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Sephiroth 04-12-2009 10:09

Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Oh dear. There's a gaffe if ever there was one. Here's some speculation:

1 They're purging criticism

2 They'll "accidentally" lose the database & start again or roll back to a convenient date

3 There's too much reference to their Quality Director's statement that their processes were "fundamentally broken"

4 The site actually needs "maintenance" - eh?

If it's genuine maintenance, through the timing, VM have laid themselves open to potentially damaging speculation!

BenMcr 04-12-2009 10:13

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
I've not seen any other 'damaging speculation' apart from what you've just written

Do you have similiar thoughts when Cableforum goes offline?

Also it looks like it's back up (with all posts intact)

Sephiroth 04-12-2009 10:16

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34920811)
I've not seen any other speculation apart from what you've just written

Very observant. Someone had to be first. It would have been more helpful if you could have knocked my speculation (1 to 3) down with some facts about their suspiciously timed closure for "maintenance".

Doesn't my speculation tell you something about VM's current standing and image with its customers? The fact that VM is open to the sort of speculation I offer is something for which VM should be ashamed.

EDIT

The Virgin Media forum is back up. So 25% of my speculation was correct! Just goes to show the reputational state VM has reached that there is cause for cynicism.

BenMcr 04-12-2009 10:18

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
1) It's online with all posts intact

2) It's online with all posts intact

3) It's online with all posts intact

4) Yes, looks like it did

ahardie 04-12-2009 10:53

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34920813)
Very observant. Someone had to be first. It would have been more helpful if you could have knocked my speculation (1 to 3) down with some facts about their suspiciously timed closure for "maintenance".

Doesn't my speculation tell you something about VM's current standing and image with its customers? The fact that VM is open to the sort of speculation I offer is something for which VM should be ashamed.

EDIT

The Virgin Media forum is back up. So 25% of my speculation was correct! Just goes to show the reputational state VM has reached that there is cause for cynicism.

Of course it could be argued that you are 75% wrong and you were just being too cynical Sephiroth :D.

Sirius 04-12-2009 11:32

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34920814)
1) It's online with all posts intact

2) It's online with all posts intact

3) It's online with all posts intact

4) Yes, looks like it did

:clap:

Hugh 04-12-2009 12:56

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Whoda thunk a technology system needing maintenance?

Sirius 04-12-2009 13:34

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34920891)
Whoda thunk a technology system needing maintenance?

Indeed, I have never seen any other forum require it :rolleyes:

Sephiroth 04-12-2009 14:20

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahardie (Post 34920821)
Of course it could be argued that you are 75% wrong and you were just being too cynical Sephiroth :D.

Agreed. But it's nearly the 80:20 rule. I was at least 75% justified in my cynicism for being only 25% right.

Stuart 04-12-2009 14:24

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34920809)
Oh dear. There's a gaffe if ever there was one. Here's some speculation:

1 They're purging criticism

2 They'll "accidentally" lose the database & start again or roll back to a convenient date

3 There's too much reference to their Quality Director's statement that their processes were "fundamentally broken"

4 The site actually needs "maintenance" - eh?

If it's genuine maintenance, through the timing, VM have laid themselves open to potentially damaging speculation!


You missed one:

5 Something could have fallen over (like the backend database server), causing the forum software to display the maintenance message because it couldn't access the database.. IIRC, this forum does when the database falls over..

Hugh 04-12-2009 15:59

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34920913)
Agreed. But it's nearly the 80:20 rule. I was at least 75% justified in my cynicism for being only 25% right.

Hold on, hold on - by that logic the following is also valid.

1) you are a two-headed alien baby-eater
2) you molest baby aardvarks
3) your forum name is Sephiroth
4) everything you post is wrong

I am at least 25% right, which does not validate the other 75% of the propositions.....;)

raefil 04-12-2009 16:10

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Am I the only one who actually think VM is fine. I have TV, no problems, broadband, no problems, telephone, no problems even got 4 mobiles in the house all on virgin network. Absolutely no problems whatever.

Toto 04-12-2009 17:50

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raefil (Post 34920996)
Am I the only one who actually think VM is fine. I have TV, no problems, broadband, no problems, telephone, no problems even got 4 mobiles in the house all on virgin network. Absolutely no problems whatever.

No, you're not the only one :)

Sephiroth 04-12-2009 18:04

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34920987)
Hold on, hold on - by that logic the following is also valid.

1) you are a two-headed alien baby-eater
2) you molest baby aardvarks
3) your forum name is Sephiroth
4) everything you post is wrong

I am at least 25% right, which does not validate the other 75% of the propositions.....;)

Phew!

steveg 27-12-2009 20:44

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raefil (Post 34920996)
Am I the only one who actually think VM is fine. I have TV, no problems, broadband, no problems, telephone, no problems even got 4 mobiles in the house all on virgin network. Absolutely no problems whatever.

Nope - me too, I have the "full service" (actually not - I don't have virgin mobile) and have had virtually no problems at all in more than 10 years as a customer - I think during that time I have only had 4 or 5 times when service was down, and then at the most for a few hours. Engineers ahev arrived when they should and have completed the work in good order and quickly (does my making them tea and coffee and with biscuits cause this?). When I have called a support line (very rarely) I have been treated efficiently and courteously and where merited have been offered a credit back.

I would have no hesitation in recommending Virginmedia

(and no, I don't work for them or ant part of any other part of the Virgin group - I am a real ordinary customer)

webcrawler2050 27-12-2009 21:18

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
That place is like hell. It's constant battles with "customers" no matter how hard you try to help, they wear and are down right horrid. The palce is too loosley moderated, VM staff don't help at all. Well, a small few try but they dont do much. As for the "head of the forum" hes about as usefull as a chocolate fire guard.

I reccomend Vm to everyone. Theres always going to be issues, it's the way "customers" moan, like it's the end of the world.

Sirius 28-12-2009 03:02

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webcrawler 2050 (Post 34934005)
That place is like hell. It's constant battles with "customers" no matter how hard you try to help, they wear and are down right horrid. The place is too loosely moderated, VM staff don't help at all. Well, a small few try but they dont do much. As for the "head of the forum" hes about as useful as a chocolate fire guard.

I recommend Vm to everyone. There's always going to be issues, it's the way "customers" moan, like it's the end of the world.

I made a decision to stay away from that forum, Thanks for reminding me what a good decision i made :)

webcrawler2050 28-12-2009 10:40

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Yup me too. I asked them to delete my account as it was getting me really pent up. I kist gave up, the people are horrid :(

Peter_ 28-12-2009 10:46

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by webcrawler2050 (Post 34934256)
Yup me too. I asked them to delete my account as it was getting me really pent up. I kist gave up, the people are horrid :(

No surprises there then, without doubt a waste of time if the members are allowed to run wild like you say then it will no doubt end up closing down.

greyposter 28-12-2009 10:54

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
I have TV,BB and landline and no problem.

Peter_ 28-12-2009 10:55

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greyposter (Post 34934263)
I have TV,BB and landline and no problem.

This thread is about the Virgin forum not your services with them.;)

webcrawler2050 28-12-2009 12:46

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34934260)
No surprises there then, without doubt a waste of time if the members are allowed to run wild like you say then it will no doubt end up closing down.



Possibly, I just gave up

Ignitionnet 28-12-2009 13:58

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
I have no real problem there, just a case of remembering that it's Virgin that people are upset with, and to keep posts directed and constructive. Most people there tend to have already been through the first line 'support' so have to be somewhat careful not to patronise or waste time.

I appear, say my piece, pop a few constructive suggestions on a few threads, and disappear again.

It is largely a complete waste of time though until Virgin start to offer some more support on there directly from staff. People go on there expecting to receive assistance and answers from VM and are somewhat disappointed when it's largely not forthcoming.

webcrawler2050 28-12-2009 14:08

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34934355)
I have no real problem there, just a case of remembering that it's Virgin that people are upset with, and to keep posts directed and constructive. Most people there tend to have already been through the first line 'support' so have to be somewhat careful not to patronise or waste time.

I appear, say my piece, pop a few constructive suggestions on a few threads, and disappear again.

It is largely a complete waste of time though until Virgin start to offer some more support on there directly from staff. People go on there expecting to receive assistance and answers from VM and are somewhat disappointed when it's largely not forthcoming.

Agreed. There is only so much we as "helpers" could do. Plus, customers took their frustrations out on each other and it's like world war 3 sometimes. Very hard to keep your tounge behind your teeth.

I think, VM needs to step it up a bit. For example, the Talk Talk forum, is a good service. Theres 10 tech's on there fault finding and diagnoising and fixing there.

Matth 30-12-2009 19:07

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Forum closed? - I'm getting "bad request" from www.virginmedia.com as well, or is it just me?

ahardie 30-12-2009 19:50

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34935941)
Forum closed? - I'm getting "bad request" from www.virginmedia.com as well, or is it just me?

Working for me.

Tech_Boy 30-12-2009 19:51

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34935941)
Forum closed? - I'm getting "bad request" from www.virginmedia.com as well, or is it just me?


it is working fine on an Ex NTL Broadband connection;)

Digital Fanatic 30-12-2009 22:15

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
sad, but I also gave up on that forum... it really needs more mods and to be worked like the VM newsgroups are.

The place is horrible... :(

joglynne 31-12-2009 00:25

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
I found myself getting very depressed by the atmosphere over there and kept wanting to tell people to come over to this forum for some proper help, so I stopped visiting in case the temptation became to hard to suppress.

It's a shame because VM could really have made a difference if they had had a more proactive approach to it's customers problems.

VMboy 31-12-2009 04:54

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raefil (Post 34920996)
Am I the only one who actually think VM is fine. I have TV, no problems, broadband, no problems, telephone, no problems even got 4 mobiles in the house all on virgin network. Absolutely no problems whatever.

Yeah, but if you did have problems then you may actually think that VM isn't fine.

Your obviously going to think that VM is fine being that you have no problems.

:dozey:

Sephiroth 31-12-2009 17:58

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 34935941)
Forum closed? - I'm getting "bad request" from www.virginmedia.com as well, or is it just me?

Delete your cookies in Internet Options/Tools and you'll be able to reach the VM forum.

It's just another forum with much the same stuff as here. Webbie's over-egged it somwhat IMO.

Peter_ 31-12-2009 18:17

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34936484)

It's just another forum with much the same stuff as here. Webbie's over-egged it somwhat IMO.

I think you need to remove your glasses when over there.:D:D:D

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/12/3.jpg

webcrawler2050 31-12-2009 18:45

Re: Virgin Media Forum "closed for maintenance"
 
Quote:

Webbie's over-egged it somwhat IMO.
Maybe a liottle but, thats how I see. That place is just yuk


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