Where's our Obama?
 

With an election looming I am sitting here feeling not hope for future, but a sinking feeling that no matter who we elect the best we could hope for is a slightly different flavour of what we have now.

Where's our change?

Where's our hope?

Where's our Obama?

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I was listening to 'Red Ken' Livingstone today on the subject of Obama's presidency and he made what seemed like a valid point when he said that Obama's been hamstrung by a US Senate which is heavily 'influenced' by corporate America - hence the lack of progress on many key issues which don't suit the paymasters. Apparently it only takes 41 of the 100 senators to effectively block anything Obama wants to do so it's not difficult to imagine how this could be the case...

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Obama got to ambitious too early. The health care bill has really crippled his presidency, the republicans managed quite successfully to attach the world 'socialism' to it and organize the protests. Fox News and their allies attacked relentlessly. Don't know how he can do much now.

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Damien, you may find this of interest, and it may change your mind about his supposed "lack of progress".

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I think the sentiment of the OP is being expressed by an increasing number of people more because of their unrealistically high expectations than anything else. I hope Obama lives up to all the hype and justifies the faith so many people have put in him but I also know he's got his work cut out and feel those waivering US voters need to cut him some slack.

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America is probably asking the same, after all those promises of change and nothing happened.

He was just a novelty from the start "oh look this guys black he must be different" haha didn't work and the UK really doesn't need someone like obama....we need someone we can trust and make changes for the better and tackle the difficult problems of our society and we wont find that in the main two parties.

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Do you actually understand what your talking about? You could question the ability for Obama to make the changes and push them though but you can't really say he isn't trying to do anything. The things he has tried and the fact that he isn't isolating America from the entire world is a positive thing. I don't like your stupid race comment either, get over it.

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The only reason he is in power is because of the guilt surrounding his race - fact.

Reason why I don't like the man is because he has no spine, has lots of empty promises and isn't the second coming of jesus as predicted. Kissing the arse of people to make America seem less approachable doesn't hide what they really are.

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He provided universal health care.

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i think that is absolute rubbish ,the reason he got elected is because he won the most votes because people(black and white) liked his ideas and i think the last that would show any guilt about the treatment of blacks is america

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Not quite yet.

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The only reason he is in power is because of the republicans were unelectable - fact. Although it isn't. Because the reasons he got elected are many. Do you have anything to back up that rubbish?

I think he does have spine. Probably why he is having trouble at the moment. He wanted to reform health-care and attempted it. That itself requires some backbone because it was very unpopular.

You don't have the like him, many don't but you should at least offer valid reasons.

Only got elected because he is black? Utter, utter rubbish.

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Please the only reason he got into power was the bullying tactics used by his supporters "Oh your not supporting Obama then you must not like black people" etc. Misguided reparations :rolleyes:

The mans a joke

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:rolleyes:

Yes. Because Republicans don't use bullying tactics. I seem to remember a lot of people like you who seem to think the only reason a black man can ever be elected is because he is black.

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do you really think the american general population are that stupid his reforms are poular with them its the senate he has problems with because they are so stuck in their ways

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Anyway, back to the original question: Where's OUR Obama??? ;)

Let's hope he wasn't a certain T. Bliar......

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Anyway putting aside the colour of Obamas' skin i think the OP has a relevant question ,i think he means were is our young original go getting future prime minister going to come from ,is there anybody sitting on the back benches with some new ideas waiting for a chance to voice them ?,i can't think of anybody brave enough to take westminster by the balls and give it the shake up it needs

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He's some where in the Middle East using his winning smile to find a lasting peace to the Arab Israeli problem

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The only reason he is in power is because he isn't George W Bush, although even Bush never tried to bomb the moon so perhaps their are similarities....

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Hmm looks like I am not the only one then.....

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Obama got in because he was the only credible alternative to the Party of Bush. By that token, 'our Obama' is David Cameron.

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I'm not certain if we're actually that relevant anymore. Since we are now EU Airstrip 1 and our leaders largely emasculated surely the corporate money is now focussed on Brussels?

If there are any EurObamas out there they won't be wasting their time playing with a left-over Government that has to ask permission before they can even control their own borders or policing.

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Oh please.....

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It is true though. the whole world made an issue of things being different because he was black. you can't deny they did.

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Go DAVID! gO dAVID!

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is david ike still knocking about ?;)

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Wasn't he sectioned? :)

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perfect for the job then ;)

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We had our obama he was called tony blair and didn't that work out well for all if us. I never bought into all the hysteria about obama and from what i can see he isn't the great politician that some thought he was. Loving how the senate and in fact everyone and everything else is being blamed for why obama cannot implement his preferred program but surely all that proves is how politically naive obama was in thinking he could get so much change through.

I think race was an issue in his election campaign and having spoken to a couple of friends who live in the US there was an element of if you didn't like obama you had a problem with black people in general. Now i havn't been to the states in many many years so i can only take their word for it but from bits i saw of the election campaign race was more noticiable then it was before. A smurf would have got elected in that election people were completely fed up with bush and the republican party so the democrats had most of their work done before they even got started.

What do i want in our next leader simple a person that is honest, hard working, has integrity, will answer a damn question straight up and won't disappear everytime something goes wrong. Who best fits that all i know for sure right now is it isn't gordon brown and is a two horse race between david cameron and nick clegg neither of them being all the things i want.

Whatever happens as long as we are saved from the circus that became the american election that will make me mildly pleased.

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Well as Foreverwar proved earlier. He has actually been one of the most successful Presidents in getting bills though the senate and the house. The key policy is the health care bill, which due to fierce opposition from the right and commercial interests (remember the NHS is awful campaign?) was watered down. I think the fact he tried though is commendable. It's better than giving up because he might look unpopular as a result.

Race was a story but it's by no-means why he got elected. He got a landslide. It's part anti-Bush and part that Obama had a great campaign and an inspiring message. You have to remember there were a lot of people for whom his race counted against him and they were using the 'omg, if you don't vote for him people will call you a racist' line. It's actually an effective technique used by racists to try and validate their hatred.

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We have no "Obama".

Obama stood for, and personfied, change.

We have no one, I will not be voting this year as I really believe it does not matter who is in power this time round.

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I very much doubt there's a politician out there who fits that description.

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Im sure there are but such a quality is career limiting in politics.