Catholic Church 'Covered Up' Child Sex Abuse
 

Apparently the tallies almost 400 children and expected to rise significantly as the investigation continues! Sadly not all will face justice.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20091126/...u-3fd0ae9.html

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It's been going on for years, the Catholic faith is well known for assaults on children including sexual assaults.

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Hang on I think you are accusing every member of the catholic church there.I'm sure you didn't mean to.

After all it was a few Catholic priests who were responsible of this disgusting behaviour and the hierarchy of the Irish catholic community(and possibly )the Vatican who protected them who deserve to be vilified, not the ordinary people of the Catholic faith.

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It is no surprise that the Catholic church once again covered up abuse by the clergy and just moved them into another parish where they were able to carry on with their abuse on fresh victims.

This kind of thing has to all intents and purposes has been condoned by the Vatican by the simple fact that nothing was ever done to prevent this happening.

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Those who protect the paedophiles are every bit as guilty of any further abuse as the abusers themselves. :mad:

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In fact they ignored the inquiry.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8382010.stm

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No surprise that it was ignored because they always bury their heads in the sand when abuse issues come to light.

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I wonder how many of the Catholic clergy are paedophiles? They're in the news weekly with new reported cases, I'm guessing it had little to do with God and they were using it as a front to gain access to children knowing they have the protection of the church and pretty much immune to justice. A disgusting abuse of power and trust!

All involved in the cover-ups and should face justice as an accessory rather than just handing out hundreds of millions of pounds in compensation, which incidentally was probably donated by the church members, so in a sick sense they're really funding it.:shocked:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...e-victims.html

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Time the Vow of Chastity was ebolished after it was never placed because of the bible anyway but to stop preists breeding and passing on the wealth. Also the fact that married ex CoE preists are allowed to have families etc has to take the pee somewhat.

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In some places the priest was there to help if the husband was to put it mildly a bit jaffa and then some of the younger parishioners tended to have a look of the local priest.:D

Still probably happening now with many priests becoming secret fathers.

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They know about the Vow of Chastity long before they enter the priesthood. I'm not sure how an inability to have relationships with, or a lack of desire for women translates into sexual attacks on young boys.

At the very least, they should not be allowed to have relationships with parishioners, as it is a similar situation to a Doctor-Patient relationship, they know their secrets and vulnerabilities.

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Again its a case of a few rotten apples contaminating the rest. Every "Straight" priest has to live down these abusers.:td:

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i have oft wondered myself about this ie is this church an easy place for pedophile rings to exist given that pedophilia is covered up at all levels just to save face .

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Well whatever the truth is there seems to be a problem within the catholic church in identifying these people and when identified dealing with them properly. While this is about ireland lets not forget this is not the first instance of this it has happened in the US and other places. I have no views on the vow of chasity and given anyone who enters into the priesthood knows about it i don't think it is fair to use that as a reason why some go into abusing young children. What needs to happen is for the catholic church to come completely clean about all this admit any wrongs, put right whatever is failing on their end and start again. Whatever they do no innocent child should have to suffer at the hands of someone who is looked upto and trusted with their deepest secrets as priests are.

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It used to be, but recently God's rotweiller decided he was ashamed of the past behaviour of certain priests (who had been caught) and he was determined to make things a bit more difficult for kiddie fiddlers to either join his gang or for exsting deviants to perpetrate their acts.

He was, of course, talking Barlocks.

If a nation can be repulsed at the shortcomings of Harringay Council in their complicity / ineptitude in the abuse and murder of "baby P" to the extent that their chief executive can be summarily sacked then how come nobody is calling for the Pope to be sacked?

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I say anyone who intentionally protects a known paedophile to avoid justice is as guilty as the paedophile themselves. If a link can be proven, then yes there should be justice, no matter how high up it goes. Being a member of any organisation should not mean you're immune from the law of the land.

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I agree. Although straight might not be the best word since gay people would fail that test ;)

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Or God, as he seems to be ok with them being his agents.

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If they've already had to pay out 'Hundreds of millions' in compensation for sex abuse, How do they fund if all, or how will they fund it all! Somethings got to give. Why does the news only mention compensation, why aren't the implicated facing justice like other paedophiles?

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20091126...s-f858358.html

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Lock them all up in a room and douse them with petrol then throw a match in there. Like I posted above it's been going on for years.

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Apparently it's now the gays fault so says the Vatican.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2009/10/01...t-paedophiles/

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If it's true that the majority of the abuse was against teens then the following is worth pointing out...

Although to suggest ephebophilia is exclusive to homosexuals is off-the-charts wrong.

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but surely if a gay man attacks a 14-15yr old its still classed as paedophilia ,i didn't think paedophiles were restricted to one sex

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That's what I thought.

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Paedophillia doesn't relate to teenage victims though.

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that depends on the definition you use "sexual abuse of a minor" or sexual abuse of a prepubescent
the first one tends to be a legal term and the second a psychological one very confusing i know and should be clarified

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No, paedophile crimes are generally classed as those against pre-teens, but in any case 'paedophile' is more of a sociological category, it's certainly not a legal one. There isn't any single offence called 'paedophilia' in law, there are a number of different offences depending on the age of the victim and the nature of the act.

Sex with a 10 year old and sex with a 15 year old are not the same thing.

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I think it's just that the term 'paedophilia' is not gender specific, just as the term 'incest' is not gender specific. It doesn't mean that the person doesn't have specific preferences(sex/race/hair colour etc).

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thanks for the clarification

And as someone else suggested shouldn't the church be held accountable (at least partly)for covering up the behaviour of some of it's priests .If they have paid out millions in compensation isn't that an admition of guilt?

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I don't know about the current law, but the new vetting and barring rules the CRB (or Disclosure Scotland north of the border) will be working to from next year will certainly make it an offence not to pass on such information about an employee. Anyone, Catholic bishops included, who gets caught trying to cover up something like this in future is going to be liable to a sizeable fine at the very least, and quite possibly some jail time.

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Prosecution should go as high as possible in the Catholic church. I'm willing to accept the pope and his predecessors were unaware but still I'm sure this goes high.

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BBKing further added that Tomasi is talking out of his priestly backside - it's an abuse of power thing, and no priest is going to dare present it as that because the power is the whole point of the organised religion racket, even more so than the delectable youngsters on hand.

Paedophile priests? Is the Pope a Catholic?

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Wiki seems to suggest his backside might be being used for something other than talking out of.

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Of course, one way to get off a prison sentence would be so say you're too fat...

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So the church is offended at the idea of straight priests abusing boys of whatever age so they label them all homosexual as that fits nicely into the homophobic belief the catholic church has. Either way they put it perverts got into the church abused people they were tasked with caring for and top figures in the catholic church have both known about it and in some cases helped cover it up. Arrests should be made and not just a few low level sacrificial lambs but some of those higher up who knew and at best did nothing and at worst covered it up.