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Virgin launch a range of Android handsets
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Hot on the heels of the recently launched LG InTouch Max, Virgin Media has secured a range of new Android™ handsets for customers looking for the best in mobile entertainment and browsing on the move. With thousands of apps, widgets and games, handsets based on Google’s Android phone operating system have been taking the UK by storm and Virgin Media has secured some of the latest and greatest to date. Including HTC Desire and Sony Ericsson X10 ;) |
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REALLY want to get a X10 now :)
Does it actually have the sliding keyboard that it was expected to have? |
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:D thanks for this info ben, more reason for me to swap to virgin me thinks
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The HTC looks nice . The devs are trying to get android ported to the HD2 hope they manage.
---------- Post added at 16:35 ---------- Previous post was at 16:31 ---------- http://www.htc.com/www/product/desir...ification.html impressive spec list on the HTC 1 ghz cpu 576 meg ram gotta add microsd storage though internal sat nav Gsensor proximity sensor ambient light sensor compass ---------- Post added at 16:38 ---------- Previous post was at 16:35 ---------- http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsso...a_x10-2964.php SE same cpu better camera no g sensor though no sat nav bigger screen but no LED I personally theink the HTC wins |
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I currently have the HTC HD2 after swapping from the Palm Pre due to various issues, and am really interested in the Desire. Similar specs to the HD2 but smaller screen and Android instead of the horrible Win Mo 6.5 which is the only problem I have with the HD2.
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hows the android phone gonna be different? its still got sense so its the same front end and winmo 6.5.* has an easy to use scrolling menu behind sense hardly any different to android afaik so you hardly see any win mo stuff
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Well simply for the better OS. There are still plenty of Apps that still have the Win Mo interface and they suck, ie outlook and all the settings once you get passed the flashy Sense. Also the Windows Marketplace is rubbish.
Sense only covers so much. Once you get into to the programs and most of the settings its still plain old Mon Mob and looks the same as it did 3 years ago. The scrolling menu is only on the main 'desktop' screen. |
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then why did you get that phone? if as you say you have experience of win mo and didnt like it then and all the reviews written by win mo haters say its still the same why pick that phone? if you like Android so much why didnt you get an Android phone?
I like win mo I chose a win mo phone I certainly would not get a phone with an os on I dont like seems crazy??? |
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The X10 does have sat nav via a free trial provided by wisepilot and then after that you should be able to use google maps for android which supports turn by turn. This is further backed up by one of SE's own demo videos which demonstrates augmented reality (This relies on GPS for accuracy). As for LED do you mean on the camera? In which case no it doesn't but what it does have is a photo light which although LED based is a bit brighter. http://www.sonyericsson.com/pulse/as...10/X10_PRO.pdf -Source from manufacturers website http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/prod...10?cc=gb&lc=en - Offical X10 webpage I think most android phones actually are on a level playing field and it all depends what specific hardware features you are after that could make the difference |
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I did look at the SE site but was confronted with a flash interface that I could not be bothered to look beyond.
HTC has a OLED screen which is enough to win it for me |
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What the LED screen would win you over on its own????
Battery life is better on the X10 despite having a TFT screen |
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Battery life on the HTC will be improved by new radio installs. Also the HTC will have a lot of Devs working to improve it |
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Basically I think my next phone will be the X10, been following its progress for months and along with the HTC and the Droid they look like cracking units. Also wait for Mr jobs to spit his dummy out again as he is currently trying to sue HTC over copyright infringment (as a back handed way of getting at google for getting HTC to build the Nexus 1 (this bit is purely my speculation))
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I'm going to go for the Desire. From what I've read the Sense UI is better than the tweaks Sony have done.
Also at the moment I think the X10 is still running Android 1.6 whereas the Desire is launching with 2.1 EDIT: 6,666th post ;) |
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Well I have a couple of months left on my contract but it does look like I'll be able to get a nice phone :)
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Do you mean like the equivalents of Sony's 5 face detection, timescape and mediascape etc? +most features could be available by downloading equivalent apps via the ever growing Android market ---------- Post added at 21:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:03 ---------- Quote:
Though SE being SE the upgrade could take as long as VM took to make good a 'coming soon...' in the good old days ;) |
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I'm still stuck on 1.5 on the T-Mobile Pulse I've got - which is why I'm going for the Desire (plus swapping back to Virgin)
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As you said the phones are pretty equal the SE has a better camera and the HTC has an OLED screen and quite a large community of devs who hack the phones release updates for radios and other stuff so for me the HTC wins
Battery wise my HD2's battery on stock rom and Tmobiles out of date rom didnt last a day now with none stock rom and new radio driver it lasts over 2 days( with normal use) |
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Cool beans lets just hope the development of the platform in general keeps going on and someone at the U.S patent office stops Mr Jobs filing such abiguous patents that ruin competition and allow him to jump on anything remotely innovative produced by a company other than his.
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I do really like the phone but there isn't a lot of Win Mo apps out there. Also O2 are still on an old software version and the phone can be a bit unstable. If they don't sort this soon I want the Desire. |
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http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ is good for WinMo apps, some are terrible, but there are a few gems |
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there are more win mo apps than you may think. Besides its still just a phone lol
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Ben,
Do you know when the HTC Desire or X10 will become available on Virgin?:confused: |
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By the 7th I think
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Thanks Ben!
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Is there a best time to ring them? I am wanting to move my daughter to Virgin from T-Mobile and I have been quoted a different figure from the website completely. I'm going to try again but would prefer someone who isn't at the end of an extremely bad line and doesn't stick to the script!
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My G1 is close to being out of contract; its been rooted and overclocked but if Flash fails to be delivered on older, RAM starved droids then I'll be looking at the X10 from VM.
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I would go for the Desire from HTC rather than the X10.
Played with both and the X10 is a bit clunky. |
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I ordered the X10 for my daughter yesterday and it arrived today. It seems OK - not as large as I thought it would be. Personally, I would have gone for the Desire but you just can't tell them can you? She likes it.
My main 'worry' is if the Desire is anything like my other daughters HTC, it would at least have a glass screen rather than the X10s plastic one. Also, oddly annoying is the lack of pinch / pull for zooming in and out on the X10 but having read up - it's apparently 'a feature' i.e. it doesn't work now and never will due to HW limitations. Also a bit gutted at the non-budging of the £30 pm tariff on Virgins behalf considering we have the VIP pack and also another 2 mobiles with them :mad: |
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Well I got a Desire on Saturday and it certainly lives up to it's name.
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I wonder what deal virgin mobile can do me on that phone when my 18 months contract comes to an end with them, i currently have the nokia 5800 xpress music phone
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Did you get a memory card in the box?
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wish vm would come out with the apple and most of the vm handset's are totaly crap any ways it only take the 14 months to get the tocco ultra which as a crap phone i had 1 how got the lg viewty smart which i dont likes
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Yes there is a 4GB Micro SD card in the phone as standard.
Vrigin have now got a lot of decent handsets with more on the way. |
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Do Virgin use T-Mobile's or 3's 3G network cause I was looking into switching to Virgin Mobile but when I popped a 3 SIM card in my phone, there was either no 3G signal or it was very weak. In fact the only decent 3G signal I can seem to get at home is O2 (My current network) and Orange.
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Its T-Mobiles network that VM use.
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Right, thanks :) I was getting quite confused though cause I read that T-Mobile use 3's network for 3G and their own for 2G
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it says on vm website the tocco ultra with 16gb memory lol |
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I'm close to changing over to virgin from orange to get desire :)
Do i have to get the PAC code from orange before i call virgin to arrange the new contract? i've never done this before, been with orange around 12 years now. |
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Well just so you all know I got my X10 on Orange and have only found one fault with it thus far and that is the battery. first few charges could only get about 9 hours out of the phone, but after a few full drains and recharges, battery will probably last a day and a half with moderate use. Not brilliant I know but liveable. Lets just hope it gets OS 2.1 or 2.2 soon so I can enjoy even better features. Android rules and at least you can choose which form it comes in.
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Setup the new contract and then get the PAC code, give it to Virgin and the port will complete in roughly 72hrs. Or Call Orange get the PAC code and arrange the new contract and port at the same time. |
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whats your impressions of the screen? The idea of the whole phone being plastic is a nightmare to me |
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Screen seems fine, if a little too attracted to grease (Buying some matt screen protectors to combat that. The virtual keyboard appears to work fine, although some have reported can be a bit inaccurate towards the edges of the screen (Not had this problem myself) There is a firmware revision already out to deal with a dark camera issue but this hasn't filtered down to Orange yet. Timescape and Mediascape are fab.
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Also on a 24 month contract. |
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why does it say unlimited web access for 30p per day but then says unlimited web access as part of your contract?
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Presumably if you go over the FUP it will cost you 30p a day to use it
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I think i'll goto virgin anyway as i'll get the free landline to virgin mobile calls, plus they do they unlimited internet (1Gb) and i think it was mentioned the phone is free on the £30 contract, but virgin media customers get it free on the £25 contract aswell Got just over a month to decide now, anyone know if orange charge extra to end the contract a little early? |
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http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...efamily3_apr10 |
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i'm sure i read it in one of the threads about virgin mobile doing deals for excising virgin media customers
Yup ......Examples (other tariff options available) * On the new Pay Monthly range, customers will be able to get a handset such as the forthcoming HTC Desire for free on an exceptional £30 per month tariff complete with 800 minutes and unlimited texts and web over 24 months. Existing Virgin Media customers will be able take it on a £25 tariff offering 600 minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited web, but also benefit from unlimited calls to other Virgin Mobiles, and free calls from home phones to Virgin Mobiles. http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...ews&id=1407072 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/93...le-market.html Didn't notice the lower mins part, but i hardly makes calls as it is lol |
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Battery life on x10 now looking 36 hours plus
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the only odd thing was it would see my wifi at home until I put a sim card in it. |
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If you don't have the unltd web then its 30p per day for up to 25MB. If you have unltd web ignore the 30p a day messages. |
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That makes more sense :)
I was wondering the same thing http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/93...-internet.html maybe my other thread should be deleted or merged |
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All I am doing is pointing out VM ineptitude when it comes to clarity in billing.Just funny how all the tarrifs state unlimited net but there is a fee for net of 30p a day stuck there on the page |
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no it aint not all of the tarrifs have unlimited net on the 24 month the £10 £15 n the £20 dont have it on the 18 month it's the same |
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When you click the link and look at the information you will see 2 lots of tarrifs offered in the link information. One for 24 months and one for 18 months. All tarrifs mention in the link come with Unlimited Net When you click the link you do not find from that link any information at all about lower costing tarrifs. This phone may well be available on other tarrifs but there is no information of these tarrifs as far as I can see when you follow the link So and I will try to make this as simple to understand as possible . When you click that link you find to lists of tarrifs both lists of tarrifs show all have unlimited net. You also have listed in this information the 30p deal per day for net. Now if there are other tarrifs not shown on the site where the 30p per day internet charge applies then that still proves my point about Virgin Media's inability to show clear pricing with their offers Just to note did you click the link lol lol |
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Well I do not get charged for internet as I am on unlimited, but before I was on this contract it did cost 30p a day for internet access.
Absolutely nothing to do with Virginmedia by the way we have nothing to do with Virgin Mobile. |
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heres the link i use https://www.virginmobile.com/vm/payMonthlyTariffs.do |
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You posted a link to the HTC Desire everything I have said to do with pricing reffers to information provided in your link. I do not give a flying hoo harr about 30p net on pay as you go as thats not what ive been talking about . I fully accept the existance of this 30p per day net charge but all the listed tarrifs for the HTC Desire say Unlimited Net. Now I also realise its subject to a FUP and if you go over said FUP I can understand you would get charged 30p per day. But what I am pointing out is it says Unlimited Net and it also says 30p Per day net charge the 2 things do not go hand in hand either its a Limited internet included package and any usage over the limit will cost 30p or its an Unlimited internet package. I really really really wish did not treat me like a fool ;) ---------- Post added at 20:20 ---------- Previous post was at 20:17 ---------- Quote:
I then clicked on the £15 24 month Tarrif and low and behold the HTC Desire is not there. I then clicked on the first £20 24 Tarrif and can you guess what comes next?yes no HTC desire Do I need to goto the 18 month Tarrifs now or do you catch my drift? ---------- Post added at 20:24 ---------- Previous post was at 20:20 ---------- Finally found one the 30p charge applies to the £20 18 month tarrif but they want £399 for the phone lol |
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And they just rip ppl off with the prices you as to pay for the fone |
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Also I never insinuated you were thick in my earlier post. |
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do I really have to go through all that stuff about the link again?
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Your link in your post here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35001462-post50.html HTC Desire not the HTC HD2 I am clearly wasting my time here |
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perhaps they are correcting their flawed information
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Looking on the virgin site their FUP is 1Gb (although they are giving 2Gb for 2 months to social network sites and youtube) Think i'll wait a few days and get my PAC code, they wanted to charge me for it as i'm not into my last month just yet, roll on the 27th :) |
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Just to let you all know i got my Desire, been playing with it loads lol.
Found out its unlocked too, well atleast my orange sim will work in it for calls and texts, not sure about data as it didn't seem to be set up |
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Ordered a Desire on sunday, it came monday. Seriously impressed with that. I've never ordered something at the weekend and had it turn up next day before, and usually when I upgrade my phone it takes up to a week for them to actually get it to me. Great service so far hope they keep it up.
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