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papa smurf 10-01-2010 11:57

Myleene Klass warned by police
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ith-knife.html

Miss Klass, a model for Marks & Spencer and a former singer with the pop group Hear'Say, was in her kitchen in the early hours of Friday when she saw two teenagers behaving suspiciously in her garden.

The youths approached the kitchen window, before attempting to break into her garden shed, prompting Miss Klass to wave a kitchen knife to scare them away.


Myleene was aghast when she was told that the law did not allow her to defend herself in her own home. All she did was scream loudly and wave the knife to try and frighten them off.

i suppose the correct thing to do would have been to throw the shed keys out of the window, before evacuating the premises and leaving it unlocked to assist the intruders in their lawful right to take what ever they want:rolleyes:

martyh 10-01-2010 12:02

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whats the betting that one of those littke scrotes had a knife on him

LSainsbury 10-01-2010 12:04

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Perhaps she should have gone outside and confronted them.

Then she may have been punched by one of them, knocked to the ground and left for dead in the snow.

Perhaps today we would have then been waking up to a different story.

Well done MK I say.

Nidge 10-01-2010 12:43

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She should have shoved it into one of them and made a job of it.

punky 10-01-2010 13:38

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Defending yourself in your home now includes running into the garden and knifing 2 people does it? Do people often live in sheds? I would say if she was in her home and the youths were breaking into her shed the threat to her life was fairly low at that point.

I'm all for granting homeowners to defend themselves but that stops quite a way short of running after people and executing them over a small amount of property. If the garden counts, does that mean the driveway is fair game then?

Russ 10-01-2010 13:44

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Mmmmm, Myleene :romance:

alferret 10-01-2010 13:49

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Un bloody believable. The UK is fast becomming a place where if your some scummy little oik your in the police's safe hands where if you are the victim you have sod all rights.

webcrawler2050 10-01-2010 13:51

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I am aso sick of this country. Jesus christ. Why is this? I dont understand, unless it's me? Jesus.. and "hmmm" Mylene

v0id 10-01-2010 13:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34942388)

I'm all for granting homeowners to defend themselves but that stops quite a way short of running after people and executing them over a small amount of property. If the garden counts, does that mean the driveway is fair game then?


An Englishmans home and all that.
If the local council would allow me to build a moat around my house to protect myself and my property I would.
But as they wouldn't give planning permission for something like that, I'll protect it however I can.

papa smurf 10-01-2010 14:13

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she should do what the hm the Queen does
get one of these blokes to guard her shed;)

punky 10-01-2010 14:27

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Originally Posted by v0id (Post 34942398)
An Englishmans home and all that.
If the local council would allow me to build a moat around my house to protect myself and my property I would.
But as they wouldn't give planning permission for something like that, I'll protect it however I can.

You have the right to protect you and your family's lives. Not property. Not even in the USA will they let you off for executing a burglar for stealing a lawnmower.

Derek 10-01-2010 14:36

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Total non-story

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Polis
"Words of advice were given in relation to ensuring suspicious behaviour is reported immediately."

So basically a cop went round and checked the house then said something along the lines of

"Don't go outside with a knife if you see someone, call us straight away"

And it gets reported as

"Don't do anything ever"

Still it proves the Police do attend calls like this despite some people thinking all they do is sit in warm offices playing pool and drinking tea.

papa smurf 10-01-2010 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34942420)
Total non-story



So basically a cop went round and checked the house then said something along the lines of

"Don't go outside with a knife if you see someone, call us straight away"

And it gets reported as

"Don't do anything ever"

Still it proves the Police do attend calls like this despite some people thinking all they do is sit in warm offices playing pool and drinking tea.



do you mean they turn up when a celebrity calls ,i only ask as i don't seem to get the same response when i call to report something .

Derek 10-01-2010 14:48

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Yeah although only cause it was Mylene. If someone not as attractive called it wouldn't be worth going outside for :rolleyes:

Tarantella 10-01-2010 14:49

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Bit silly telling the police you waved a knife at someone.

martyh 10-01-2010 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34942429)
Bit silly telling the police you waved a knife at someone.


might have been one of the little scrotes who grassed her up cos his 'uman rites was broke

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 15:27

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non story as said she should have just phoned the police and made sure the doors were locked

Arthurgray50@blu 10-01-2010 15:30

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i think she was given words of advice by the bill, BUT, it just goes to show you, how stupid the laws are in this country.

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 15:44

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in what way stupid ?

we should be allowed to execute people to protect property ?

soicky 10-01-2010 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34942458)
in what way stupid ?

we should be allowed to execute people to protect property ?

:rolleyes:

papa smurf 10-01-2010 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34942458)
in what way stupid ?

we should be allowed to execute people to protect property ?

execute no- beat the crap out of yes imo

Hugh 10-01-2010 16:11

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34942466)
execute no- beat the crap out of yes imo

mmmmmmmm - Mylene, chastise me......:)

Anyhoo, back to reality - sounds like her agent has made some stuff up to get some free publicity

Does anyone actually believe this was said
Quote:

the police explained to her that even if you're at home alone and you have an intruder, you are not allowed to protect yourself
Guardian (not exactly well-know defenders of Old Bill)
Quote:

A spokeswoman for Hertfordshire police said no reference was made in the Klass incident report about a weapon. She said the incident was being treated as trespass and "words of advice were given in relation to ensuring suspicious behaviour is reported immediately".

papa smurf 10-01-2010 16:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34942471)
mmmmmmmm - Mylene, chastise me......:)

Anyhoo, back to reality - sounds like her agent has made some stuff up to get some free publicity

Does anyone actually believe this was said

Guardian (not exactly well-know defenders of Old Bill)


yup

"Her questions going forward are: what are my rights, and what are you actually allowed to do to defend yourself in your own house?"

Nidge 10-01-2010 16:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34942388)
Defending yourself in your home now includes running into the garden and knifing 2 people does it? Do people often live in sheds? I would say if she was in her home and the youths were breaking into her shed the threat to her life was fairly low at that point.

I'm all for granting homeowners to defend themselves but that stops quite a way short of running after people and executing them over a small amount of property. If the garden counts, does that mean the driveway is fair game then?

On my garden gate I've got a sign saying Enter at your own risk, if they want to enter without my permission they are going to suffer some serious pain.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34942393)
Mmmmm, Myleene :romance:

Steady Russ.

Russ 10-01-2010 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34942481)
[B]On my garden gate I've got a sign saying Enter at your own risk, if they want to enter without my permission they are going to suffer some serious pain.

Any exceptions to that? Because it sounds like an uninvited door-to-door salesman is going to get assaulted by knocking on your door.

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 16:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34942475)
yup

"Her questions going forward are: what are my rights, and what are you actually allowed to do to defend yourself in your own house?"

In your house you can kill them if you think your life or others is at risk ( and basically they would have to prove you didn't think that as in court it is not that you were at risk but that you believed you were even if that belief was wrong )

but if you stop them from running away to attack them then you over step the mark

and going outside to threaten people seems to be putting yourself and your family at more risk than locking the doors and phoning the police

devilincarnate 10-01-2010 17:30

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I think that she should have gone out and stabbed the two little f@@@ers , as one said earlier i would get planning permission but not for a moat but a minefield to stop them !

Where i used to live i got someone stood in the back garden shouting obsenities at my 8 month pregnant partner and i chased them down the row of gardens and then got questioned about threats to kill , as they said that i was going to kill them ( if i had got hold of him i would have ) !

But on a funny note i would not have been at the kitchen window , i would have been with a ladder at the bedroom window to see M KLASS:D

Arthurgray50@blu 10-01-2010 17:34

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Myleene was in her own her own home and just showed the knife to the thug via the door, and she gets a warning, l said the laws are stupid, as she should be allowed toprotect her own property, what she should have done was thrown th bloody thing.

Chris 10-01-2010 17:42

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Arthur, she didn't 'get a warning'. She was offered some advice on what would be a sensible way to behave and what might land her in trouble. Just a concerned local copper doing a nice bit of community crime prevention work if you ask me, and not deserving of the slating he's getting in here and in the Press.

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34942539)
Myleene was in her own her own home and just showed the knife to the thug via the door, and she gets a warning, l said the laws are stupid, as she should be allowed toprotect her own property, what she should have done was thrown th bloody thing.

they did not caution her they just advised it would be safer to call them

grubbymitts 10-01-2010 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34942429)
Bit silly telling the police you waved a knife at someone.

I waved something of mine at Mylene once. The police were around in a flash then too.

Mr_love_monkey 10-01-2010 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grubbymitts (Post 34942557)
I waved something of mine at Mylene once. The police were around in a flash then too.

'flash' being the operative word...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34942486)
Any exceptions to that? Because it sounds like an uninvited door-to-door salesman is going to get assaulted by knocking on your door.

.. and that's a bad thing, because.... <tongue in cheek/>

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Personally I think Myleene should be offered 24 hours protection- and I'd be willing to do it for free...

Osem 10-01-2010 20:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarantella (Post 34942429)
Bit silly telling the police you waved a knife at someone.

Yes - mind you I'm not sure a feather duster or a rolled up copy of OK would have had the desired deterrent effect....

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34942546)
they did not caution her they just advised it would be safer to call them

Yes, providing she felt they'd be able to respond in time.

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34942676)
Yes - mind you I'm not sure a feather duster or a rolled up copy of OK would have had the desired deterrent effect....

---------- Post added at 21:24 ---------- Previous post was at 21:22 ----------



Yes, providing she felt they'd be able to respond in time.

hmm and going outside and showing your there would make her safer ? even if they were going to be slow to respond

she could have found it was more than 2 once outside putting yourself at risk for things is daft imho

( note i have no problem with her arming herself with the knife or using it if they had come inside and she felt threatened )

Osem 10-01-2010 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34942684)
hmm and going outside and showing your there would make her safer ?

Did I say it would? :confused:

moaningmags 10-01-2010 21:08

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Wasn't it Mylene Klass who was mugged? If so, then I don't blame her I'd have went to the door or window with a knife too.

Stuart 10-01-2010 21:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34942428)
Yeah although only cause it was Mylene. If someone not as attractive called it wouldn't be worth going outside for :rolleyes:

In fairness to that point of view, where I work, we phoned our local police to report a stolen laptop. We were given a crime number (for the insurance claim) and told to go investigate it ourselves..

Also, on a personal level, a couple of years ago, someone was trying to climb over our back fence. The dogs noticed it, and went insane. The barking alerted the neighbours who called 999. The Police came round, chased a couple of blokes off (who used the excuse that they were playing football and the ball had gone over our fence). The Policeman came to our front door, told us what had happened, and asked us to report anything strange happening.

So, about 10pm, I noticed a car going round and round the carpark behind our garden, and apparently spending a long time by our fence each time it went round. I watched for a few minutes, then phoned 999. The operator initially refused to put the call through saying it was probably someone doing a driving lesson. When I said they had been circling for 45 minutes so I didn't think that likely, they asked me to stay by the phone and hung up.

5 minutes later, I got a phone call from our local Police station apologising for what had happened. 15 minutes later I got another one from the Police telling me that the car I had described had been seen outside a local building society and the occupants arrested trying to break in, and that we should be OK now.

I know that a lot of Police Officers do a lot of good work, often in dangerous conditions, but the Police don't get it right all the time..

As for Mylene Klass, I can understand that she probably did feel threatened, but it is a bit much to threaten someone's life just for nicking garden implements.

superbiatch 10-01-2010 21:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34942707)
As for Mylene Klass, I can understand that she probably did feel threatened, but it is a bit much to threaten someone's life just for nicking garden implements.

I'm not agreeing with what she allegedly did, but i found myself in a similar situation a few years back and the sheer thought of someone invading my personal belongings (be it as stupid as a lawn mower) drove me to run out into the back garden and confront the idiot.

Thankfully he was a lowlife who scarpered using a laid out track of wheelie bins in front of fences, but when rage takes over you do stupid things. My nerves were absolutely shot after that and I didn't sleep for weeks :rolleyes:

rogerdraig 10-01-2010 21:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34942699)
Did I say it would? :confused:


no i most likely replied to you and another post but for the life of me now i cant think which one was reading to many threads and had the kids running around out of bed for umpteenth time asking if there as any more snow

( thats my excuse and i am sticking to it )

now i have forgotten what else i was going to say lol

ah well off to try and beat that high score on mini pool for a while again ;)

Stuart 10-01-2010 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34942714)
I'm not agreeing with what she allegedly did, but i found myself in a similar situation a few years back and the sheer thought of someone invading my personal belongings (be it as stupid as a lawn mower) drove me to run out into the back garden and confront the idiot.

Thankfully he was a lowlife who scarpered using a laid out track of wheelie bins in front of fences, but when rage takes over you do stupid things. My nerves were absolutely shot after that and I didn't sleep for weeks :rolleyes:

I'll admit, I was looking at it from a logical point of view. Unfortunately, when threatened, logic goes out the window for most people..

Julian 11-01-2010 13:10

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What I find completely unacceptable is this thread going on for 3 pages and noone has posted a picture of Myleene....




https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/01/57.jpg


:drool:

dgardner 11-01-2010 14:21

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Am i missing something When did she execute or attempt to execute someone?
Wasn't she inside the house and the **** outside?

danielf 11-01-2010 14:26

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Perhaps a kind mod can change the thread title to the apparently more correct: Myleene Klass not warned by police at all?

Quote:

But a statement from Hertfordshire police said: "Officers spoke to reassure the home owner, talked through security and gave advice in relation to the importance of reporting suspicious activity immediately to allow officers to act appropriately."

It added: "For clarification, at no point were any official warnings or words of advice given to the home owner in relation to the use of a knife or offensive weapon in their home."
Sounds like a storm in a teacup. Perhaps Myleene was just after some publicity?

rogerdraig 11-01-2010 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34942983)
Perhaps a kind mod can change the thread title to the apparently more correct: Myleene Klass not warned by police at all?



Sounds like a storm in a teacup. Perhaps Myleene was just after some publicity?

never why on earth would she do that ;)


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