£1600 pw housing benefit!
 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/8832984

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

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This really annoys me. I was unemployed because my boss had to drop my wages so I left as i would a have been better of on benefits.

I am only 19 and live in my own house so £5 an hour is not use to me and I end up with £30 after paying rent ETC.

When I left my job and applied for Job seekers & Housing benefit I was refused because I left my job at my own accord.

For the past month I have had 0 money from DWP or housing benefit and finding it hard to survive!

People wonder why we are racist against them.

why don't they help people who really need it.

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So they were kicked out for being too noisy!?! It appears that Westminster Council were therefore obliged to rehouse them in the first 'suitable' property that came along.

On the plus side Westminster Council don't appear to like it either -

From - The Sun

So they may have their cake, but not be in there long enough to eat it!

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But there will be somebody working on their behalf to get them somewhere else equally as expensive and have enough capacity so that they don't have to keep bumping into each other.

then we'll look after our own homeless and over crowded problems.

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big issue here is more why we havnt got the council housing to house people

though i dont see a problem of putting them in a hostel instead that still costs more than if we had the council housing stock to do it with out using private landlords

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I really don't see why it's mentioned that they 'fled somalia' when there are often stories of Nick Griffin's "indigenous Britons" doing exactly the same.

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Just so the reader knows the reason why and when they came over here.

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The reason why we haven't got the housing stock is because of gross mis-management of the funds available from central gov.I think it was back in 1998 or there abouts that the gov announced a pledge to bring all social housing upto a "decent homes" standard by 2010 (it was a election manifesto promise)but what ended up happening in a lot of areas is mass demolition and only a small percentage getting included in the decent homes scheme

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As garyl said we need to know why they are here ,and from what i can gather about somalia it can be a pretty nasty place

Also i would wonder how many more cases there are like this

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Perhaps they didn't want this family being tarred with that particular brush... ;)

Anyway my main concern here is not the origin of the family, it's the huge sum involved. I guess the number of children is the primary determining factor but that opens up a whole new debate - at what point (if any) should the state determine that personal choices (e.g. having 8 children) can no longer directly/indirectly determine the level of entitlement to benefits?

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It can't, because the children didn't ask to be born into a reckless household. You can't watch them starve or become homeless, it's hardly their fault.

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Well it's clearly a very difficult issue and I certainly agree that the children aren't at fault and ought to be properly looked after whatever else happens. However, does that necessarily mean providing benefits the amount of which increases according to their number?

I believe the housing benefit figure quoted above is the maximum payable under the current 'system' so what happens to the children if their parents decide to carry on issuing forth and run out of room all over again? Surely, sooner or later the state would be forced to intervene and take the children away as happened in the case of the woman who had 13 children taken into care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/59...ant-again.html

I know these are extreme cases but in such circumstances is there ever an argument for the state taking action to prevent such people having more children in the first place?

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maybe we should stop being so sensitive with them and explain that we as a country are doing them a favour letting them stay here so please stop having kids and respect the fact that we are giving you free money and a free house neither of which you had back home

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That wouldn't alter the actions of all those who, like the mother of 13 cited above, aren't asylum seekers and continue to act in a thoroughly irresponsible manner at the taxpayers's expense.

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That's straight to the point. we could vet them and if we get the feeling that they're taking the pee then we impose sanctions.

like they lose any benefit for a set period of time. :)

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It doesn't worry you that the children will suffer?

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My wife & I both graft our preverbial nuts off and even we cant live to a higher standard than what these free loading immigrants have. Makes a mockery of everything hard working people stand for. Lazy good for nothing leeches thats what they are :mad:

Awaits PC brigade :rolleyes:

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No need to be Racist AT ALL:mad:

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Don't you get income-based JSA? You would still get Housing and Council Tax Benefit.

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They obviously fled Somalia, under fire, just managing to cross over the border into ............. Britain?:confused: This is an island and as such, the place where people were before was safe. It's not as if the airport in the capital was under attack. There are usually safe areas even in places like Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

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Don't the children who's parents are on suspended benefits suffer?

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This is totally disgraceful. :mad:.
My daughter and her other half with a year old baby, had to go and live in a one bedroomed hostel in Sawston for a year before being considered for a council house here in Cambridge.
They both worked and paid their taxes, but had to endure being placed next door to a drug addict and also opposite an alcoholic who threatened them once with a knife through the open window. ( It didn`t happen again though!) ;)

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This sort of situation makes me sick to the stomach, l have worked my nuts off for years, l have been unemployed three times, and the longest time l was out of work was three years, and we were given peanuts and when we applied for certain things we were turned down.

They get everything they want and it makes you want to puke, l know for a fact concerning these families, as we have a family that live next door, when our neighbour passed away five years ago, we were quite relieved when a nice family came to our door and introduce themself and two children, and were told they were moving in on the Monday.

11.45pm on the Sunday we heard noises from next door, so as a good neighbour l went to have a look, and there were seven women moving in, we found out they came from Somalia and this was there THIRD house since coming here in two years, we went through two months of hell, before we pulled the plug and did something, we found out that they were all on benefit, our weekly rent if £95 per week, we now get on quite well, BUT this thread is only the bottom of a big problem we have, They are moving onto our estates vertially on a weekly basis. Benefit agency and local councils should draw the line at what it pays out, give them dingy flats to live in until they find work and can pay the rent to get proper places.

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Nope I get nothing. I am begging left right and center to live. I called DWP today to get a review of my claim but they said its very doubted I will get anything. It's not my fault that the stupid goverment say as I am under 21 that I should be paid less than others. How am I suppose to live in £5 a hour.

I have also had a call by my housing officer saying that I will need to move out as I can't pay my rent. Now this is unfair. I may paint my self to see what happens and if I get treated differently.

I wonder why I pay tax. I have been working from the day I turned 16 to just a few months back.

Reason why I left my job:
Rent + council tax adds up to more than my wages

Reason why I dot get housing benefit or JSA:
I left a job that I would get my self in lots of debt with and was unable to pay rent.

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NICE regularly pull the plug on peoples lives for less than £1600.00 a week.

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Race has nothing to do with it, and there is *never* any justification for racism. Period.

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Don't go all American on us Stuart :)

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You appear to be contradicting yourself, and it would appear you are angry at others because you left your job, hoping to get benefits, without checking the rules.

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How much was your rent and why again did you leave your job?:erm:
Can`t see that your income would exceed your outgoings.!
Whats the minimum working hourly rate now?

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My rent is £80 a week plus £15 a week council tax. + gas etc. Thats me not even buying food.

£5 x 30 hours = £150 (£135 after tax.)

and its £4.77 is the min wage for my age.

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Someone on JSA would get whatever JSA is £60 a week?
plus the rent and tax paid, which comes to £155 a week. you are actually better off not working you're £20 a week better off already. before you save even more on not having to pay travel costs.

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people are getting far away from the main subject, the actual comment is * £1600 housing benefit* the problem the person in the picture is revelling in the fact of where he is along with his family, the council is to blame for this, they should have found him some house that is falling to pieces, that many council tenants have to live in, when my mothers house got destroyed by fire, she was put in a one room apartment which was that small, you couldn't swing a cat, and she lived there for three weeks with my two brothers.

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Go and work for Aldi or Tesco, the hourly rate here in Cambridge is about £7.50 p/h for stacking shelves in Aldi in Histon Road.;)

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Thats my point for leaving my job after a week. DWP don't understand that I was putting my self in hardship by still working.

I wish it was that simple now. Because of all the recession issue people like asda etc who used to pay a general wage for all staff have dipped down to min wage for people under 21.

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ageed ,we could be paying for at least 4 mp's in that house instead, nice and handy for the houses of parliament

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So.... because your job doesn't pay enough,you expect the rest of society to pay your way for you? How about getting a second job? Or a better paid one?

I can't believe you have the cheek to come to this thread,post racist cr.. , when in fact you are no different from the very leechers you so readily criticise... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

my oh my,pls.go back to go and do not collect £200. Game over. :dunce:

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I don't wish society to pay my way for me.

I could not afford to pay my bills so if I kept working society would be paying for all the calls + letters to collect money.

Would you work to be left with minus at the end of the week? I don't plan on being a bum. I do look and apply for atleat 5 jobs a day. I dont want to be taken money and going into a JCP.

Anyway I am not the one taken 1600 a week from them. I get NOTHING!

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Umm,say what? You put yourself in hardship by still working? :disturbd::rofl:
You're the kind of indigenous person who ruined the work ethic of this great nation,too good to do the dirty work.... :rolleyes:

If this attitude is common in your age bracket I am not surprised there are so many unemployed young people....

As much as I do not like the Tories,and least they will hopefully have the guts to sort this benefits mess out.No wonder people have no incentive to work...

David,your posting here is highly ironic..... you and your attitude is just as much a valid reason to reform the benefits system as this family. :argue:

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The family that are living in that house would need a very good job to be able to afford the £400 a week rent for a house that suits their needs as a family.

their attitude would be that they can't afford to go to work.

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you should lay off the kid ,why should he work for a minus sum when immigrants come to this country and get given houses and money without contributing anything ?
and where has he been racist ?all he said was
"People wonder why we are racist against them." well there's your answer that's why people are racist and untill we stop pandering to immigrants people will continue to be racist

so get off your high horse and stop being such a pompous git :dunce:

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Well hardship was the term the adviser said to me at the JCP.

She said I was the 5th person that day to be in the benefit trap.

I see why you want the Tories they seem to be doing something about hardship;

http://www.regen.net/news/ByDiscipli...it-trap-ideas/

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But if you had stayed in your job, you would be able to pay your rent and have a small amount of money left over - now you have nothing.

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Wrong.

Rent + council tax + food + bus fairs = way more than £135 a week.

*edit* forgot gas and electric bills

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Not what you originally posted.

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no he wouldn't he wouldn't be able to buy food he is in the benefit trap all to common for people on the minimum wage it's definately a case for overhauling the minimum wage system .Why do young kids get less than older people for doing the same job, working the same hours as far as i'm concerned the minimum wage is a excuse for employers to get cheap labour

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Analysing peoples posts gets boring on Mondays. especially when it could be seen as a diversion away from the real spongers ;)

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Yes well sorry for not posting all my accounts correctly.

if you wish I can right down all my bills and you can look over?

I like how I get attacked but those idiots who get £1600 seem to have been forgotten about.

ALL I WANT IN LIFE IS A JOB THAT PAYS A FAIR WAGE AND PAY MY WAY LIKE I WAS PREVIOUSLY DOING! AND HAVE DONE SINCE I WAS 16

Do you think its fair that I have been left to starve basicly? and these people get £1600. If anything you should be on my side. You seem more angry at me trying to get a LITTLE help. £60 a week! not £1600 a week!

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Huh? I am a pompous git for suggesting he find himself a second job to pay his bills? :LOL:

Also,what have those immigrants to do with his personal situation? I f he hadn't quit his job,he would still be earning money,wouldn't he? :rolleyes:

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wow,somebody with common sense around here..... ;)

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You quit your job,didn't you?So you let yourself starve,basically?

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Have you not been reading my posts?

tell me how I would be left with money? and also how I could work two jobs?

9-4 my hours would a have been. Do you expect me to work night shift also or something?

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All he has done is made the mistake of not knowing that he can't claim yet because he left his job and didn't lose it.

regardless of that. he originally said "why don't they help people who really need it."

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It's not up to me to tell you how to live your life.All i know is you quit your job,9-4,as you said.How about another job,3/4 days a week 6-10? Something like that?

but I guess you already made your attitude clear... you'd rather live on benefits (=taxpayers expense) ,than go through the hardship of working long hours for little money.:rolleyes:

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No,that's not the mistake he made,and you know that.... stop making excuses for that kind of attitude when you clearly know better.... :td:

Does David REALLY need it though? Is he not capable of looking for another job to support himself? :confused:

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I wont get little money. I will be left with no money and would be having to ask people for money to pay my bills.

Then the cycle would go on and on and on. Are you that stupid that you don't understand what i am saying.

And i think i am entitled to a little bit of that tax that i paid over the past 3 years of working.

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AGAIN YOU ARE NOT READING WHAT I AM SAYING I SAID I APPLY FOR ATLEAST 5 JOBS A DAY SO HOW AM I NOT LOOKING FOR A JOB TO SUPPORT MY SELF.?

Do you think I really want to be in this position of living in a house I can't pay for and stuggle? ofcourse not I am not a waster like most people.

I have a job in mind. Full time immigrant junkie! Then I will be plated in Gold!

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Did you just call me stupid? It's easy to do on a forum,isn't it? I wonder if you would have the guts face to face?

Anyway,like I said,you quit your job and now you decide to leech... well done! :clap:

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:zzz::zzz::zzz:

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:erm:

David is what they call 'suffering hardship' the only difference is that it was self inflicted. but hardship is hardship at the end of the day.

The same could be said for a lot of people on benefits at the moment. a lot of them are capable of finding a job to support themselves, but either getting the job is one thing. and being better off on the dole is another.

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I would say it to your face. Don't think because I am on a forum I am a "gangster". You are the one trying to bully a little kid just trying to get a point across.

Anyway is that a threat? haha. Actually I would not say it to your face, but laugh in your face lol. Don't believe in violence. I am a grown up.

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thank you,we're finally getting somewhere....

He had a job,albeit low-paid.He quit the the job,expecting to receive benefits.

Had he looked for another,better paid job,or gotten a second job,he could have worked himself out of this situation.
I just can't imagine it being pleasant for him to ask for that money...

So I just don't understand how he can come here,and rant about those asylum seekers?Does he deserve the help when he is in that situation,having gotten into it the way he did? :confused:

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Wow,now I am bullying you and making threats.... :naughty:

You are no better than this family,period.For you to rant like that when you are just as bad as them takes quite something. :banghead:[COLOR="Silver"]

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But then you could argue that immigrants don't have to have been sacked from their job. they just need to make their way here and get a £400 a week rent free house for their big family.

while an already over crowded 'English' family are deemed not eligible for state help, and are expected to suffer hardship as there is nothing available and it costs money.

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Yes I deserve help. I don't see why not?

Like everyone my boss is also struggling for business. I dont 100% think I should get JSA but I think my boss should a have got some aid as he is only a small business and I was not the only one to leave.

That would a have been a better solution.

And yes sounds like a threat to me.

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Neither deserves state help..... sorry,I am not saying that an english person shouldn't get help and immigrants should....neither deserves benefits,exceptin extreme circumstances,and if it wasn't their own fault?

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yes he does ,he has contributed to the benefit system they haven't,
granted he was a bit naive but he is 19 and does deserve the help of his government
I would like to know if you have ever been in his position if you have then try offering some advice to him instead of pillorying him for daring to assume he may get a bit of support from a system he has paid into

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Nope,just wondering why you feel the need to call me stupid?

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Sorry,no,I haven't.... I guess in Socialist Nu Labour Britain I should be ashamed for that... ;)

also,I have offered him advice.... get multiple jobs to pay bills? :confused:

Ok,I'll stop it here as advised by Rob,otherwise I may end up having to defend myself for actually working and paying taxes... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Very wise.....can we get back to the topic at hand now please?

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As it is, David isn't entitled to help. but they class hardship as suffering, and the immigrants are suffering from not having a house with 4 bathrooms.

they don't seem to class all as the same. they seem to prioritise one against the other. and the other always seems to be the one who has a long history of being more British than the other.

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Well I have had to defend why I left my job!

back to the post in hand.

I wonder for how long this £1600 a week has been paid to them. It says they came here in 1991 and lost there previous home. I wonder if they have ever worked.

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Probably. when they were living in a little over crowded flat that was too small for them. but all they could afford from the wage they were earning.

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still bickering? ;)

well,the £1600 have been paid for far too long....

Gary,no one should be favoured over the other,and this story is a disgrace,and a timely reminder that our benefits system needs urgent reform.:td:

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Which I agree with. I remember when my father was amongst the few that worked amongst all the others that didn't.
he was worse off for it, and he knew it. but he carried on working to pay for all the things that the others got free for not working.

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Can anyone tell me how long our benefits system has been put in place and if its been the same since it started?

Again I really don't understand how and why people can get in and get so much money with ease.

Also I did not think the council had stock housing worth that much

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There's actually people who's job it is to make sure that people get help financially for everything they need. you have to be unemployed to qualify.

if you get given a car to transport your family. you can sell it to the breakers for £40. he'll take advantage, and you can feel rich by suddenly not understanding English again :)

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Somewhere I read that local estate agents think the rent being paid is twice the market value.... I think that happens a lot.As soon as the gov gets involved landlords get pound signs in their eyes and charge a nice premium rate! :rolleyes:

At the end of the day they know that they will get the rent,after all the gov won't go bust or not pay up... or move away,for that matter ! :erm:

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Surely the telly,Hi-Fi and furniture wasn't paid by the government as well?? :confused:

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If you think about it, it must be.

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But they already have that control. It was the local authority's decision to put them into that property in the first place.

An incompetent council waisting money on an unnecessary home. Nothing new there.

Mind you, something tells me that they perhaps should have looked harder for a more appropriate home. Do you think they may have been trying to make a point, at the the expense of the taxpayer?

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Nonsense, it was the Thatcher government's decision to prevent local authorities from spending the receipts, from housing sales, to build more housing stock.

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How would you have fared if you were paid only four pounds an hour? As much as the minimum wage is not a lot for someone of your age (or any other age for that matter), at least there is actually a minimum wage.

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It is that comment that is nonsense.

First of all, the council houses that were sold had families living in them. So the number of Council houses would go down by x houses, but the number of families that the Council were responsible for, would go down by the same number.

Secondly, no matter how many Council houses were built, this family would not be housed in any of them, because of the size and make-up(ages of children) of the family.

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:confused: The rent in question here is £1600 pw - that's £83,200 pa :shocked:

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And that's after Tax etc.

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LOL I've only just realised it's a week not a month!

THROW THEM OUT. I'M NOT CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THAT!

If they were working they'd have to rent wherever they could afford to rent. if it's too small then do what everybody else has to do. sort something out for themselves.

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Unless you live in Westminster, you're not contributing towards that.

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I can't afford to live in Westminster.

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my neither -- asylum please

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I think the rules are that you have to be non British to be eligible.

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Ah - those would be "Gary's imaginary rules".......

(which do not take into account that the family, although they come from Somalia, are now British Citizens, and their children were all born in the UK).

(or do you subscribe to a certain political party's definition of "British"?)

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You have to be Non British in the first place. what has this family got to do with anything now that they qualified long ago?

Do you mean the Labour party?

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No, i think you'll find that benefit regulations are put in place by the DWP. Homelessness and Housing allocation rules also come from some central government department or another. Local authorities have no flexibility at all in this.

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Aah I see and just when would you expect those people to stop having children? Where were they going to live? Why then, do the councils now rely on private landlords, more and more, to provide social housing? Ironically many in the very same houses that were local authority owned in the first place.

And what evidence are you are basing that on what exactly? You have absolutely no idea that would have happened.

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But that is not the fault of the family in question. That was decision made by the local authority. It is also down to the high property prices in Westminster. A house identical to this one, in Derbyshire, for example, would probably be a quarter of the cost.

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They most certainly do, despite what the media would have you believe. They are the ones who decide where to put the families, not central government. They could have quite easily rented two flats side by side, at a fraction of the cost, but oddly enough decided not to. Or they could have re-housed them in a different borough.

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.... and where did I say it was the fault of the family? :confused:

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Obviously your work for a LA, and know the inner workings of one.....and on your days off your must do volunteer work for the DWP.

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As a landlord, I too have a reasonable level of insight into this. I have seen some very "inappropriate" behaviour from some local authority employees and some very unscrupulous landlords. So, how does this, or any other, family not deserve to live in a house?

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Was just trying to find out more about this case:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936223.ece

and another popped up:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...taxpayers.html

This time it's £3,000 pw (£156,000 pa) if the source is to be believed. :shocked:

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it wouldn't be the first time that 2 council properties have been knocked into one ,i myself have worked in such properties this would have been much more preferable than moving them into the one they are in now and a fraction of the cost ,even ,as Flyboy has said they could be moved to a different borough or even different part of the country

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Local Housing Allowance
There was 3 Adults(1 couple) and 8 children to be housed. Without knowing the sex and ages of the children(which I said was a factor), that is a minimum of 6 bedrooms.

So I do/did have some idea of what would have happened.:p:

So the Landlord knows that they can charge a benefit recipient £1,600/week and will get the money, yet they might well charge a non-recipient of benefit a lot less.

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I really have no idea.

I dare say that you can obtain the homelessness policies and procedures, together with any relevent legislation through a FOI request. Also, a copy of the latest district audit report on the LA.

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Why do they live seperately. isn't the house big enough for him. or didn't they want the fact that he works affecting what help they are entitled to?

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So you go from a post that declared that you work for a local authority and have some insight into this; that you suggest that I do a freedom of information search to find out some infrmtion for...well I didn't really understand what; then you suggest that there are some families who do not deserve to live in houses, to this rather odd attack, for me expressing an opinion. Hardly a balanced approach to debating really, is it?

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i would suggest the second reason ,the same for the original family
When they decided to NOT stop having kids they realised that there was no way they could continue to support themselves on a wage so took a concious decision to sponge of us weak and lame brits
We have enough home grown spongers like these without importing them

I thought that there were safegards in place to stop people just sitting on the dole ,i thought that after so long you had to go on courses and take training ect or benefits would stop?

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But until you edited your post where it was completely different to the original, you said that there were families who should not be in the houses that local authorities gave them. How about an answer to the question?

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i know plenty of families who don't deserve council accomodation or any other state supported accomodation for that matter
do you want names and adresses?

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Yes!

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I really want to know what the circumstances are as to why he doesn't live with the family. I might call that Benefit Fraud number.

Our home grown spongers don't get this much help do they?

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forget it

Im tired and think i'm missing something in this thread, i'm also not sure i've said what I meant to say very well at all.

Flyboy, I think, infact i'm fairly sure, that i've read your posts in the wrong way, or drawn the wrong conclusion from them.

See you all tomorrow, i'm off to bed.