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BBKing 16-12-2009 15:45

'Should homosexuals be executed?' asks BBC
 
Yes, those lovable do-gooder liberals are at it again, trying to prove that the right wing are full of frothing brain dead morons:

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thre...1009#paginator

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Let's face it. Homosexuals are not wilful criminals but unfortunate disabled people who cannot enjoy Nature's gift of attraction to and union with the opposite sex
It's a public service, y'know.

Russ 16-12-2009 15:48

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What a complete non-question.

BenMcr 16-12-2009 15:50

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There is a reason it's been posted

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But this is the reality behind an Anti-Homosexuality Bill being debated on Friday by the Ugandan parliament which would see some homosexual offences punishable by death.

The bill proposes:

Life imprisonment for those convicted of a homosexual act
The death sentence where the offender has HiV, is a "serial offender" or the other person is under 18.
Imprisonment for seven years for "attempted homosexuality."

BBKing 16-12-2009 15:57

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" What a complete non-question. "

Not really, it's a scandalous distraction from a genuine and extremely worrying development. A lot of the BBC's HYS stuff is pandering to morons, which is apparently more important than, say, investigating the news. It's cheaper, I suppose.

Another problem, of course, the problem is that this whole idiocy is linked to evangelical Christianity, which hates teh gayz.

Keyz333 16-12-2009 16:02

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Life imprisonment for those convicted of a homosexual act
The death sentence where the offender has HiV, is a "serial offender" or the other person is under 18.
Imprisonment for seven years for "attempted homosexuality."
That's completely stupid.

Life imprisonment for being Homosexual?

and 'Attempted Homosexuality' ..

Most of all a death sentence for being gay.. It's just sick..

Damien 16-12-2009 16:05

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34928372)
" What a complete non-question. "

Not really, it's a scandalous distraction from a genuine and extremely worrying development. A lot of the BBC's HYS stuff is pandering to morons, which is apparently more important than, say, investigating the news. It's cheaper, I suppose..

As much as I hate HYS, it's not a replacement for the BBC News Content. It's extra..

Russ 16-12-2009 16:11

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34928372)
Another problem, of course, the problem is that this whole idiocy is linked to evangelical Christianity, which hates teh gayz.

I'm evangelical and I don't know anyone at my church who hates gays. That's not what my church teaches.

frogstamper 17-12-2009 02:50

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Personally I'm of the opinion that if Uganda bring this hateful law into being, then Britain should look again at the ten year deal we have to pump £700m into their economy.

Nidge 17-12-2009 04:56

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What do you expect from a country like that?? Being gay is not a crime, some of my mates are gay and I trust them with my life. I'd sooner be in a room full of gay people than a room full of straight people.

Dukefever 17-12-2009 06:26

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The world is starting to lose grip on reality, lol its so wrong its funny.

Stuart 17-12-2009 10:41

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34928372)
" What a complete non-question. "

Not really, it's a scandalous distraction from a genuine and extremely worrying development. A lot of the BBC's HYS stuff is pandering to morons, which is apparently more important than, say, investigating the news. It's cheaper, I suppose.

Try quoting some of the other questions asked by the article...
"Has Uganda gone too far? Should there be any level of legislation against homosexuality? Should homosexuals be protected by legislation as they are in South Africa? What would be the consequences of this bill to you? How will homosexual 'offences' be monitored? Send us your views."

That does a fairly good job of putting some context into the original statement. Also, this is an extra to the news. Not the news itself. Much like those bits on Breakfast TV where they ask people to email in with their comments.

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Another problem, of course, the problem is that this whole idiocy is linked to evangelical Christianity, which hates teh gayz.
Not all christians are like that..

Chris 17-12-2009 10:52

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34928372)
Another problem, of course, the problem is that this whole idiocy is linked to evangelical Christianity, which hates teh gayz.

That's a surprisingly ignorant comment from someone who normally prides himself on being so well-read on any subject he chooses to comment on.

Kymmy 17-12-2009 11:14

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Can I point out that this Ugandan law (the same as UK's original homosexual laws written during the victorian times) is aimed at gay males only. Apparently Victoria couldn't see the need for females to be included in the law...

Also I don't think it's anything about attraction or love towards a same sex partner but instead the act of sodomy concerning two males.

Most churches I know will welcome in gay couples who take a vow of abstainion from sex

Ramrod 17-12-2009 11:26

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34928868)
That's a surprisingly ignorant comment from someone who normally prides himself on being so well-read on any subject he chooses to comment on.

But isn't what he said true of some evangelical Christianity? I also thought it was :confused:

---------- Post added at 10:26 ---------- Previous post was at 10:25 ----------

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34928888)
Most churches I know will welcome in gay couples who take a vow of abstainion from sex

Thats all right then :rofl:

Kymmy 17-12-2009 11:30

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34928896)
[/COLOR]Thats all right then :rofl:

But that's the thing, the bible says that a man will not lay with another man, they take that as an interpretation of sex and nothing else...


Anyway I'm just putting facts across and not my own viewpoint.. :p:

Ramrod 17-12-2009 11:32

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34928900)
Anyway I'm just putting facts across and not my own viewpoint.. :p:

I know, it just made me laugh :tu: :D

LondonRoad 17-12-2009 11:33

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34928900)
But that's the thing, the bible says that a man will not lay with another man, they take that as an interpretation of sex and nothing else...


Anyway I'm just putting facts across and not my own viewpoint.. :p:

I interpret that as God wanting Bricklayers to work on their own. ;) I think the intention is to stop 2 brickies getting together to build a tower up to heaven. :D

Chris 17-12-2009 11:38

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34928896)
But isn't what he said true of some evangelical Christianity? I also thought it was :confused:

I'm not getting in to it just now Rammy, the topic really doesn't need to get hauled that far OT. But no, badly phrased sweeping generalisations of that kind are not true.

Ramrod 17-12-2009 12:36

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34928908)
But no, badly phrased sweeping generalisations of that kind are not true.

Fairy nuff :tu: :D

pabscars 17-12-2009 12:47

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Originally Posted by Nidge (Post 34928798)
What do you expect from a country like that?? Being gay is not a crime, some of my mates are gay and I trust them with my life. I'd sooner be in a room full of gay people than a room full of straight people.

As long as you had your back against the wall :D

I,d sooner be in a room full of Lesbians:D:D

On a more serious note, surely this cant possibly be accepted/allowed or passed, not in this day and age.

downquark1 17-12-2009 12:52

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Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34928372)
" What a complete non-question. "

Not really, it's a scandalous distraction from a genuine and extremely worrying development. A lot of the BBC's HYS stuff is pandering to morons, which is apparently more important than, say, investigating the news. It's cheaper, I suppose.

Another problem, of course, the problem is that this whole idiocy is linked to evangelical Christianity, which hates teh gayz.

Well morons are part of the public, so it's in their remit.

But the distinction between journalism and internet trolling is narrowing day by day.

papa smurf 17-12-2009 15:48

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Originally Posted by Keyz333 (Post 34928375)
That's completely stupid.

Life imprisonment for being Homosexual?

and 'Attempted Homosexuality' ..

Most of all a death sentence for being gay.. It's just sick..

its Uganda.. and British tolerance hasn't permeated that far down the pecking order ,but its their country and their rules who are we to judge who gets executed .

Kymmy 17-12-2009 15:56

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34929103)
its Uganda.. and British tolerance hasn't permeated that far down the pecking order ,but its their country and their rules who are we to judge who gets executed .

We will always judge by our own standards, same as for example the united nations.. We easily forget though that these people don't live in the UK, don't have the same upbringing or morals as a person in the UK.. It's as though they're 100 years behind us and desperately trying to catch up and thinking that what we used to do is OK for them to do now.. :(

Earl of Bronze 17-12-2009 16:41

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Personally I'm of the opinion that the only people who should get executed are the small minded, morally bankrupt, bigoted, intellectually retarded, evangelical christians from the US that pushed for this law. They know they could never get this sort of law in the US without someone slotting them. So they exported their hateful, bile filled bigotry to the third world....

It's enough to make you dispair for the future of the human race.... :(

Damien 17-12-2009 18:02

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34929145)
Personally I'm of the opinion that the only people who should get executed are the small minded, morally bankrupt, bigoted, intellectually retarded, evangelical christians from the US that pushed for this law. They know they could never get this sort of law in the US without someone slotting them. So they exported their hateful, bile filled bigotry to the third world....

It's enough to make you dispair for the future of the human race.... :(

Please we need some people left in the country :erm:

Earl of Bronze 17-12-2009 19:08

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34929195)
Please we need some people left in the country :erm:

Ahhhhh ! Do we have to ?

*stomps of throwing his toys on the floor* ;)

Halcyon 17-12-2009 19:20

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I remember once reading somewhere someone saying that being gay was a disease or that people were abducted by aliens and turned gay.

LMAO!

What a load of rubbish!

People who think gay people should be executed should themselves be executed in that case.
How are gay people a problem? They are humans like everyone else.
Whatever you do in your private life is up to you.

papa smurf 17-12-2009 22:25

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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 34929258)
I remember once reading somewhere someone saying that being gay was a disease or that people were abducted by aliens and turned gay.

LMAO!

What a load of rubbish!

People who think gay people should be executed should themselves be executed in that case.
How are gay people a problem? They are humans like everyone else.
Whatever you do in your private life is up to you.

thats why everyone wants to migrate to the UK we are a very tolerant society ,who keep our noses out of the next persons business, sadly most of the rest of the world have a bit of catching up to do .

Earl of Bronze 18-12-2009 01:50

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34929269)
thats why everyone wants to migrate to the UK we are a very tolerant society ,who keep our noses out of the next persons business

I take it you haven't spotted any of those pesky, and rather intrusive CCTV cameras dotting the nation.... Ofc they aren't there to protect the public from real criminals. They are there so that we can all be caught on camera, doing something silly, before getting lifted and given a criminal record! ;):p:

cookie_365 18-12-2009 16:29

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Can I nominate the guy who I thought was my boyfriend, who introduced me to this rather cute Portuguese boy with the words 'Here's your replacement. Now f*** off'

:cry:

frogstamper 19-12-2009 03:59

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Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34929680)
Can I nominate the guy who I thought was my boyfriend, who introduced me to this rather cute Portuguese boy with the words 'Here's your replacement. Now f*** off'

:cry:

Irrespective if he was gay or straight cookie, he sounds like a thoroughly repulsive maggot, your better off without him.
BTW not all us guys in Brighton came from the Alf Garnett school of charm:)

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Originally Posted by padscars
As long as you had your back against the wall. snip

I thought these rather "sad jokes" went out with the likes of Jim Davidson, Gary Bushell and Bernard Manning.:rolleyes:

Derek 19-12-2009 11:37

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Maybe someone wants to ask this nancy boy pansy what he thinks*

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...sh/8421956.stm

*Not me obviously. I like my head still attached to my shoulders and not removed and shoved somewhere unpleasant

On a wider note will this lead to more footballers and rugby players coming out? The only one I can think of before this is Justin Fashanu.

Russ 19-12-2009 11:42

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Good on him. He's worn the Red Dragon with pride.

Earl of Bronze 19-12-2009 11:50

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Good om Gareth Thomas for comming out and being more at peace with himself. :)

It just so happens there is an all gay rugby team, playing in the same league as my old rugby team. I've been told they get tanked every game, but haven't heard of them getting any grief otherwise.... Ofc, being rugby players we aren't PC, so I'm sure they do get a bit of freindly banter thrown their way. Then again, if you cant take a bit of a slagging, then rugby really isn't the game for you. :p:

broadbandking 22-12-2009 11:51

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Really sick views of Uganda there, however I will say gay people in my eyes are just people like everyone, I hate it when a gay person shouts up about been gay so what your a person why shout about it, its your choice not everone needs to know.

Been gay isn't that special you have to annouce it to everyone, people these days minus a few are fine with it and see it as normal.

Maggy 22-12-2009 11:55

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34929999)

On a wider note will this lead to more footballers and rugby players coming out? The only one I can think of before this is Justin Fashanu.

Only those footballers with their money made and invested and at the end of their careers..with nothing to lose in coming out.The FA and such are such dinosaurs on anything that isn't money related.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 11:59

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34931418)
I hate it when a gay person shouts up about been gay so what your a person why shout about it, its your choice not everone needs to know..

But then everyone doesn't need an engagement ring shoved in thier face by someone who's just got engaged but people do it to enforce the fact that they're entering a marraige..

Being proud of a fact is one thing, trying to enforce your view on others is something else entirely and that's what I don't agree..

If you're gay then it's you who are gay and not everyone around you, same with geting married, religion, morales, ethics...etc...

LondonRoad 22-12-2009 12:09

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It's a good thing that people are more willing to declare their sexuality nowadays. I have an Uncle who is gay but remains firmly "in the closet". He's had the same partner for over 30 years but still can't bring himself to come out. It's his decision but I'd prefer if he was open. As it is we have to tiptoe round the sexuality thing and it makes it awkward at times. For example at family occasions we can't include his partner in invites although it's probably the person he's closest to. We do try to get round by suggesting he bring his "friend" along to drive so he can have a drink, but it's all a bit contrived.

broadbandking 22-12-2009 13:11

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34931426)
But then everyone doesn't need an engagement ring shoved in thier face by someone who's just got engaged but people do it to enforce the fact that they're entering a marraige..

Being proud of a fact is one thing, trying to enforce your view on others is something else entirely and that's what I don't agree..

If you're gay then it's you who are gay and not everyone around you, same with geting married, religion, morales, ethics...etc...

Whilst I agree with your comments, I was pointing out from my view people have accpeted gay people and now they are classed as normal (which I agree they are) so why shout about it I am straight and I don't go round shouting it out, nor do famous people, there is no need.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 13:17

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So how many gay people do you think go round shouting I AM GAY!!! or for that matter "I'M THE ONLY GAY IN THE VILLAGE" ;)

I gave the engagement ring example as in the end it is exactly the same behaviour.. It's reaffirming the fact that someone is sexually attracted to someone else... Some people are like this others are not, but it's hardly purely a gay thing ;)

Russ 22-12-2009 14:15

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I don't know of many Engagement Pride marches.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 14:21

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True but there are many carnivals/festivities the world over which celebrates marriage, religion and even death.. The weirdest I heard of was for sex workers in 2001

As I said it's not just a gay thing ;)

Russ 22-12-2009 14:35

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34931508)
True but there are many carnivals/festivities the world over which celebrates marriage, religion and even death.. The weirdest I heard of was for sex workers in 2001

As I said it's not just a gay thing ;)

Again, I don't remember seeing any engagement or marriage 'pride' marches or carnivals.

I just don't get it. OK there are still prejudices against gays today but surely the world is a lot more tolerant and respectful towards them than it was say 20 years ago. Granted there are still cases of gay-bashing but in general the world seems to have moved on somewhat from the 'Alf Garnett' types of the 70s.

I really don't see why I should have someone's sexuality paraded in front of me. Whatever we get up to behind closed doors surely should stay behind closed doors.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 14:51

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Russ, your selection of the single fact of 'prides' is very acute to the subject especially when I'm simply trying to point out that sexuality is like anything else celebrated around the world just as much around the world by hetrosexual people as well as gay people..


Even so just because you haven't seen a hetrosexual pride march it doesn't mean to say they don't exist :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwW8UfGBR48

As for Marraige prides they tend to be mixed gay and hetro, pity though everyone just remembers it because there's a load of Gay people in it :cry:

Russ 22-12-2009 15:04

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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34931519)
Russ, your selection of the single fact of 'prides' is very acute to the subject especially when I'm simply trying to point out that sexuality is like anything else celebrated around the world just as much around the world by hetrosexual people as well as gay people..


Even so just because you haven't seen a hetrosexual pride march it doesn't mean to say they don't exist :rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwW8UfGBR48

As for Marraige prides they tend to be mixed gay and hetro, pity though everyone just remembers it because there's a load of Gay people in it :cry:

But 'Gay Pride' marches seems to be greater in number than any other sort of public celebration of someone's life. I don't see why someone sexuality has to be such a factor anymore.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 15:09

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I didn't say they weren't, remember that being gay hasnt quite been legal for as long as being straight, you hetro's are now all partied out and it's our turn!!! ;)

Seriously though most gay people wouldn't be seen dead at a gay pride march, that's normally left to all the drag queens and transvestites....

LondonRoad 22-12-2009 15:10

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I think that gays became politicised because of the need to protest against the archaic laws that prevented them from having many of the liberties most of us take for granted. That's probably why they are more vocal and more likely to celebrate their sexuality.

Kymmy 22-12-2009 21:37

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Getting back to the main topic there's something I didn't know about the Ugandan Gay sex death penalty..That is it's not going to be the standard penalty for gay sex, instead there are conditions

Gay sex with a minor or disabled person
If you are HIV positive
Or you are a serial offender

Still not being acceptable it does put a new light on the issue as Normal Gay sex with another consenting adult is only life imprisonment :rolleyes:

Updated story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8412962.stm


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