Is "Dave" on his way to doing a Kinnock '92-More Tory "mistakes."
 

With the increasingly embarrassing so-called "mistakes," coming from the Conservatives of late, is "Dave" about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

In the latest batch of humiliatingly lack of research, checking and double-checking, we find them on the back foot once again. "Dave" accusing the government of funding terror schools, just because they have friends who sound a bit like a terror group. Oh dear "Dave," back to school for you we think.

Tory Muslim school row 'irresponsible'

Re: Is "Dave" on his way to doing a Kinnock '92-More Tory "mistakes."
 

Increasingly embarrassing to whom?

Snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, wow I like that LOL, must remember to use that on occassion. Dont know when mind :rolleyes:

Its quite funny really where the Tory haters pop up & post these little mistakes and make such a huge issue out of them.

We could start listing everything that has been increasingly embarrassing to the labour government and the United Kingdom over the last 12 years, but then I wouldnt want to make this thread into a "MY POLITICAL PARTY IS BETTER THAN YOURS" debate because at the end of the day the freeloading no-marks that ruin (sorry run) this country have limited time and they know it.
Hark! Can you hear it?




The bells that toll for change and.....




Change is coming like it or not :)

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Trouble is it isn't, more a case of meet the new boss, same as the old boss, Blair MkII nothing of substance just a winning smile and slimey hair.

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Sadly I think it's looking more and more that this is the case.:(

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I "wonder" if the current "Government", led by "Gordon", "Ed", "Harriet", and "others", are making any "mistakes", and if so, will "Flyboy" be "picking up" on "them"? ;)

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Because, of course, the Government always tells the truth and is never wrong..

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Clearly you hope so, which is why I tend to view these sorts of posts from you as little more than desperate electioneering. One thing I'd like to know though: are you actually a card-carrying Labourite, or just a sympathizer?

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Flyboy, any chance you could change your signature to 'The above was a party political broadcast on behalf of the Labour party.'? ;)

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Don't forget it was from Michael Gove, who's associated with the Policy Exchange think tank whose neocon supporters were responsible for the similar 'mosque bookshops' story that Newsnight exposed the other year. They threatened to sue, a threat not followed through.

PX have a rather worrying hold over the Tories*, so this isn't the last time this sort of thing happens - the problem is when it happens in power.

* Ran Boris Johnson's transition team (marred by incompetence and not checking the background of appointees) and are running Cameron's too, as well as having the appalling Gove (who thinks history should be taught prescriptively to a central government diktat** in order to groom 'patriotism') as a major backer.

** which is exactly what Labour do, but at least they don't claim it's to breed patriots. The Conservatives: New Labour, only worse.

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Emigration would seem the only sensible course in that context wouldn't it BBK?

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I like this country too much too leave it, but I understand that others may feel differently, so good luck to them.

I have a friend who moved to Oz two years ago, and the email updates from their family keep telling us how much better it is out there, and how carp the UK is becoming - we sometimes wonder who they are trying to convince - themselves or us? We are happy that they are enjoying their new life, but we are happy here.

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I vaguely remember Ian Hislop mentioning something when all the banks were folding and GB was busy blaming the city for inadequate controls on banking. IH simply asked who was chancellor when the current controls were put in place (the implication being that the chancellor of the exchequer should have been actively involved in the controls).. And yes, it was Gordo..

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Yes, apparently the incidence of 'Selective Memory Syndrome' amongst 'Same Old Labour' MPs and supporters has increased dramatically over the last few years. Can't think why....

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Dave or Tony or Gordo it's going to be the samo,samo and we will still be in the toilet.;)

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:tu:

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and it's all our fault

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Well not unless everyone votes for the Liberals.;)

However that smacks too much of a decisive reaction and we the British public must stick to our pre-conceived prejudices.;)

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Maggy no offence have you ever thought maybe the reason the masses arn't flocking to the lib dems is because they don't want too for valid reasons ??. Personally like many i like some of what the lib dems say do i believe they can deliver were they to get into power no not a cat in hell's chance but it sounds good.

I have a lot of respect for vince cable but the fact is it is always easy to be right when you don't actually have to make the decisions and he has been wrong a few times as well. I do like this whole "labour or tory makes no difference" but "nick clegg and the lib dems are what is needed" attitude but lets be honest there is hardly a knife blade between any of them when it comes to what they will actually have to do when in power as that is pretty much gauranteed by the mess we are in.

All in all doesn't really matter what your political colour is we're all going to be in the same mess no matter who gets in but labour are the worst of the three by a long mile and have to be gotten rid of. As for Flyboy and his latest stream of pro labour threads i just laugh at them as that is usually all they deserve.

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Hmmmmm,

Ah so Ed 'talks' Balls says its untrue so of course it must be cause the government have never lied or been mistaken. :rolleyes:

I'd say it was a very relevant question and if she was a member it raises serious questions with regards to her suitablity to teach children.

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...who's a neo-liberal Thatcherite in economic outlook. Are you saying we should avoid having neo-liberal Thatcherites in charge of our economy in future?

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We? Looks like just you there to me kidda.

Blimey. I'd hate to see it when you do want to turn it into that kind of debate.

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Politics aside, I'd say we'd be a lot better off just having people who aren't utterly inept in charge of our economy.

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I'm saying nothing of the sort..

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That's George Osborne out, for a start. Ken Clarke, of course, would probably do a good job, but he's unacceptable to the ascendent Tory Right (William Hague and Liam Fox) owing to his views on Europe

Brown's trouble stems exactly from the fact that his economic ideology and inflexibility prevented him taking sufficent care over the banking sector (who had his ear, and spent ten years telling him that regulation would kill UK financial services). The Tories, also having the bankers whispering into their ear, spent the time castigating him for *not* deregulating enough (be more like Ireland, was Osborne's advice). It's my view that both of them are wrong, for the same reason, and you can't divorce it from the crisis nor from the growing income inequality (to be fair, Labour's failure here was in not reversing the rise in inequality under Thatcher, rather than contributing to it).

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Then why hope for "Boy George?" Hardly a paragon of intellect.

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Boy George? Do you mean Gideon Osborne ;)

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He obviously did it for political reasons, to appeal to the common man - or did he? (from wiki)
What a selfish, self-serving bar-steward, changing his name this way....;)

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On what do you base that statement, please?

(or should it be "statement"? ;) ).

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Is that the same Gideon that had speech therapy to sound less plummy, perhaps it was in reverence to a long lost cockney uncle or perhaps he really was appealing to the common man....

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Satan will be skating before I ever vote tory.

Most of the brown stuff that we are started with Maggy T. closing the mines, privtizing public companies, etc

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Perhaps the most recent was his inability to calculate his own mortgage expenses claim?

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Ahhhh - doesn't augur well for many members of the Labour Party then, does it?

How is Alistair Darling, btw? Wasn't he the Chancellor who
and changed his "official home" designation four times in four years - haven't heard you commenting on his intellectual rigour (perhaps he was just "redistributing wealth").

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Foreverwar I hope you honestly dont think that is going to happen do you.

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You have to love the desperation coming from labour supporters right now and the complete amnesia they are suffering in relation to their beloved party over the last twelve years. Now all you have to do is get them to tell you the secret of that amnesia and affect the whole country and maybe they stand more then a snowballs chance in hell. Sorry we cannot be rid of brown and his ilk fast enough for me and even if that means having the torys so be it so long as labour bite the big one for everything they have done to wreck this country since they got power.

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Its getting close to that time when we watch most of the labour Mp's stand on that stage in the town halls and realise they have been voted OUT :LOL:

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` Hear Hear` `Oink Oink`.........:D
Greedy selfish buggers the whole lot of Em`! Don`t give a toss about the country.

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Perhaps you are too young to remember "Sunny Jim" Callaghan, who was Home & Foreign Secretary, Chancellor and finally Prime Minister. He beggared up everything he touched - for example, he managed to get inflation above 25%, and was responsible for the Winter of Discontent - even though he famously invited trade union leaders to number 10 for beer and sandwiches.

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Yes, they were the "good old days" that many Labour supporters seem to conveniently forget...

The unions were, in effect, running the show. Mrs T put an end to that.

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Flyboy - I know you have a hard time accepting you're wrong but please don't confuse my utter contempt for New Labour's inept cronies as a blind endorsement of everything 'Blue'. My priority really is getting Brown them out of power and if that means a Tory government so be it. However, that doesn't mean I admire or even like Osbourne, in fact I happen to think he won't last as Chancellor if he ever makes it that far. Even so he's still preferable to current incumbent and his party. Anyway, if you can show me a single post here in which I've praised Osbourne's skills as a potential Chancellor (or anything else for that matter) I'll donate £50 to charity. How about you do the same when you're proved wrong and have to eat your words?... ;)

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Hey what you have here is Flyboy hoping that if he says the Tories are buggered enough then you will start to believe it and then it will come true :LOL:

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More selective memory amongst Labour supporters.. ;)

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Amen to that, brother! ;)

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Yep all of them

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21856493/

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And the Unions £9 million contribution to the Labour Party every year - they do this out of the goodness of their hearts, I suppose.

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As I said all of them, besides the unions don't want their money back x20 paid for by the taxpayer and to think it was only a few weeks back Dave was telling us there was no money left for tax cuts, well no money left for the likes of nearly every member of the population after they have all had a slice.

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What do the Unions want for their (members) money, then?

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Course they do........... lol

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I think we all know but they will never admit to it ;)

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Perhaps a better question would be what do they get for their members money, with New Labour the answer is not a bloody lot, hence they cut the amount of cash they give due to having so little influence over party policy, anyway it's a bit different to the usury The Mirror is aluding to imo.