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Islamic group's plan to march through Wootton Bassett
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-Bassett.html
http://current.com/16j9k4c The group's website says the event is being held 'not in memory of the occupying and merciless British military' but of the Muslims its says have been 'murdered in the name of democracy and freedom'. |
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That statement doesn't even make any sense,and why choose Wootton Bassett if it's not politicle ? They are just trying to incite the BNP into going and causing trouble |
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You can bet that there will be blood shed if this goes ahead. You will have the Islamic nutters on one side and the BNP nutters on the other and to be honest it would not surprise me if you have a third group which will be Squaddies who will not want this to go ahead at any cost.
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Hopefully the police and the powers that be will see this as `HIGHLY` provocative and not allow it to take place. If they want to march then let them do it somewhere else, tensions will be running very high anyway in Wootton Bassett.
I expect they`ll say its their `right` to hold a march anywhere they want to. :erm: |
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I can see the event 'if' allowed to happen to be a lot of trouble. maybe a deciding factor for something.
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I don't know. that it really is them against us. and them are in this country?
best thing to do is just totally ignore them. stay in your homes, close all the shops, don't give them any media coverage. |
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Oh jesus christ. I'm gunna stear clear. There's going to be world war 3 in bassett, if and when this happens. I've just told my collegues whos answer, I won't repeat on here.
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Are they protesting about these killings?:rolleyes: Silly question I know.
Pakistan volleyball bomb toll up |
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If i was a betting man i would say this is a definite for a riot.
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If they want to protest about the war in Afghanistan than go protest where the people who make the decisions are not where the dead are honoured. Seems like they haven't been having enough media coverage lately and they need another fix.
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But British Forces are there to try and stop the killing of Muslims.
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Only a moron would allow this to go ahead and only the master of morons would expect no trouble. If they do this a quiet dignified village is going to become a warzone damn quick and neither the people of that village or the country needs that right now. This is absolutely gauranteed to kick off trouble and the worst thing is yes the bnp would go and gain support from a hell of a lot of people for going that in itself is a big enough reason to not allow this putting aside the obvious insult to everything that village stands for. Also when i see marches by whatever section of the islamic community against al qaeda and the taliban i might take their mioral stance a little more seriously as both of those have killed and deliberately murdered more muslims then either the british or americans but i guess that ok in their book complete hypocrites.
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the point is our "murderous" and "merciless" armed forces are in iraq and afganistan to try to give them a better life ,one were they are not beheaded for there beliefs ,one were they can think and say what they want so a bit of gratitude would'nt go amiss
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Just deport them all. Problem sorted. |
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If this is allowed to happen it would not be only the BNP who would be there you would have the other groups as the NATIONAL FRONT and also COMBAT 18 as well as there would be a bloodbath .
So lets hope that it does not go ahead for the safety of the town and also to stop this country having a war between citizens as well ! |
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has there been any condemnation from the muslim community or are they going to sit back and do/say nothing
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while you wait for that to happen . |
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I think this could mean their "symbolic" coffins actually getting filled....
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As other have said it will if it happens drive more votes to the bloody BNP :mad:.
They will also been seen by some as defending the name of our lads if this stupid Government allows this to proceed. At the moment this is a win win situation for the sodding BNP. :mad: |
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Leader Anjem Choudary said the protest, involving 500 people, would be peaceful one, with "symbolic coffins" being carried to honour Muslim victims of the conflict. He said he also planned to write to the parents of dead UK soldiers with his version of "the reality of what they died for".
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As long as it's muslim's killing muslim's it's fine and dandy, but as soon as the kifur join's in bad....
Anywho.... While I support their right to hold a peaceful march (this is allegedly still a democracy after all), it's obvious that these execrable, asshat's are trying to provoke a fighting reaction. If people like this hate the UK so much, why don't thet just feck off Pakistan. Strap on an explosive waistcoat, and go claim their 72 raisins.... |
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While this may appear to be a peaceful march, its designed to promote their beliefs that our government, & forces are murderers.
Forget the BNP, & all the other factions, & don't think for one moment the ordinary people will stand by & allow this to proceed. Let them start to march, then march em straight to the boat, or a firing squad. Who runs this damned country. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: |
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no-one is speaking for you ,but what about the leaders of the mosques ,the men who are important within muslim communities ,if they spoke out more instead of burying their heads in the sand so much then maybe they would get a bit more respect |
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Yeah right 500, a pound says less than 50 turn up |
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Who are these spokespersons for the muslim community you ask. How about the one's that are on every tele channel everytime there is an attack by islamic nutter's they seem happy to have spokespersons then don't they. Sorry but this is designed for one thing and one thing only and that is to start trouble and if no one has the right to speak on behalf of the muslim community then no one sure as hell has the right to write to the familys of dead service people telling them their version of the events leading to the deaths of their loved one's which arn't the truth as he wasn't there so how doe's he know what he is on about.
This whole thing is making me sick and angry and i would guess that goes for the vast majority and will not be accepted hell if i wasn't so damn useless now if they went ahead with this i would go to wootton. If they despise this nation so much and those who fight to protect us all then they are free to leave and go where the hell they want. But if they are going to stay here and enjoy the many benefits of life in the UK then they need to pull their heads in and shut the hell up because i am sick and tired of hearing whinging moaning gits constantly slagging off this country that they are so happy to stay in. This sort of thing is what is turning more and more people hostile towards the islamic community and all normal muslims must realise that and start standing up to the idiots in their own community. |
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it doesn't matter if it's 500 or just 5 ,it shouldn't be happening, by all means protest against the war in iraq or afganistan there would be a lot of support from non-muslims but to protest on the back of calling our servicemen murderers is wrong and as far as i'm concerened muslims aren't doing themselves any favours |
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All muslim communities have leaders ,people who are highly respected within the community ,usually a mosque leader .These people have quite a lot of say and are very influencial |
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Here here. If this happens, its going to all hell to break loose in Bassett.
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It does make the ordinary peace loving Muslim look a bit sick though. It appears that some of these "Leading Muslims" are all powerful, legends in their own minds, & speak for every Muslim.
It would be refreshing if a group of leading Muslims came out in public, & supported their country of choice for once. After all, there are Muslims in the British Army, who signed up to do the very job they are doing, you don't see them bleating & moaning. |
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that would mean they would have to commit themselves to Britain and they won't do that because it suits them for now to be the underdog ,the group who need special treatment ,they are playing us like a fiddle and the British government just sits back and give us away |
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I need to agree with some on here as shortly my nephew is going to become one of these murdorous gits as they speak of and he is only 18 (yes the same as some of those patriotic people that have lost their lives in conflicts) . As i have alot of friends who served in IRELAND and have seen their friends shot or blown up due to conflicts and this is what ENGLAND will be turned back too if this is allowed to happen !:mad: |
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I dont agree at all. This is England!!! Not Engla-stan. I dont care, to be honest. What I care is our boys n gals are out their fighting a loosing battle. No supplies, pants equipment, PM thats all "good" in the press but really is being "ordered" by the US. England, needs to grow a set of balls and stand up.
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Stand up for our rights. Stand up to our Government otherwise, Big Brother is coming. |
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What we need to do is instead of trying to get RATM to christmas no1 . Is all get together on a petition to get our troops pulled out of all conflicts . Bless all the troops all over the world and a happy new year to them all and lets hope that they are able to celebrate it without no deaths . LEST WE FORGET |
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The USSR got a good kicking at the hands of a loose alliance of Afghan warlords collectively known at the time as the Mujahideen. They were well funded by a number of foreign powers, notably Regan's USA. It was the failure of the Mujahideen to set up an effective government in the wake of the Soviet withdrawl that led to the formation and triumph of the Taliban. Once the Russians were gone, the warlords were more interested in squabbling amongst themselves settling old scores (a very traditional Afghan pursuit). It was relatively easy for the religious nutters to form up and take over, especially as they were being egged on by other religious nutters inside Pakistan who thought that turning an entire country into an oppressive religious theocracy would be an interesting experiment which, if successful, could be repeated in Pakistan itself. |
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Will the police come down hard on them the way they do to the EDL.
This march is just going to attract BNP and other right wing followers, its going to turn into a huge battle royale. |
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yep funny how things work out ,the USA funded the Mujahideen simply because it was against the USSR not for any other reason imo ,they funded them ,armed them and now it's come back to bite them and us right up the jacksy ,i wonder what it would be like now if the USA had left well alone ? |
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choudary has got what he wanted - everybody is now talking about it. I doubt whether even a hoon (refer order-order.com for translation) like him would have the undercarriage to attempt actually marching through Wooten Bassett.
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well they have threatened in the past but never followed up ,as it stands at the moment they haven't even applied for permission |
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Hey is it just me or do other people have a niggly feeling in the back of my head that this may be a ploy so that they will all be able to log on and search as we are resarching this ? As the security services will be lookin in to all the searches for afghan etc.
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:LOL: no its just this thread took a turn towards the twilight zone for a short while :) |
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I think this is a good idea. Let them have their march. Arrest each and every one of them and deport them to afghanistan irrelevant of where they are from
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What would be even better is if everyone ignored them. No media covage, no one talking about it, and the handful of people who march will be ignored by the people in the town.
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It would be nice if the citizens of Wootton Bassett did the Klingon ritual and just turn their backs to the marchers in silence.No violence or abuse just a way to register disapproval in a dignified manner.
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Yes turning the cheek is a fantastic thing for the person in your face gives them a chance to slap both of them. Come on you honestly believe this bunch of hypocritical malcontents would allow any dignified response to them, if they were of that mind they wouldn't be talking about doing this in wootton would they. They are out for trouble and oneway or another they will insure it happens no doubt looking to prove the barbarity of the british people (highly edited footage to appear on some islamic nutjob site soon) if they are allowed within twenty miles.
It's a no brainer it shouldn't even be discussed it should be banned out of hand because any other course of action is going to cause trouble regardless of how much securirty is in place and this is one place in the UK that does not deserve this. |
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As far as I'm concerned we have done too much banning of things in the last 10 years.. No I don't imagine that any such march will pass unoticed by the neo nazis but this IS still a democratic country and I will defend to the death anyone's right to protest in a legal and peaceful manner..Those that don't will be arrested and dealt with. Just because people have a different viewpoint is no reason to ban their right to express it.That is counter productive and will just make more would be martyrs for their cause. I'm positive that the citizens of Wootten Bassett will deal with this protest in the same dignified manner that they have dealt with the dead servicemen from Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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They still don't speak for all Muslims no more than this Choudray does or Nick Griffin speak for all white people, the numbers turning up show how uninterested in supporting his cause normal people are. Quote:
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Let the demo go ahead just don't police it, we'll see who cries the loudest when some proper British Justice has been handed out.
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Or perhaps have the police there with their backs turned. |
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LETTER: To the Families of British Soldiers who have died or who are currently in Afghanistan
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What alod of old tosh in my opinion. It shouldnt be allowed. Tell this group of people to shutup. End of. |
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Islam4UK says on its website that it is ‘unacceptable’ to honour servicemen in this way who have contributed ‘directly or indirectly’ to the deaths of ‘well over 100,000 Muslims in Afghanistan’.
It adds: ‘As a result we have decided to launch the 'Wootton Bassett March' to highlight the real casualties of this brutal Crusade.’ |
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I don't care about their losses. Why should I?
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No, we haven't banned enough of these "Protest" marches. These morons are just out to make trouble. As for "Embracing Islam", they can stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Its a disgrace for anyone to protest our forces on the streets. You wont need "Neo Nazis" out there, the average citizen is annoyed enough with these fanatics. If you want to protest against the war, protest against the government, not the people who serve in the forces. You, if anybody should know that. How would you like your husband to march through your home town, to be called a "Murderer", "Baby killer", & all the other crap these dummies spout. You say its a democratic country? Look again Maggy, its fast becoming a country bent on pandering to foreigners, who simply want to inflict their ideals & way of life upon us. Ragging & calling our troops is a step way too far. If volunteers are needed in Wootton Basset, they wont have to advertise. Pop into your local British Legion & see the mood. |
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In a way I have to agree with their line of thinking - March against the people that have caused these casulties. HOWEVER wouldn't it be better if they chose to march in Afghanistan & Pakistan? If they really have a greivence against the people who are murdering the innocents. then they should look closer at what is happening to 'their own people' by 'their' peoples own hands.
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Oh god some of the liberals on here are in full heart on sleeve mode arn't they. When complete democracy means those who protect us and serve this nation can be insulted and wrongly accused by a bunch of whinging miserable malcontents that are happy to moan about everything non islam while sitting on their well fed comfortable backsides in the UK then it is going too far.
There is one place in the UK that unconditionally shows it's respect and admiration for our service people and so that we cling to being a democracy we will allow that one place to be subjected to a load of lie's and accusations. No this is wrong anyway you cut it i have no problem with them protesting and doing it where it counts but that is not wootton bassett it is london. Don't tell me this is anything but a slap in the face for this country and it's service's out there risking all to try and protact us and this is all about causing trouble anyone can see that. So what we let anyone that wants to cause trouble do it because to stop them would be undemocratic. I am all for fairness and tolerence and for helping anyone genuinely in need of it but what i am getting increasingly sick of is having that attitude used against me and this country by people that see it as a weakness and something to be taken advantage of. Leave wootton alone go make your protest elsewhere and if your really so sickened by the UK then please feel free to go somewhere else more to your liking although we all that won't happen because nowhere would keep them as comfortable as we do and tolerate their rubbish. |
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The numpties in the BNP must be loving all of this. |
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http://www.islam4uk.com/current-affa...in-afghanistan
Complete & utter Religious & political crap, peddled by brainwashed morons, possibly sponsored by Al-Qaeda. :dunce::dunce::dunce::dunce: |
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Just let the GHURKAS have their say on this and let them police the march and lets see what happens ?
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