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Hi All,

I need to reconnect my old virgin box and use as a freeview box.
Anyone know about any engineers I can call on privately in the Essex area?

Thank you

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Why don't you ring up and get VM to install it, shouldn't be to pricey??

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Do you have any VM services? If you have a VM telephone then you can go on the FREE tv pack.... give 'em a call on 150 to reconnect.

If you are not a subscriber anymore then you will only get BBC1-Ch5 and maybe a couple of other BBC channels

HTH

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Sounds familiar......."Cable Guy" can you hook me up?

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Thanks all for your contributions.

I currently don't have any services and will need to do this without virgin media except it's possible to book an engineer through them without subscribing.

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You are not permitted to connect any equipment to the Virgin Media cable network without a valid subscription.

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Sorry... no subscription...no services... VM will not connect that box without a valid subsciption.

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So basically your trying to obtain the service in an inapropriate manner??

Your looking for the local dodgepot to connect your service.

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Let's get a sense of perspective here - the man isn't trying to steal cable, he's asking if he can use an unsubscribed box to receive channels that are already free-to-view.

As it happens, that's not possible, but let's not crucify him for wanting to connect unsubscribed equipment when it's no more serious than attaching your telly direct to the cable to get the free analogue channels, or altering your cable lengths with DIY equipment ... neither of which are allowed by VM's T&Cs, but both of which are regularly encouraged and explained on this forum.

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Don't think it's quite like that though, he dosen't want to involve VM to have this installed. You can get the freeview option via VM if you have the phone line as well, but obviously he dosen't want this either,(please correct me on that one of course). So it would seem to me, he wants someone to install a stb without subscription,without a phone line, without VM knowing on the side so he dosen't pay for ANYTHING AT ALL except the guy he want to do it for him.

So all he has to do, ring VM get phone installed, get the freeview option as well, pays for phone line and calls, dosen't pay a subscription..everyone is happy.

Call me cynical but....

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My position is I have my broadband with Pipex (requires a BT line) as I use 8 blocks of static IP addresses (virgin media do not issue static addresses). I already have virgin media connections (boxes) in my house as I was a subscriber for 3 years but just need them relocated. Why am I being persecuted? Yes, I can easily ask for any of there packages but I don't buy want I don't need. No, I'm not a free loader!!!

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Perhaps it is time for the moderators of this forum to stop the encouragement of this practice.

IMHO the OP is knowingly trying to connect equipment to receive a subscription service free of charge.

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As you appear to be no longer a subscriber then it is very unlikely that any engineer will move the boxes for you as you would either be unable to receive any signal or possibly just the 5 terrestrial channels.

You would be better employed purchasing yourself some freeview boxes as you would receive more channels and probably be more cost effective.

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Your opinion is noted - as is the fact that it flies in the face of the OP's clearly stated intention. He can hardly be trying to get a 'subscription service free of charge' when he has stated that he is only interested in viewing those channels that are free anyway.

And no, I don't think we will be stopping the practice of telling people how to alter the cabling in their own homes any time soon. It's not illegal. If there's a contract between the householder and VM then it may breach that contract, but even that is merely a civil matter between the subscriber and VM.

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IMHO The channels may be FTA and the OP has that option - of receiving them via FreeSat or FreeView but there is no FreeCable. AFAIK All Virgin Media services are ONLY available when the appropriate subscription is paid. The service you are paying for is the delivery of a TV service on a PRIVATE network.

What answer do you think I would get if I asked Virgin Media to connect me to their cable network and provide me with TV M for no ongoing monthly charge? I would, of course, be willing to pay the one-off £35 connection charge.

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In which case the answer is 'It can't be done, sorry' - not to accuse the OP of theft, or attempted theft, or imply he is trying to be dishonest. It seemed like a genuine question to me, and I like to think I can tell the difference between an honest question and attempted theft. We see plenty of both on here.

As I have already said, you can physically attach a TV direct to the cable, in any area where the analogue signal is still active and the cable is still attached to a tap in the street cab, and get 'free cable' that way. And you can go down to Maplin and get the cables and connectors necessary to alter the position of the VM equipment inside your house.

VM may not like you doing any of the above, but if you were a subscriber the most they could realistically do is cut you off ... if you're not a subscriber, what then?

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Please re-read my posts. In which of my posts do I accuse the OP of theft?

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Please re-read the thread. Are you the only poster?

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To be fair it reads as if you were directing it at RobboEdin. :angel:

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My concern is that certain members of the 'Cable Forum Team' seem to be almost condoning what the OP wants to do.

No subscription, no service. Surely this forum should be closing immediately any thread which doesn't understand that from the first reply (like mine) with that sentiment?

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What you can't seem to understand is Chris, the service isn't a free for all even for the 5 channels you would get by just putting the stb on the network. These have go to be installed correctly otherwise if it turns into a free for all where people just connect them to get,"What is free anyway" the the system will be affected even more by noise and interference, unfortunately you have no idea as to the effects this has on the system. I'M NOT BOTHERED ABOUT IT BEING LEGAL OR CIVIL, plenty of people use this forum to complain about the service that they pay for then possilbly the same people want something for nothing and are totally ignorant to the issues and problems it causes by shoddy do it yourself,"i don't want to pay for the cable to be moved" or "I just want the free channels on the STB" I WANT I WANT. you want a DECENT SERVICE THAT WORKS, THEN PAY FOR IT, YOU WANT IT to work as it should, then pay for it to be done properly.

You and others seem to think well cause you get them for free without subscription it's ok just to hook up a box, no it isn't, you want any service you either pay for a subscription or go down the route of getting freeview with phone line.

The OP can be helped by phoning VM and making a choice.

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Or, to put it more briefly, "no, sorry, can't do it" ... which is more polite than simply assuming the OP is up to no good or trying to pull a fast one.

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Yes, but you can only go on what is explained in the first thread.

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The OP's first comment was wanting to know if he could get freeview not 'can someone hook me with the all of the movie and sports channels.'

As mentioned a little perspective please.

JJ

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As already stated no channels are free.. The lowest package they do is M which although free with a phoneline is not a freeview package. You still need a valid subscription card matched with the box.

So sorry OP but even if you did get it connected there are no channels that you would recieve.. Have you considered freeview or freesat instead?

As for static IP's you can get fixed sticky IP's via a business account, but as they don't do TV it wouldn't help you either

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I must say, I didn't get the impression that the OP wanted to steal cable, just wanted to know if there are any free channels if he plugged a box in...

As Kymmy says though, you'd be better going down the Freesat / Freeview route if you don't want to subscribe to any VM service. HTH :)

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My thoughts as well which is why I advised he may be best going down the freeview route as well.

He may get the boxes moved and find he has paid out money just to receive 5 channels or worse none as they have removed him from the tap in the cab.

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Yep, I think the OP might have been getting confused with the old analogue system where once the subscription has finished the box was capable of still recieving FTA channels. Where as the digital boxes are not set up like that.

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Agreed.

Just get freeview, it will do all you want and more, will probably be cheaper to setup and like you say no danger of your drop cable going faulty or getting disconnected.

Simple,stop giving the OP a hard time as not necessary.

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I read an article on this forum, that IF you don't have cable network, you can still get VM, just wondering HOW do you get it.

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Through a phone line via ADSL for TV and you can get a little teeny virgin freeview box too.

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Yep its called Virgin Media National