The Bible 'was changed by liberals'
 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34270487...ith/?GT1=43001

Their key argument seems to be that most scholars are liberal, therefore they cannot be trusted to translate the bible.

I am not sure he wants to inadvertently link people who are educated to liberalism but obviously people have such education should not be trusted to translate the bible. Much better to have ill-educated internet trolls to translate it in a manor more fitting their political views. None of this "do onto others" rubbish.

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This is the sort of loony undertaking that would neither exist, nor get discussed, were it not for the wonders of the worldwide intrawebs. There's nothing like a good website for conferring legitimacy on a bunch of fringe nutcases.

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Just out of interest what is the "definitive" version of the Holy Book, as I know there are several versions out there?

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Um, I like this one ;) :D

No, seriously tho..... I'm not sure which would be the 'definitive' version, but I've read two or three different ones.

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"Several versions" is a bit of an overstatement. ;)

First, ignore anything that's not written in Hebrew/Aramaic (for the Old Testament) or Greek (for the New Testament). Anything that isn't in the original language is just a translation and by its nature not definitive. There are some extremely good translations and there are some pretty poor ones too.

In the original languages, the definitive Old Testament is the Masoretic Text. In the New Testament it's a little more complicated - the 1611 King James ('Authorised Version') is based on Textus Receptus, whilst most modern translations are based on NU-Text. In practice there's no significant difference between the two, just a few words here or there and nothing that changes any aspect of doctrine.

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The trouble is - the more often I read it, the more questions I get.

I got hold of it in DAISY a while back too, just to give it another go.

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And the $64,000.00 question is! Did you find any answers?

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changed by liberals :mad: I'm outraged :shocked:beside myself with shock ,i have no words:sleep:

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I guess I did at that.

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I would have said mis-translated as the mark of the beast has been translated wrong, its not 666 but 616 (according to QI)

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No room for complaint now I suppose, after all the original versions of the new testament cobbled together by the early church replaced Christ's gnosticism with wishy washy salvation theology.

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I heard an interview with a theologian on the radio a while back. Basically, he was saying that no-one that had done any serious study of the Bible would defend the statement that the Bible was the literal word of God and should be taken literally.

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Reminds me of something I read in a book once.. The author was an ex monk, so should know what he is talking about, and he was talking about how the Catholic church has been known to change to a totally opposing view on certain subjects, and has blamed it on the bible apparently suddenly not being clear..

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This was announced a good few months ago must be a slow news day.

This is the same guy who hounded a biologist to release thousands of bacterial samples to him because he didn't believe they were evolving.

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nothing wrong with a little proof ;)

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Like 7 plagues?;)

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:Yikes: You're kidding?!

Cripes, I've just wasted the last 20 years of my life. Anyone know where I can hand in my Bible?

:dozey:

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eureka moment or sarcasm ;)???

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I'll let you guess. ;)

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In thruth, I can't say this dude and his "conservative christian" mates attempts to rewrite the bible to suite their needs really makes any difference to me.

If I want to read fantasy I'll read LotR or Dragonlance.... It's still nonsense and bullsnot wether its got a liberal or conservative slant.... :rolleyes:

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Well it's amazing - you learn something every day. I always thought that this document was the definitive manual for shepherds (world wide) on how to control and manage sheep?

Guess one has to suppose that the methods change as the human race evolves over the years, but the principles remain the same.

Well there you go!

Si thee

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:clap::clap::clap: oh yea

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We in reality have no real proof one way or the other that the bible is nothing more than just a book of stories or fables.

No one and I repeat no one can show 100% irrefutable proof that the bible is what all believers say it is the word of god.

The bible is a book that people base their beliefs on and they have no way of truly knowing that the written word they believe in was written at the time of the events or even if it was written by the alleged author.

It is more likely to be a book of stories handed down and altered to suit throughout the centuries.

Unless we can travel back in time the is no real way that we can prove one way or the other the validity of the bible.

That aside I do applaud people who have the unshakable belief that this book is real and live their lives by its values.

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apparently the theory of God needs no proof .

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No proof of existence just peoples belief once again, and I know belief can be a powerful thing.

A Typo.

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was that a typo or a Freudian slip :D

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You make it sound like we claim there is such proof :dozey:

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Maybe Red Dwarf had the right ideal in the Series 2 Episode "Better than life"

:D

:angel:

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Of course you being a believer require no proof hence the last line of my post is below.

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You miss my point. Several people on here often assert that there's no way anyone can prove it's all true. I think we all know about that - you're not going to find anyone here to disagree with you.

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Do you believe in the bible yourself or parts of it then.

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I don't see how what I believe in is connected to people claiming proof of the bible :confused:

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Maybe not as that would take this thread off on a tangent, belief is personal choice.

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It's a fair subject but I'd rather keep this one on-topic as well know how they usually turn out. But asking someone specifically about what they believe can be seen as bad form. I don't get offended as long as people realise belief IS personal and I won't always go in to detail about some things.

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My bad as that was quite the wrong question to ask in this type of thread.

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The truly sad part of this rather ridiculous story, is that children of these right-wing evangelicals are being spoon fed crap like conservapedia and young earth theory as fact...
I can't think of any where else in the western world where this ideological dogma would be lapped up so voraciously as it is in vast swaths of the US, personally I believe the children that are being encouraged to swallow this rubbish are literally being brainwashed.
Thankfully the vast majority of these extremists do not own a passport. (I've no doubt they believe the "devil" lives in Europe anyway).:)

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Close, but no cigar frogstamper.... ;)