Brown to push for royal Roman Catholics law change
 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6931557.ece


he's at it again :mad: there must be some old law that allows brown to be hung drawn and quartered or similar.
why doe's this bloke want to change everything[well many things ] this country stands for .

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He knows in 100, 50 or even 20 years time he just be a stain in our history. However he seems to want to be a very wide stain by messing with laws that are ancient and have no consequence on our modern society.

It would be nice if he spent time fixing laws that do matter to our modern society.

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Are you kidding. Are you BNP!!!!!!

This is 2009!!!

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do i have to be ,to be against this ?

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That's a bit of an over-reaction. What has the year got to do with anything?

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:rolleyes:

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Not a over-reaction at all.

Even you Chris are good enough to be King of this country regardless of your beliefs.

I know I am. I may be RC but I was born and bred here.

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I may (possibly) be good enough to lead the country, but I can't, by definition, be King ... that being a hereditary position and all. I do take your point though.

That said, it's not about who's 'good enough' - this is inextricably tied to the Church of England and the monarch's constitutional position in that institution as well as the State. Unpicking all of that is a lot more complex than it first appears, and the fact that the British Monarch is separately head of state of a whole load of Commonwealth countries makes it more difficult still.

My main objection is to Brown's shallow attempt to get news coverage at any cost on any issue other than the substantive issues of the day. The amount of time required to fix this would make the fox hunting debacle look like a school debating society.

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Hmmm..... Bliar became a catholic.... got rejected for the job of EU President....

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I take it brown has managed to solve all the other pressing issues that plague this green and pleasant land of ours then ?

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Brown's a yesterday person desperately chasing anything slightly controversial for the odd bit of PR it might generate.

How much longer do we have to wait for the fool to be kicked into touch. Can only be a matter of months but it's feeling like eternity. :shocked:

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perhaps he's trying to pass over the reigns to the pope ,he will of course have to do a bit of arranging first .

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do you really think his popeship will want it ?;)

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Must ... resist ... cheap ... shot ... about ... Germans ... :D

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question is do we want Rome manipulating our monarch .

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It's a pointless anachronism in the 21st century but why now? Why not 10,20 years ago.

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on this i am partly with you so no you dont have to be ;)

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unfortunately unless a RC PM was willing to say he wouldn't follow the pope i can see it being a very big problem

even though i agree with those who voted against see http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...bryo-bill.html

the problem is it can be also seen as putting the Pope in front of the country which is why the church here is although part of government still below the government

I know that those mp's may say it was just their conscience they were following but i doubt many would believe them :( and having the head of state ( albeit a mostly neutered one ) in the same position would also be seen as problematic

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LOL dont resist, take that cheap shot :D

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Hmmmmm this would really mess up one of the titles held by the British Monarchs:-

Supreme Governor of the Church of England

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme...rch_of_England

Can't somehow see them letting a 'left footer' have that gig

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I, personally, don't think that being constitutionally anti catholic and misogynistic are things that any country should really want to "stand for" or boast about in this day and age.

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Just get shot of the Monarchy they are nothing but free loading parasites anyway.

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OC theres the real questions as regards The REAL Royal Family/Britain's Real Monarch ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0o7vD4uHsU

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So when is the papal throne being opened up to Church of England clergy or any other relegion for that matter. Or is it OK for them but not anyone else?

I don't see how anyone form a different relegion can truely be the head of a different relegion.

JJ

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The main issue for me is that, Catholicism is one of those religions that is not fully tolerant of having non-believers in the family(eg Tony Blair was forced to convert). This would mean that once a Catholic became Monarch, no other religion would be allowed in the 'family'.

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"forced to convert" - get real. He got married to a Catholic in 1980, and converted in December 2007 - real rush job there! :rolleyes:

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He admitted that he didn't do it sooner for political reasons. It's not as if that is the only case. An example is just that, an example of other occurences of the same thing.

From an article in the Guardian(an approved publication, I hope):-
Like the good Catholic he is.:rolleyes:

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nip over to Australia and marry the oldest girl, princess rebecca or princess mandy, so becoming prince Chris and your all set to be the potential king one day :)

you can imagine someone doing exactly that now, so you better be quick or loose out....:angel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cXA3...eature=related

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nk, loved the way you quoted a Guardian opinion as fact. ;)

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Did that b1tch Cherrie Blair put a gun to his head!

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"Tony Blair does, too, but he refused to pursue the matter when he was prime minister because he was too busy doing other stuff: going to war, promoting abortion rights, sucking up to the military-industrial complex, encouraging safe sex among teenagers".
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He certainly wasn't a catholic at that particular time - and it was precisely because his intention to convert was widely known that he didn't pursue the constitutional change.

By the way, I'm certainly not attempting to defend the catholic church, I'm merely pointing out that being discriminatory on the basis of gender or religion is not something that a constitutional democracy ought to be proud of.

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What Mr A said (and I am a lapsed Catholic, who now attends a C of E church, and whose first marriage was to a Methodist - confusing, or what.....:D ).

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But he has indicated that he had Catholic beliefs long before he actually converted and that he felt that he had been truly a Catholic all along. Perhaps his impending interview with Fern Britton about religious beliefs, will shed some light on this. The series starts this Sunday with Dolly Parton, then following week, Desmond Tutu.

If his wife hadn't been a Catholic, then he wouldn't have had these Catholic feelings and tendencies in the first place.

25 years is a long time.

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OC becoming a certified Catholic did wonders for raising his payed for appearances fees and lectures income on the US circuit etc...

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That would imply that Catholics discriminate against non-Catholics.:shocked:(not)

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erm.....
a) If you are looking for religious discrimination, I refer you to Glasgow and Belfast, and it was the other way around.:erm:
b) It is the fact he has come out as a Christian, rather than RC - the US love public displays of Christian religiousity; approx 52% of our friends from across the water are Protestant, and 23% are Kafflik (and that 41% of Americans regularly attend church), so you may have presumed that, given previous issues with the Kennedy family due to their religious affiliations, "coming out" as a left-footer would have diminished his box-office takings.

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i suppose it would be workable if the queen was the supreme ruler of the kaffics ,instead of the pope .