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Taf 02-01-2010 10:30
Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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from today, 1 january 2010, the new irish blasphemy law becomes operational, and we begin our campaign to have it repealed. Blasphemy is now a crime punishable by a €25,000 fine.

In response, we have published a list of 25 blasphemous quotes, which have previously been published by or uttered by or attributed to jesus christ, muhammad, mark twain, tom lehrer, randy newman, james kirkup, monty python, rev ian paisley, conor cruise o’brien, frank zappa, salman rushdie, bjork, amanda donohoe, george carlin, paul woodfull, jerry springer the opera, tim minchin, richard dawkins, pope benedict xvi, christopher hitchens, pz myers, ian o’doherty, cardinal cormac murphy-o’connor and dermot ahern.

You can read the quotes on the website here:

http://blasphemy.ie/2010/01/01/athei...hemous-quotes/
[rant] insert blasphemy here [/rant]

Peter_ 02-01-2010 10:35
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Gary L 02-01-2010 10:44
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
Let us prey.

Prey that now God is in law too. he'll now stop turning his back on us and do something.

Earl of Bronze 02-01-2010 10:53
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
One can only hope that Ireland will move into the 21st century and consign laws against free speech and free thought to the dustbin of history....

Love from a proud Anti-Theist and Anti-Deist. ;)

Kymmy 02-01-2010 10:54
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34937207)
Let us prey.

Prey that now God is in law too. he'll now stop turning his back on us and do something.
So we are god's prey? Is that what you're trying to tell us?

Sirius 02-01-2010 10:54
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34937204)
so am i :LOL:

webcrawler2050 02-01-2010 10:57
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
Just another "government" way to earn cash.

Gary L 02-01-2010 10:57
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34937212)
So we are god's prey? Is that what you're trying to tell us?
Did I spell pray wrong? :D

punky 02-01-2010 11:05
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erthun0Pauc

papa smurf 02-01-2010 11:12
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
From today, 1 January 2010, the new Irish blasphemy law becomes operational, and we begin our campaign to have it repealed. Blasphemy is now a crime punishable by a €25,000 fine. The new law defines blasphemy as publishing or uttering matter that is grossly abusive or insulting in relation to matters held sacred by any religion, thereby intentionally causing outrage among a substantial number of adherents of that religion, with some defences permitted.


nice step backwards - €25,000 fine. why not just let god strike down the blasphemers

Sirius 02-01-2010 11:37
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34937229)


nice step backwards -
However some will think its a move forward :LOL:

papa smurf 02-01-2010 11:41
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34937233)
However some will think its a move forward :LOL:
towards the compulsory belief in deity's no doubt .

Gary L 02-01-2010 11:43
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34937229)
nice step backwards - €25,000 fine. why not just let god strike down the blasphemers
You'd have better luck getting the fairies to grant wishes.

papa smurf 02-01-2010 11:51
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34937235)
You'd have better luck getting the fairies to grant wishes.
Leprechauns gary there called Leprechauns :)

Gary L 02-01-2010 12:29
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34937237)
Leprechauns gary there called Leprechauns :)
I didn't want to say the word Leprechaun. incase someone said it was racist :)

budwieser 02-01-2010 13:03
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Originally Posted by gary l (Post 34937251)
i didn't want to say the word leprechaun. Incase someone said it was racist :)
pmsl .........:d

nomadking 02-01-2010 13:12
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34937251)
I didn't want to say the word Leprechaun. incase someone said it was racist :)
Which neatly brings us around to non-PC language offences. The punishments are worse than this new law.

Earl of Bronze 02-01-2010 14:19
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34937237)
Leprechauns gary there called Leprechauns :)
They are a species of Fairy. ;)

Not that I believe in Fairies ofc, but there are two Fairy Rings within 3 miles of my house. :D

frogstamper 04-01-2010 00:40
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
It beggars belief that in this day and age a supposed modern democracy can introduce a backwards law that belongs firmly in the dark ages, unbelievable!!!

Earl of Bronze 04-01-2010 00:43
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34938444)
It beggars belief that in this day and age a supposed modern democracy can introduce a backwards law that belongs firmly in the dark ages, unbelievable!!!
Considering the long, and very strong ties between the catholic church and the state in the repubic, then this sort of law isn't really that surprising tbh....

Maggy 04-01-2010 08:16
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
After all abortion is not legal in Ireland and anyone seeking to go abroad and obtain one can be prosecuted..:(

Sasha222 04-01-2010 22:21
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34937251)
I didn't want to say the word Leprechaun. incase someone said it was racist :)
Im irish and I was afraid to mention the word John bull as well in case it someone said it was racist :D:D:D ;) :)

---------- Post added at 23:21 ---------- Previous post was at 23:18 ----------

Running now to get my pot of Gold

Peter_ 04-01-2010 22:24
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 34938949)
Im irish and I was afraid to mention the word John bull as well in case it someone said it was racist :D:D:D ;) :)

---------- Post added at 23:21 ---------- Previous post was at 23:18 ----------

Running now to get my pot of Gold
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/01/130.jpgFound it.:D:D:D:D:D

Gary L 04-01-2010 22:30
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by defirish (Post 34938949)
Im irish and I was afraid to mention the word John bull as well in case it someone said it was racist :D:D:D ;) :)
Is he the one who wore the BNP T-Shirt? :)

Peter_ 04-01-2010 22:31
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34938963)
Is he the one who wore the BNP T-Shirt? :)
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Gary L 04-01-2010 22:33
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34938956)
You think you're good with Google.
I bet you can't find 2 blondes holding an explosive :D

Hugh 05-01-2010 08:56
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
I think this is a stupid law, but what happened to some posters' viewpoints on other threads about "their country, their law"?;)

Russ 05-01-2010 09:00
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34939095)
I think this is a stupid law, but what happened to some posters' viewpoints on other threads about "their country, their law"?;)
It's different when it comes to religion. Don't ask how, it's just different ;)

Any hint of "leave Ireland to sort out its own affairs" leaves people worryingly close to sounding like they're validifying religion and oooooh, we can't be having that.

Gary L 05-01-2010 11:51
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34939099)
Any hint of "leave Ireland to sort out its own affairs" leaves people worryingly close to sounding like they're validifying religion and oooooh, we can't be having that.
It's because they're the Irish, and not the Welsh :D

frogstamper 06-01-2010 01:57
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34939099)
It's different when it comes to religion. Don't ask how, it's just different ;)

Any hint of "leave Ireland to sort out its own affairs" leaves people worryingly close to sounding like they're validifying religion and oooooh, we can't be having that.
I'd say its more to do with the fact that many people don't like the idea of religion being protected by the political elite, this is precisely the sort of thing you'd expect to see in the undemocratic Middle East, not a member of the EU.

Mr Angry 06-01-2010 11:18
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34939668)
I'd say its more to do with the fact that many people don't like the idea of religion being protected by the political elite, this is precisely the sort of thing you'd expect to see in the undemocratic Middle East, not a member of the EU.
Right enough, it's not like the UK automatically gives 26 seats in the House of Lords to Church Of England bishops.

A much more modern outlook alltogether.:rolleyes:

Russ 06-01-2010 11:21
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34939668)
I'd say its more to do with the fact that many people don't like the idea of religion being protected by the political elite,
Even when it doesn't affect us at all?

Jacks 06-01-2010 11:59
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
Leprechauns... Im a leprechaun and I don't grant wishes... Ireland is still in the dark ages, it needs to move on.

between Paedophile priest and tribunals of enquiries, you would think they have enough to put right, never mind the god & law business.

Time to grow up !!!

Gary L 07-01-2010 09:48
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34939816)
Even when it doesn't affect us at all?
Yes.

iFrankie 07-01-2010 09:52
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34937204)
Im not sure what i am, i believe in god and aliens.... haha

LondonRoad 07-01-2010 09:55
Re: Time for a secular Ireland?
 
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Originally Posted by Frankie07 (Post 34940509)
Im not sure what i am, i believe in god and aliens.... haha
Could be one and the same if you've read any Erich Von Daniken books. :)


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