Planets Orbit Not Because Of Gravity Energy But Because Of Griff Energy
 

Why does the moon not fly off?

Why do astronauts float in space?

Objects fall to earth at the same speed?, All of this does not make sense.

If astronauts "float" in space, then there is no gravity in space. So whats the moon doing? I thought there is no gravity in space? Very confusing :)

It may be that each planet or moon is held in a gravity ring and between these rings is no gravity. I doubt this is true.

Or is there such a thing I would like to call "Griff" in our universe that keeps things draging along such as the moon orbiting the earth while the earth orbits the sun. (Griff Energy Theory, Paul Garry Griffiths, England, United Kingdom, 20 February 2010,)

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Why?

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Strange post

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[QUOTE=gafferuk;34966704]Why does the moon not fly off?

Why do astronauts float in space?



Why do birds suddenly appear
Every time you are near?
Just like me, they long to be
Close to you.

Why do stars fall down from the sky
Every time you walk by?
Just like me, they long to be
Close to you.


;)

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and not the first from this poster.

I think a grasp(or at the very least a quick read) of some Of Issac Newton's laws are needed.

Basically and very roughly, if an object has enough mass, then it will attract other objects towards it. The moon is close enough to be attracted by the earth's pull.

This also explains why the planets orbit the sun, they are "held" in this orbit by the sun's gravity.


I think the observation and problems that you have explained by "Griff" were explained by Newton and Einstein.

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[QUOTE=papa smurf;34966735]lol, and might I add:

Sun is shining in the sky, There ain't a cloud in sight
It's stopped rainin', Everybody's in a play
And don't you know, It's a beautiful new day....hey hey

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If i noticed my kids posting stuff like this i would be very worried as to what they were smoking :LOL:

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Anyway you should already know those planets do what dilli says!!! Nothing more ;) :tu:

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Gravity actually is one of the scientific concepts that is falling over. There simply is not enough of it to do what science says it does ie holding the planets in orbit. I was talking to my Dad recently and he is a physicist and he was explaining this to me. It just goes to show science does not hold all the answers

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Good Griff! What a weird post!

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No one claims it does. If it did, there would be no need to continue. ;)

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My point mainly being that gravity appears at first to be one of the simplist things but it turns out to be one of the most complicated


Wasnt gonna come in here and start spouting god ;)

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In answer to the op anyway
http://www.christa.org/gravity.htm#weightless in deep space…
There is also an interesting bit on the zero gravity myth

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There is loads of cool unexplained things in science, I forget all the details but if you split an atom and take two of the particles to opposite ends of the earth and start one spinning, the other will spin in the other direction at the exact same time at the exact same speed. :shocked:

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I was under the impression that astonauts 'float' because they are technically in 'freefall'

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If more people stopped watching vapid crap on the TV, and reading celebrity jizz mags like OK and Hello, and instead picked up a couple of popular science books (which try to explain in laymans term) how the laws of physics work. Then misnomers like "zero gravity" would be explained and understood. Its hardly Newtons fault, that several hundred years after his death, that some idiot coined a sexy, yet factualy incorrect phrase that is now part of everyday language.

To borrow a passage from the christian bible.... Seek and you shall find, ask and it shall be given unto you.

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Thanks for all trying to make me look the fool, but,

How can the moon be effected by gravity and not the astonaut? everything falls at the same speed!

Care to explain?

Gravity does not reach out that far so it must be something else, Griff!! You are not taking that from me! :)

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Both the moon AND the astronaut ARE effected by gravity - just to a different degree. You could start by reading the thread and paying attention to post 11 for example.

Personally I think you are just on a wind up.

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I'll tell you how I learned about gravity.... by choosing to study Physics as a GCSE, and later reading numerous books by learned and intelligent men who try to bring enlightenment to the ignorant....

As a starter for 10 I'll link some sites that explain gravity below, starting with the ever popular (but occasionally incorrect Wikipedia)....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...ational_theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%...al_gravitation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Introdu...ral_relativity

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question232.htm

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/l...ewtongrav.html

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/grav.html

There are many more sites online that can explain Gravity, but happy reading with the list above. ;)

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Get a Grip Griff.:D
How does gravity work?


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/02/45.jpg

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Because the moon has enough mass to show an attraction towards the earth, a person(even in a spacesuit) only has a very small percentage of mass compared to the moon.

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Your all are a bit stupid, if everything falls at the same speed, then size an wieight does not come in to it.

So how can the moon be effected by gravity and not the astronaut?

you can all throw links at me but none explain this!

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We are all a bit stupid? lol

Did you actually READ any of the links?

edit - yup definately on a wind up.

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Give ma a quote!

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No - READ the links. You asked for an explanation - you recieved several pointers in the right direction. READ them then come back.

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But I don't know what your on about.

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Yes you do, I'm not playing this game with you. You are acting like a three year old.

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Then I suggest that your either

a) Can't be bothered to read the info that has been linked to.

b) Are too stubborn to accept what your being told

c) Lack the mental capacity to comprehend the information

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things fall at the same speed, so that makes no sense! the astronaut is closer so should be effected more, but its only floating as theres no gravity away from the earth!

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That is because you are being a troll and you know it.;)

Try this link as I think it may be more the format you are looking for CLICK ME

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+1

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I win! Griff energy theory!

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There is no gravity.

The Earth sucks!

btw, re Moldova and Jon T - in total agreement (you have pulled me into your orbit ;))

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Crikey, Newton, Einstein and Hawking have all been bettered by a troll on an internet forum. You wouldn't like to help NASA with it's development program for the space shuttle replacement would you?

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Win what? A trip to the loony bin?

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what makes you think the astronaut is not affected by gravity?
astronauts DO NOT FLOAT they orbit the earth at around 17-18,000 mph the same speed as the vehicle that got them there

think of a piece of elastic with a ball tied to the end spin it round and the ball will "orbit" your hand spin it faster and the ball will get further away from your hand ,spin it fast enough and the elastic will break and the ball will shoot off out of "orbit" of your hand and into "deep space" ,....or the neighbours window

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Heres another of my theorys:

Infinite Or Not Infinite Universe? - The Simplist Largest

This evidance points to not infinite as Matter has to have ends.

The bounds of Space is infinite. Theres nothing stopping you travelling forward forever, as space is not matter so has no ends.

Space surrounds Matter (...Space-Universe-Space... Theory, Paul Garry Griffiths, United Kingdom, 16 February 2010,)

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Gentlemen, we are feeding the sub-bridge dweller.......

Desist, prithee.

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Gravity pulls, so the astronaut should be pulled to the earth, if he was closer he would, it's called falling!

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Actually you don't as your Griff energy/effect is totally forgetting about the centrifugal force that is counteracting the effect of the gravity on items in orbit. If though an astronaut or the moon wasn't in orbit (orbit being the act of rotating around another body) then yes they would drop at exactly the same speed towards earth until they hit some form of resistance like the atmosphere..

Now whilst you desperately go away to try and find some other piece of fiction to explain away centrifugal force let me remind you that the Griff effect has just been commuted to now mean the amount of minimum brain cells a human being can posses and still be able to type ;)

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No a trip to a new forum would be more fitting and below is a choice of 2.

http://trollz.forumotion.net/

http://www.fanpop.com/spots/trollz

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Gravity pulls, so the astronaut should be pulled to the earth, if he was closer he would, it's called falling!

but he is not falling because he is outside gravity!

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Nope as he's in orbit so the centrifugal force of him being in orbit counteracts the gravity..

Though you have just lowered the minimum brain cell count for the griff effect.. Well done :clap: Now can you lower it any more??

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Yep, another fine example of the Griff effect :D:D:D

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if he was close to the earth he would fall to the earth! explain this!

When he gets close to the earth, he starts to fall, the effect of becoming in to contact with gravity.

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Extremely easy, close to the earth the atmosphere resistance would slow him down thus cancelling the centrifugal effect of orbit hence he would drop to earth..

It's how a spaceship returns back to earth, they SLOW themselves down and they start dropping..

Now you are doing extremely well with this griff effect.. I believe you're now down to triple figures on the brain cell count and your IQ is a new negative world record :clap:

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You can reduce this down thus:

Let the force of gravity = -1

Let Centrifugal force = 1

If the end result is -1 the objects falls to earth, if the result is +1 the object is travels away from the earth, if the end result is 0, then the object stays where it is.

Force on the object, ie astronaut, is: Gravity+Centrifugal force = No movement
or..........-1+1=0

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no ,because he has enough mass and enough speed to stay at the same distance from earth ,if he speeds up he will move away from earth ,if he slows down he will move closer to earth .The same goes for all objects in space from the planets to the moon

you do realise that if your "griff energy" theory is correct then the bridge you live under will fall on your head cos there's no gravity to keep it up :rolleyes:

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Have a think about it.

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No I'm with gafferuk on this. There's scientific evidence to demonstrate how gravity works but that does mean it's right. :spin:

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if the man was close, he would fall to the earth.
if the man is far away, he floats.

does that not tell you THERE IS NOT ANY GRAVITY IN SPACE!

get a grip!

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I see the griff effect is starting to take it's toll, your word count per post is dropping.. Now it's time to turn off the computer and ask your 6 year old son the true effects of gravity and how it's counteracted by the force produced perpendicular to an object you are orbiting at speed

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Exactly!

Einstein and Newton were wasting their time.

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Cbeebies gone off the air, has it?

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I can also drive at great speeds around corners, up to the speed of my reactions!

I can bend enertia just like "bend it like beckham"

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Gravity extends throughout space, it just gets weaker the further you are away from a body in space. If you put a man at an exact point in space he would extremely slowly start being pulled towards the gravitational pull of the densest object around.

You can't see electrons floating round a 240v cable, but if you touch it it proves it's thier, the same way as the moon not floating away from the earth demonstrates gravity

No need to start talking to yourself!!!

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astronauts don't float in space

really you should go back to school this is stuff 10year olds do at school and manage to understand

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if the man was close, he would fall to the earth.
if the man is far away, he floats.

does that not tell you THERE IS NOT ANY GRAVITY IN SPACE! IT'S GRIFF ENERGY!

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so what do they do?

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Tinky Winky floated away and he's looking for an explanation :D

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Yes and he floats because there is a cancellation effect of his speed and the pull of gravity...

Repeating yourself and shouting isn't gonna change that..

PMSL!!!!

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They orbit the centre of mass of the galaxy they are in.

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Have you not heard the saying "outside the force of gravity?"

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if i jump on earth, i return to the earth. theres gravity! i lose force because of gravity!

out in space, i just float away!

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they are going really,really fast ,a bit like your car that you drive fast enough to bend inertia...and probably space and time aswell :rolleyes:

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I take that saying with others like "Jumping out of your skin" or "loud enough to wake the dead".. Just because it's a saying doesn't mean to say it's true..

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As it's going around in circles and achieving nothing due to the OP not listening to anybody, it may as well be closed anyway.

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please, please don't close it it's the best laugh i have had in ages :D

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Yes. I've also heard the phrase "would spin in his grave" - which is what Albert Einstein would be doing if he could read this nonsense.

Is there nothing more productive you could be doing with your time this morning ... like tidying your bedroom or doing your homework?

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Suppose there is that:D

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I think im wasting my time here but...

if i jump on earth, i return to the earth. theres gravity! i lose force because of gravity!

out in space, i just float away! i never get pulled to the earth because there is no gravity in space.

Newton did not have a rocket to test this.

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I don't know which is worse, the circular reasoning or the flat refusal to read any of the sources that would have cleared up the original question within a couple of hours of it being asked.

Either way, this thread is clearly going nowhere and I'm not about to sit here watching our members get wound up into the sort of feeding frenzy that requires infractions to be issued in order for calm to be restored.

Everybody move along please, there really is nothing to see here. Thread closed.