Free VM landline to VM mobile calls
 

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...040&highlight=

Just seen this on the press releases.

Well done Virgin, I can see how this could potentially boost the mobile platform profits by new subscribers but nevertheless its another good deal.

Duke

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can this not be changed to Free Landline to Virgin Mobile Calls

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Very good deal... will boost Virgin Media landline sign ups and Mobile. well done VM :)

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Shouldn't this also include free landline to tmobile calls too, since virginmobile uses them? ;)

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No it won't

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Just out of interest - if you have a ported number (i.e. number that was originally Orange and has now been ported to Virgin Mobile) will that also be free?

I know that some phone charging structures are based on the number called, and can't cope with ported numbers.

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I would assume so but I'm checking lol

Oh, and to make clear, the free calls apply for all customers who pay their line rental to VM - including National ADSL customers

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WooHoooo :) - cheers ;)

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Their sweetener worked. You all missed the 9% increase in line rental to pay for it.

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Source?

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The press release.

line rental is going up by 99p

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Thats not too bad. 99p is hardly going to make a difference if you take advantage of the free calls.

Duke

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It's also the first line rental increase in over 3 years I think

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No I didn't.

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I have no problems with it

Duke

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Line rental increase to the land line ? if so us peeps that dont call virgin mobiles get to foot the bill.

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i took out a new payg phone through vm last week for my son ,i have a contract vm mobile and a vm landline ,so they gave me free virgin to virgin ,including mobile calls then so i am a happy bunny anyway :D

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What exactly is 'line rental' anyway? Is it some form of unnessary tax that is just being dragged along into the 21st century because no one has questioned it?

I rent a line from where to where.

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it pays for the upkeep of the line from the exchange /green box or whatever to your house otherwise you would be responsible for any repairs to it in effect you are quite literaly renting it of your supplier for your personal use ..just like a house

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Seems rather steep to me for its purpose. How often in your lifetime of renting this line is it likely to get damaged! Certainly not £11-£12 pounds worth a month.

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Seems well worth it to me, ah well... C'est la vie.

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Time to get a large stick and start bashing the lines methinks :) i would like to see sparks on the floor like they have in hurricane affected places.

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They have probably made a deal with the orange-T-Mobile group to offer discounted termination fees from the Virgin Media network.

T-Mobile-Orange won't mind this because it boosts there market share (If) the techinique works. More subscribers means more revenue.

T-Mobile work better with Virgin Media in comparison to other phone firms, BT for example is always having disputes with T-Mobile as seen in consultations opened by Ofcom. And most of this is about termination rates.

A similar offering cheap calls to mobiles could be by BT to Hutchison 3G(3 Network) mobiles. Why do I think that? Because BT and 3 are on this thing about getting rid of mobile termination rates and to just prove a point, BT and 3 could copy this idea. We've already seen 3 offer free 3 to 3 calls as well as Free voicemail and Free Skype to Skype calls. Skype on 3 handsets can be used just like a normal voice call. So calling 3 handsets via skype either from a computer or another 3 handset is completely free.

Its a good move by 3 as the sound quality and performance of Skype on 3 handsets is perfect, however, it makes me laugh because 3 and BT are campaigning against high termination rates when BT has the highest telephone line rental and 3 has the highest mobile termination fees on UK mainland.

3 charge around 5p per minute termination fees, Virgin Media charges us nearly 20p per minute plus nearly 10p connection to call 3 phones, BT charge around the same. Pay As You Go services providers such as Orange charge 20p per minute. So the people who are really ripping us off is all the other. There is no reason to charge such high fees anymore and 5p per minute charged by 3 is nothing in comparison to what other service providers are charging us. The other networks charge around 3p to 4p termination rates and the other providers charges as much as 20p per minute for call such numbers, termination fees are nothing really, its just the service providers we use for calling mobiles charging us nearly 4 times as much as the termination fee!!!

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Did you get any clarification about ported number Ben?

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Sort of - the price change page http://www.virginmedia.com/myvirginm...ce-changes.php has this:

Please note that new activations (e.g. new connections or numbers ported into Virgin Mobile) may take up to 72 hours to be recorded by our landline billing systems. Calls made prior to the number being recorded will be charged at the standard rate.

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Just to clarify. This is for all telephone packages is it?

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Yes - you get the calls appropriate to your phone package. i.e. Weekends/Evening & Weekends/Unlimited

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What about business lines?? Which are basically on the same network

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It's a residential thing only - as Virgin Mobile don't offer business mobiles

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Ah I see. So on the M package it will free at weekends.

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Yup

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Quote from Virgin Media: "Launching on 1st April, Virgin Media will become the first phone provider in the UK to offer new and existing customers free home phone to mobile calls."

Well that's a bunch of bolony. The Post Office have been doing that for over a year now.

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the post office offer inclusive calls to mobiles not free

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Umm, ok. So you pay Virgin and they give you 'free' calls to mobiles or you pay the Post Office and they give you 'inclusive' calls to mobiles, and 0870/0845 and international for that matter.

But I think in this respect, the Post Office's "inclusive" means "free" unless I am missing something?

It is just that Virgin are saying it is 'pioneering' this and it's a 'first', yet the Post Office were giving people free/inclusive/included/not chargeable calls to mobiles a long time before VM were.

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no your definately missing something.. for example ....my sons payg virgin mobile has 200mins he calls me on my vm contract or house phone he will still have 200mins .All the other companies take the minuits used for that call of the allowance of minuits or charge extra outside the allowance because it is a mobile that has been called

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But there is no 'allowance' in this respect on the Post Office's landline package martyh. I know what you mean about getting x minutes free inclusive, but you don't get x number of minutes with the Post Office's landline package, you simply get free inclusive calls to mobiles from your home phone, albeit at the weekend only. It is just they don't call it free, they call it inclusive... as in 'inclusive' with your line rental.

This 'free landline to mobile calls' is exactly what Virgin are proposing to do as a 'first'. Honestly mate, it is right.

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I have just taken a look and neilo is right. It is just worded differently.

http://www.postoffice.co.uk/portal/p...paignid=PI0075

What is interesting is that the calls on a weekend are free to any UK network mobile.

Duke

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yeah i just checked and found same .some slight differences between the services but not much and obviously enough for virgin to claim it as a first which i think only applies to the xl and above package as the l package is limited to evenings and weekends and vm phones only

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??? I could understand that answer if it was free Mobile to landline calls, but not Landline to mobile which is what this thread is about... :rolleyes:

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I know, but it's obviously to push residential customers with landlines into swapping to Virgin Mobile.

There isn't the same need to offer it to businesses as there isn't a benefit to ntl:telewest business in doing so

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Business mobile products would have to be launched as a completely seperate product portfolio and most likely under the NTL Telewest Business Brand.

It would be most likely NTL Telewest Business would set up a new contract with T-Mobile/Orange to offer a complete range of converged products including:

Telephone lines
ISDN lines
Internet products
Mobile Internet and Data products
Mobile Voice services

But Business mobile services will definately not be under Virgin Mobile, not now it became part of Virgin Media, it wouldn't make sense to trade as NTL Telewest Business and offer Virgin Mobile.

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I normally would agree with that, but the pricing structure for VM is carried over to the business line.. The only thing that isn't is the timed inclusive calls (such as weekends/evening..hence I asked..

Anyway MIL has a vm mobile so will do a test after they instigate it :)

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Maybe also a carrot now to get people to take a landline too after using the stick for a while, to get back the hundreds of thousands of landline customers they lost when the prices kept rising and even BT became cheaper many many years back.