to improve it

musicbravo 17-03-2010 21:59

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Basically I think my next phone will be the X10, been following its progress for months and along with the HTC and the Droid they look like cracking units. Also wait for Mr jobs to spit his dummy out again as he is currently trying to sue HTC over copyright infringment (as a back handed way of getting at google for getting HTC to build the Nexus 1 (this bit is purely my speculation))

BenMcr 17-03-2010 22:00

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I'm going to go for the Desire. From what I've read the Sense UI is better than the tweaks Sony have done.

Also at the moment I think the X10 is still running Android 1.6 whereas the Desire is launching with 2.1

EDIT: 6,666th post ;)

dilli-theclaw 17-03-2010 22:01

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Well I have a couple of months left on my contract but it does look like I'll be able to get a nice phone :)

musicbravo 17-03-2010 22:13

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34982036)

with the other features yes it would

Sorry what are these extra features? (Am genuinly interested)

Do you mean like the equivalents of Sony's 5 face detection, timescape and mediascape etc?

+most features could be available by downloading equivalent apps via the ever growing Android market

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34982044)
I'm going to go for the Desire. From what I've read the Sense UI is better than the tweaks Sony have done.

Also at the moment I think the X10 is still running Android 1.6 whereas the Desire is launching with 2.1

EDIT: 6,666th post ;)

The Android 1.6 thing is a reasonable biggy at the mo, although SE have said they will upgrade to 2.1 possibly at launch, if not it should be soon after.

Though SE being SE the upgrade could take as long as VM took to make good a 'coming soon...' in the good old days ;)

BenMcr 17-03-2010 22:22

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I'm still stuck on 1.5 on the T-Mobile Pulse I've got - which is why I'm going for the Desire (plus swapping back to Virgin)

musicbravo 17-03-2010 22:25

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34982067)
I'm still stuck on 1.5 on the T-Mobile Pulse I've got - which is why I'm going for the Desire (plus swapping back to Virgin)

Fairy muff. Also Android 2.2 has been mooted by SE too. Either way hopefully any of this year's new raft of smrt phones will give Apple a much better competition

zing_deleted 17-03-2010 22:25

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
As you said the phones are pretty equal the SE has a better camera and the HTC has an OLED screen and quite a large community of devs who hack the phones release updates for radios and other stuff so for me the HTC wins

Battery wise my HD2's battery on stock rom and Tmobiles out of date rom didnt last a day now with none stock rom and new radio driver it lasts over 2 days( with normal use)

musicbravo 17-03-2010 22:31

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Cool beans lets just hope the development of the platform in general keeps going on and someone at the U.S patent office stops Mr Jobs filing such abiguous patents that ruin competition and allow him to jump on anything remotely innovative produced by a company other than his.

Stephen 18-03-2010 00:29

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34981996)
then why did you get that phone? if as you say you have experience of win mo and didnt like it then and all the reviews written by win mo haters say its still the same why pick that phone? if you like Android so much why didnt you get an Android phone?

I like win mo I chose a win mo phone I certainly would not get a phone with an os on I dont like seems crazy???

I am currently 7 months into my contract with O2 and had the Palm Pre, I had many issues and a few weeks ago they said I could change handsets and the HD2 was the only one they had I was interested in. Mainly as it was by HTC and had Sense covering up many parts of Win Mob.

I do really like the phone but there isn't a lot of Win Mo apps out there. Also O2 are still on an old software version and the phone can be a bit unstable. If they don't sort this soon I want the Desire.

webrosc 18-03-2010 03:15

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 34982152)
I am currently 7 months into my contract with O2 and had the Palm Pre, I had many issues and a few weeks ago they said I could change handsets and the HD2 was the only one they had I was interested in. Mainly as it was by HTC and had Sense covering up many parts of Win Mob.

I do really like the phone but there isn't a lot of Win Mo apps out there. Also O2 are still on an old software version and the phone can be a bit unstable. If they don't sort this soon I want the Desire.

I'm the same as my orange contrat is due in a couple months, have the HD at the mo and was thinking of changing to virgin to upgrade to the HD2 but now i might get the desire.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ is good for WinMo apps, some are terrible, but there are a few gems

zing_deleted 18-03-2010 04:13

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
there are more win mo apps than you may think. Besides its still just a phone lol

Griz 27-03-2010 16:19

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Ben,

Do you know when the HTC Desire or X10 will become available on Virgin?:confused:

BenMcr 27-03-2010 16:24

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
By the 7th I think

Griz 27-03-2010 17:36

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Thanks Ben!

spankysmagicpian 06-04-2010 13:37

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Is there a best time to ring them? I am wanting to move my daughter to Virgin from T-Mobile and I have been quoted a different figure from the website completely. I'm going to try again but would prefer someone who isn't at the end of an extremely bad line and doesn't stick to the script!

Horace 06-04-2010 14:23

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
My G1 is close to being out of contract; its been rooted and overclocked but if Flash fails to be delivered on older, RAM starved droids then I'll be looking at the X10 from VM.

Stephen 06-04-2010 14:32

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I would go for the Desire from HTC rather than the X10.

Played with both and the X10 is a bit clunky.

spankysmagicpian 07-04-2010 20:36

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I ordered the X10 for my daughter yesterday and it arrived today. It seems OK - not as large as I thought it would be. Personally, I would have gone for the Desire but you just can't tell them can you? She likes it.

My main 'worry' is if the Desire is anything like my other daughters HTC, it would at least have a glass screen rather than the X10s plastic one.

Also, oddly annoying is the lack of pinch / pull for zooming in and out on the X10 but having read up - it's apparently 'a feature' i.e. it doesn't work now and never will due to HW limitations.

Also a bit gutted at the non-budging of the £30 pm tariff on Virgins behalf considering we have the VIP pack and also another 2 mobiles with them :mad:

BenMcr 12-04-2010 17:08

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Well I got a Desire on Saturday and it certainly lives up to it's name.

TAZMANUK 12-04-2010 17:40

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I wonder what deal virgin mobile can do me on that phone when my 18 months contract comes to an end with them, i currently have the nokia 5800 xpress music phone

Stephen 12-04-2010 17:52

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34999888)
Well I got a Desire on Saturday and it certainly lives up to it's name.

Got my Desire on Friday after managing to get out of my O2 contract :) Its a lovely phone.

webrosc 13-04-2010 16:19

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Did you get a memory card in the box?

greyfox1974 13-04-2010 16:49

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
wish vm would come out with the apple and most of the vm handset's are totaly crap any ways it only take the 14 months to get the tocco ultra which as a crap phone i had 1 how got the lg viewty smart which i dont likes

Stephen 13-04-2010 17:31

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Yes there is a 4GB Micro SD card in the phone as standard.

Vrigin have now got a lot of decent handsets with more on the way.

Ben B 13-04-2010 17:34

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Do Virgin use T-Mobile's or 3's 3G network cause I was looking into switching to Virgin Mobile but when I popped a 3 SIM card in my phone, there was either no 3G signal or it was very weak. In fact the only decent 3G signal I can seem to get at home is O2 (My current network) and Orange.

Stephen 13-04-2010 17:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Its T-Mobiles network that VM use.

Ben B 13-04-2010 17:56

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Right, thanks :) I was getting quite confused though cause I read that T-Mobile use 3's network for 3G and their own for 2G

greyfox1974 13-04-2010 18:50

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35000597)
Yes there is a 4GB Micro SD card in the phone as standard.

Vrigin have now got a lot of decent handsets with more on the way.




it says on vm website the tocco ultra with 16gb memory lol

Peter_ 13-04-2010 18:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greyfox1974 (Post 35000649)
it says on vm website the tocco ultra with 16gb memory lol

I got the Nokia 5800 with a 16Gb card as well.

Stephen 14-04-2010 11:42

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greyfox1974 (Post 35000649)
it says on vm website the tocco ultra with 16gb memory lol

So lol, That phone is terrible, I would rather have a better phone with a smaller mem card ;) Its easy enough to buy a new card though.

webrosc 14-04-2010 16:54

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
I'm close to changing over to virgin from orange to get desire :)
Do i have to get the PAC code from orange before i call virgin to arrange the new contract? i've never done this before, been with orange around 12 years now.

musicbravo 14-04-2010 17:17

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Well just so you all know I got my X10 on Orange and have only found one fault with it thus far and that is the battery. first few charges could only get about 9 hours out of the phone, but after a few full drains and recharges, battery will probably last a day and a half with moderate use. Not brilliant I know but liveable. Lets just hope it gets OS 2.1 or 2.2 soon so I can enjoy even better features. Android rules and at least you can choose which form it comes in.

Stephen 14-04-2010 17:40

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webrosc (Post 35001208)
I'm close to changing over to virgin from orange to get desire :)
Do i have to get the PAC code from orange before i call virgin to arrange the new contract? i've never done this before, been with orange around 12 years now.

You can do it either way.

Setup the new contract and then get the PAC code, give it to Virgin and the port will complete in roughly 72hrs.

Or Call Orange get the PAC code and arrange the new contract and port at the same time.

zing_deleted 14-04-2010 17:53

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 35001218)
Well just so you all know I got my X10 on Orange and have only found one fault with it thus far and that is the battery. first few charges could only get about 9 hours out of the phone, but after a few full drains and recharges, battery will probably last a day and a half with moderate use. Not brilliant I know but liveable. Lets just hope it gets OS 2.1 or 2.2 soon so I can enjoy even better features. Android rules and at least you can choose which form it comes in.


whats your impressions of the screen? The idea of the whole phone being plastic is a nightmare to me

musicbravo 14-04-2010 18:27

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Screen seems fine, if a little too attracted to grease (Buying some matt screen protectors to combat that. The virtual keyboard appears to work fine, although some have reported can be a bit inaccurate towards the edges of the screen (Not had this problem myself) There is a firmware revision already out to deal with a dark camera issue but this hasn't filtered down to Orange yet. Timescape and Mediascape are fab.

soup dragon 14-04-2010 21:50

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webrosc (Post 35001208)
I'm close to changing over to virgin from orange to get desire :)
Do i have to get the PAC code from orange before i call virgin to arrange the new contract? i've never done this before, been with orange around 12 years now.

I rang Orange yesterday as my contract is over and they offerred me the desire for free, 400 mins, unlimited txts, unlimited internet (500Mb) for £22.50 or £17.50 if I pay £60 for the handset. Both 24 mth contracts. Only down side is they were out of stock but due more in this week.:dozey:

Peter_ 14-04-2010 23:34

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soup dragon (Post 35001386)
I rang Orange yesterday as my contract is over and they offerred me the desire for free, 400 mins, unlimited txts, unlimited internet (500Mb) for £22.50 or £17.50 if I pay £60 for the handset. Both 24 mth contracts. Only down side is they were out of stock but due more in this week.:dozey:

Virgins offer is handset for free £30 for 800 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited broadband (1Gb) the link can be found HERE

Also on a 24 month contract.

zing_deleted 14-04-2010 23:53

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
why does it say unlimited web access for 30p per day but then says unlimited web access as part of your contract?

Ben B 14-04-2010 23:54

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Presumably if you go over the FUP it will cost you 30p a day to use it

Peter_ 15-04-2010 00:00

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35001478)
why does it say unlimited web access for 30p per day but then says unlimited web access as part of your contract?

I know before my present contract I was charged 30p a day if I went online with my old phone but I pay nothing extra as long as I do not go over 1Gb a month under my present contract.

webrosc 15-04-2010 00:29

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soup dragon (Post 35001386)
I rang Orange yesterday as my contract is over and they offerred me the desire for free, 400 mins, unlimited txts, unlimited internet (500Mb) for £22.50 or £17.50 if I pay £60 for the handset. Both 24 mth contracts. Only down side is they were out of stock but due more in this week.:dozey:

I didn't know orange were getting the desire, they don't have it on the orange shop, but then it still shows march's special offer there.

I think i'll goto virgin anyway as i'll get the free landline to virgin mobile calls, plus they do they unlimited internet (1Gb) and i think it was mentioned the phone is free on the £30 contract, but virgin media customers get it free on the £25 contract aswell

Got just over a month to decide now, anyone know if orange charge extra to end the contract a little early?

Peter_ 15-04-2010 00:32

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webrosc (Post 35001503)
but virgin media customers get it free on the £25 contract aswell

Here is that offer and the only difference is the minutes go down to 600 from 800

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...efamily3_apr10

webrosc 15-04-2010 00:35

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
i'm sure i read it in one of the threads about virgin mobile doing deals for excising virgin media customers


Yup ......Examples (other tariff options available)

* On the new Pay Monthly range, customers will be able to get a handset such as the forthcoming HTC Desire for free on an exceptional £30 per month tariff complete with 800 minutes and unlimited texts and web over 24 months. Existing Virgin Media customers will be able take it on a £25 tariff offering 600 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited web, but also benefit from unlimited calls to other Virgin Mobiles, and free calls from home phones to Virgin Mobiles.

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...ews&id=1407072
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/93...le-market.html

Didn't notice the lower mins part, but i hardly makes calls as it is lol

zing_deleted 15-04-2010 01:33

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35001480)
Presumably if you go over the FUP it will cost you 30p a day to use it

but its not very clear again is it? do you not think VM should be clearer when it comes to their advertising practices? it all seems underhanded to me

Jimmy-J 15-04-2010 02:25

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35001520)
but its not very clear again is it? do you not think VM should be clearer when it comes to their advertising practices? it all seems underhanded to me

Yeah, because their meaning of the word "unlimited" (in this case) is limited to 500mb / 1gb. So they should replace it with "Limited" or remove the word altogether. as "Limited" is what they are really saying. It's false advertising.

Stephen 15-04-2010 11:03

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35001520)
but its not very clear again is it? do you not think VM should be clearer when it comes to their advertising practices? it all seems underhanded to me

Its seems clear to me. If you don't pick a tariff with Unlimited Web access then you can go online with your phone or pay as you go handset for only 30p per day.

musicbravo 16-04-2010 18:23

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Battery life on x10 now looking 36 hours plus

zing_deleted 16-04-2010 18:42

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35001603)
Its seems clear to me. If you don't pick a tariff with Unlimited Web access then you can go online with your phone or pay as you go handset for only 30p per day.

all the tariffs on the link say unlimited web access and there is no option for pay as you go on the page that was linked to so how you gonna pick a tariff that doesnt have it included? Clear as mud mate standard VM

dilli-theclaw 17-04-2010 10:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34999888)
Well I got a Desire on Saturday and it certainly lives up to it's name.

I got one yesterday. Now it is very good and thankfully Punky got it talking fir me which is brilliant. But at the moment I'm a little overwhelmed by all the stuff it can do. Mind you I'm sure I'll get there :)

the only odd thing was it would see my wifi at home until I put a sim card in it.

Stephen 17-04-2010 17:05

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35002595)
all the tariffs on the link say unlimited web access and there is no option for pay as you go on the page that was linked to so how you gonna pick a tariff that doesnt have it included? Clear as mud mate standard VM

They need to tidy up the pages a bit, but even looking at it its pretty simple imo.

If you don't have the unltd web then its 30p per day for up to 25MB.

If you have unltd web ignore the 30p a day messages.

webrosc 17-04-2010 17:31

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
That makes more sense :)
I was wondering the same thing http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/93...-internet.html maybe my other thread should be deleted or merged

zing_deleted 17-04-2010 18:42

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35003294)
They need to tidy up the pages a bit, but even looking at it its pretty simple imo.

If you don't have the unltd web then its 30p per day for up to 25MB.

If you have unltd web ignore the 30p a day messages.

Dude I aint thick....

All I am doing is pointing out VM ineptitude when it comes to clarity in billing.Just funny how all the tarrifs state unlimited net but there is a fee for net of 30p a day stuck there on the page

greyfox1974 17-04-2010 20:53

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003350)
Dude I aint thick....

All I am doing is pointing out VM ineptitude when it comes to clarity in billing.Just funny how all the tarrifs state unlimited net but there is a fee for net of 30p a day stuck there on the page



no it aint not all of the tarrifs have unlimited net on the 24 month the £10 £15 n the £20 dont have it on the 18 month it's the same

zing_deleted 17-04-2010 21:08

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greyfox1974 (Post 35003431)
no it aint not all of the tarrifs have unlimited net on the 24 month the £10 £15 n the £20 dont have it on the 18 month it's the same

please click this link http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewP...1-50C976E6860E . This is the link that was given earlier. In this link you will find the information to which I have reffered to.

When you click the link and look at the information you will see 2 lots of tarrifs offered in the link information. One for 24 months and one for 18 months. All tarrifs mention in the link come with Unlimited Net

When you click the link you do not find from that link any information at all about lower costing tarrifs. This phone may well be available on other tarrifs but there is no information of these tarrifs as far as I can see when you follow the link

So and I will try to make this as simple to understand as possible . When you click that link you find to lists of tarrifs both lists of tarrifs show all have unlimited net. You also have listed in this information the 30p deal per day for net.

Now if there are other tarrifs not shown on the site where the 30p per day internet charge applies then that still proves my point about Virgin Media's inability to show clear pricing with their offers

Just to note did you click the link lol lol

Peter_ 17-04-2010 21:11

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Well I do not get charged for internet as I am on unlimited, but before I was on this contract it did cost 30p a day for internet access.

Absolutely nothing to do with Virginmedia by the way we have nothing to do with Virgin Mobile.

greyfox1974 17-04-2010 21:17

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003446)
please click this link http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewP...1-50C976E6860E . This is the link that was given earlier. In this link you will find the information to which I have reffered to.

When you click the link and look at the information you will see 2 lots of tarrifs offered in the link information. One for 24 months and one for 18 months. All tarrifs mention in the link come with Unlimited Net

When you click the link you do not find from that link any information at all about lower costing tarrifs. This phone may well be available on other tarrifs but there is no information of these tarrifs as far as I can see when you follow the link

So and I will try to make this as simple to understand as possible . When you click that link you find to lists of tarrifs both lists of tarrifs show all have unlimited net. You also have listed in this information the 30p deal per day for net.

Now if there are other tarrifs not shown on the site where the 30p per day internet charge applies then that still proves my point about Virgin Media's inability to show clear pricing with their offers

Just to note did you click the link lol lol



heres the link i use

https://www.virginmobile.com/vm/payMonthlyTariffs.do

zing_deleted 17-04-2010 21:24

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35003448)
Well I do not get charged for internet as I am on unlimited, but before I was on this contract it did cost 30p a day for internet access.

Absolutely nothing to do with Virginmedia by the way we have nothing to do with Virgin Mobile.

im going to cry in a minute lol

You posted a link to the HTC Desire everything I have said to do with pricing reffers to information provided in your link.

I do not give a flying hoo harr about 30p net on pay as you go as thats not what ive been talking about . I fully accept the existance of this 30p per day net charge but all the listed tarrifs for the HTC Desire say Unlimited Net. Now I also realise its subject to a FUP and if you go over said FUP I can understand you would get charged 30p per day. But what I am pointing out is it says Unlimited Net and it also says 30p Per day net charge the 2 things do not go hand in hand either its a Limited internet included package and any usage over the limit will cost 30p or its an Unlimited internet package.

I really really really wish did not treat me like a fool ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by greyfox1974 (Post 35003456)

ok I clicked your link and looked at the £10 24 month tarrif you mentioned and guess what?? the HTC Desire isnt there

I then clicked on the £15 24 month Tarrif and low and behold the HTC Desire is not there.

I then clicked on the first £20 24 Tarrif and can you guess what comes next?yes no HTC desire

Do I need to goto the 18 month Tarrifs now or do you catch my drift?

---------- Post added at 20:24 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

Finally found one the 30p charge applies to the £20 18 month tarrif but they want £399 for the phone lol

Peter_ 17-04-2010 21:30

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003457)
im going to cry in a minute lol

You posted a link to the HTC Desire everything I have said to do with pricing reffers to information provided in your link.

I do not give a flying hoo harr about 30p net on pay as you go as thats not what ive been talking about . I fully accept the existance of this 30p per day net charge but all the listed tarrifs for the HTC Desire say Unlimited Net. Now I also realise its subject to a FUP and if you go over said FUP I can understand you would get charged 30p per day. But what I am pointing out is it says Unlimited Net and it also says 30p Per day net charge the 2 things do not go hand in hand either its a Limited internet included package and any usage over the limit will cost 30p or its an Unlimited internet package.

I really really really wish did not treat me like a fool ;)

---------- Post added at 20:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:17 ----------



ok I clicked your link and looked at the £10 24 month tarrif you mentioned and guess what?? the HTC Desire isnt there

I then clicked on the £15 24 month Tarrif and low and behold the HTC Desire is not there.

I then clicked on the first £20 24 Tarrif and can you guess what comes next?yes no HTC desire

Do I need to goto the 18 month Tarrifs now or do you catch my drift?

---------- Post added at 20:24 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

Finally found one the 30p charge applies to the £20 18 month tarrif but they want £399 for the phone lol

It is such a well laid out website with everything logical and easy to access.:D

zing_deleted 17-04-2010 22:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35003473)
It is such a well laid out website with everything logical and easy to access.:D

lol yeah never seen one so good lol lol

greyfox1974 17-04-2010 22:36

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003509)
lol yeah never seen one so good lol lol



And they just rip ppl off with the prices you as to pay for the fone

Stephen 18-04-2010 19:13

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003457)
im going to cry in a minute lol

You posted a link to the HTC Desire everything I have said to do with pricing reffers to information provided in your link.

I do not give a flying hoo harr about 30p net on pay as you go as thats not what ive been talking about . I fully accept the existance of this 30p per day net charge but all the listed tarrifs for the HTC Desire say Unlimited Net. Now I also realise its subject to a FUP and if you go over said FUP I can understand you would get charged 30p per day. But what I am pointing out is it says Unlimited Net and it also says 30p Per day net charge the 2 things do not go hand in hand either its a Limited internet included package and any usage over the limit will cost 30p or its an Unlimited internet package.

I really really really wish did not treat me like a fool ;)

---------- Post added at 20:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:17 ----------



ok I clicked your link and looked at the £10 24 month tarrif you mentioned and guess what?? the HTC Desire isnt there

I then clicked on the £15 24 month Tarrif and low and behold the HTC Desire is not there.

I then clicked on the first £20 24 Tarrif and can you guess what comes next?yes no HTC desire

Do I need to goto the 18 month Tarrifs now or do you catch my drift?

---------- Post added at 20:24 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ----------

Finally found one the 30p charge applies to the £20 18 month tarrif but they want £399 for the phone lol

What people were stating is that there are tariffs without unltd web included. It seems to appear on all phone pages even though some phones are only available on Tariffs with included web access due to the all ways on web that is needed ie the Desire.

Also I never insinuated you were thick in my earlier post.

zing_deleted 18-04-2010 19:42

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
do I really have to go through all that stuff about the link again?

Peter_ 18-04-2010 20:24

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35003968)
do I really have to go through all that stuff about the link again?

You can get it here for £184.99 with unlimited internet access so you are required to pay 30p a day for it. http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewP...talogue=online

zing_deleted 18-04-2010 20:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35003988)
You can get it here for £184.99 with unlimited internet access so you are required to pay 30p a day for it. http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewP...talogue=online

thats a link to a different phone. You linked to the HTC Desire originally. It was to that page the one which you linked to that I have been referring to all along . I had to go hunting to find a HTC Desire deal that didnt have unlimited texts and I admitted a few posts up that I found one.

Your link in your post here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35001462-post50.html HTC Desire not the HTC HD2

I am clearly wasting my time here

Peter_ 18-04-2010 21:02

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35004008)
thats a link to a different phone. You linked to the HTC Desire originally. It was to that page the one which you linked to that I have been referring to all along . I had to go hunting to find a HTC Desire deal that didnt have unlimited texts and I admitted a few posts up that I found one.

Your link in your post here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35001462-post50.html HTC Desire not the HTC HD2

I am clearly wasting my time here

The website is down and quite right Iinked to the wrong phone, my bad.:dunce:

zing_deleted 18-04-2010 21:04

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perhaps they are correcting their flawed information

BenMcr 18-04-2010 21:55

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicbravo (Post 35001218)
Lets just hope it gets OS 2.1 or 2.2 soon so I can enjoy even better features

According to this page http://topnews.co.uk/23550-sony-eric...ate-xperia-x10 it's not getting an update until September

webrosc 20-04-2010 17:11

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soup dragon (Post 35001386)
I rang Orange yesterday as my contract is over and they offerred me the desire for free, 400 mins, unlimited txts, unlimited internet (500Mb) for £22.50 or £17.50 if I pay £60 for the handset. Both 24 mth contracts. Only down side is they were out of stock but due more in this week.:dozey:

I just had a similar quote from orange, they said if i stay with them right now i can have the phone free, 600 mins, unlimited txt's and internet (500Mb) for £22.50
Looking on the virgin site their FUP is 1Gb (although they are giving 2Gb for 2 months to social network sites and youtube)
Think i'll wait a few days and get my PAC code, they wanted to charge me for it as i'm not into my last month just yet, roll on the 27th :)

BenMcr 22-04-2010 21:39

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 35004013)
perhaps they are correcting their flawed information

Yup http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewH...ringId=3246921

webrosc 30-04-2010 04:26

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Just to let you all know i got my Desire, been playing with it loads lol.
Found out its unlocked too, well atleast my orange sim will work in it for calls and texts, not sure about data as it didn't seem to be set up

TheDon 11-05-2010 15:44

Re: Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
 
Ordered a Desire on sunday, it came monday. Seriously impressed with that. I've never ordered something at the weekend and had it turn up next day before, and usually when I upgrade my phone it takes up to a week for them to actually get it to me. Great service so far hope they keep it up.


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