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a bit harsh but its their country and their rules

Somali woman, 20, stoned to death by Islamic militants after admitting affair with boyfriend | Mail Online


and the woman she got stoned to death, strange idea of justice some cultures have [and i use the term culture very loosely]

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all in the name of religion ,....how very civilised :(:mad:

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It's what you call barbaric.

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And from another thread today

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A barbaric celebration. just this once.

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sometimes I think people who cheat on their husbands / wives get off to lightly in the country and they do breach the marrage contract when they cheat. I am bitter on this one as my ex wife cheated with 2 fellas in our case there was no reward through the courts but often if there is kids its the bloke gets screwed over again

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Intentional pun I assume?

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I think I have been out with this girl !

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Very distressing.
That is murder, I wonder if the stoners were all perfect people.
Could they sleep after killing a young lady in such a horrific way?
The man who had an affair with her got 100 lashes.

What a world we live in.

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you could argue what a country we live in when often( when it is the woman who cheats) there is a reward of the house the kids the car half the wages ;)

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But if you read the full story, She was divorced :rolleyes:

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does not make my point any less true . I was responding to the nature of the thread .

I do not agree with this kind of punishment but it is their country their rules if she had kept her knickers up and maybe got married again before doing the horizontal tango perhaps then she wouldnt be dead.

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But it does make the thread not about Adultery but more about single sided archaic interpretations of religious law.. ;)

As we in the western world know it takes two to tango, but how come the guy was no-where to be seen in the hail of stones?

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because the laws of Islam where written by men for men.

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well I think you can look at it from a morality point of view. Like Islam or not they hold moral behavior very highly and their laws are very strong against breaches. Look at how they treat a thief etc .

We in this country have a very lax view of morality but I find that distasteful myself.

She must have known the laws but still broke them. The guy who had not been married got off lighter.

If you think about marrage vows taken in churches in this country . Both partners swear in front of almighty God to be true. Ok I realise in reg offices the vows are different but a contract is still made. Both hold no water in law. For someone to breach a contract with God in a country where it is held held in the highest order is asking for it. Not that I agree with it

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If a male commits adultry they can be executed also. I remember a case of a princess years ago with the pictures in the Sun the man was shot and the princess beheaded

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[QUOTE=zing;34912887]well I think you can look at it from a morality point of view. Like Islam or not they hold moral behavior very highly and their laws are very strong against breaches. Look at how they treat a thief etc .

We in this country have a very lax view of morality but I find that distasteful myself.

She must have known the laws but still broke them. The guy who had not been married got off lighter.

If you think about marrage vows taken in churches in this country . Both partners swear in front of almighty God to be true. Ok I realise in reg offices the vows are different but a contract is still made. Both hold no water in law. For someone to breach a contract with God in a country where it is held held in the highest order is asking for it. Not that I agree with it[COLOR="Silver"]



i'm an atheist there is no one to swear in front of.

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I agree that laws should be upheld, but what's strange here is that this woman was allowed a divorce and then held and punished under a law that states she wasn't divorced.. Surely any law that allows that is flawed to the extreme??

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[QUOTE=papa smurf;34912889][COLOR="Silver"]then you wouldnt be getting married in a church then would you? in your opinion there is no one to swear in front of but those who do believe and do get married in a church are making a big promise

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perhaps she was divorced somewhere else? perhaps a different province

she could have still kept your pants on though kymmy she must have known the law

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No, it's just interpreted that way. After all I'm assuming you've done some research on islam?

In any case it's amazing how some people advocate thieves getting a hand chopped off, or rapists/murderers getting executed, yet this is considered 'barbaric' and 'medieval'. You are either in favour of capital punishment or not at all, armchair experts.

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A divorce can only be granted in the country where one gets married.. SO what you;re telling me is that one part of the country will see the divorce and another side won't and might put her to death because of it??

That my dear is one seriosly (insert whatever word you think is best here) country

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who wrote it then -and if you say god i'm going to fall off my seat laughing.

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I'll be happy to educate you when the topic comes up.

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Only supposing. Look at Iraq now. There are still 3 different factions in different areas of the country each may interpret the law differently. Better example is the USA. Some states will put you to death for murder where others wont. Some states have totally different laws than others. Look at the UK Scotland has different laws than England in part. No different really ( only obviously a little less harsh lol)

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it has i'm all ears --impress me

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This thread isn't about who wrote any ancient texts - as I said when that topic comes up I'll be happy to educate you. Or of course you could just look it up yourself, perish the thought....

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States is irrelevant as you're talking about the sentancing there.. Murder is still murder wherever you are in the states and divorce is still divorce..

The worrying issue in this case is that someone has issued a divorce to this woman and that means she's happy to go have sex with an unmarried man (might be frowned upon but that's her business) Then all of a sudden she's sentanced to death for the same action in another part of the country. How can that be justified?? It should be one or the other.. The sooner Somalia gets a goverment (or invading army) in position the better it'll be :(

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i'll wait till you gather enough info for your full armchair expert sermon ;)

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If you two are finished with the "I'm gonna get the last word in game" can we get back on topic from now on (and no I'm not expecting or needing a reply :p: ;) )

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Stoning somebody to death is barbaric and medieval. whether you're in favour of capital punishment or not.

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Its only irrelevant to you as it backs up your argument. Its relevant to me as it backs up mine and shows that in "civilised" societies there is differences in aspects of the law. Somalia do not need to justify it as its their law its not our place to force democracy and our laws and beliefs on the world. That I think would make us dictators and fascists to say the least.

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People see it as barbaric because its a punishment based on a 1300 year old, plagerised religion. Quite a few humans see no morality in religion, thus basing laws on a man made religious dogma is barbaric. Especially one as locked in the dark ages as Islam....

Capitol Punishment is not barbaric. Its horrific that humans must consider the use of the death penalty against other humans, but when small numbers of humans decide to prey on other member of society, then the ultimate sanction (killing them) becomes necessary. The way I see it personally is like battlefield triage.... Those that are too far gone to be helped are kept as comfortable as possible until their time is up. Those injured who can be saved get priority for medical care and evac. Thats the horrible reality of combat medicine....

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Only because you're in a country which is not run by that religion. I'm against barbaric punishments and capital punishment but the hypocrisy flyinging about this thread is incredible.

If the justice system in Somalia works for them then it's not really our place to criticise. Nothing wrong with opinions as long as we accept they might just as well be criticising our ways of life too.

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And we've both had that particular conversation before Russ, and if I remember correctly I admitted to that particular hypocrisy.

On another side note Russ. A little less hypocrisy from you would be good as well. ;)

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It wasn't aimed at you - and I've always been against capital punishment.

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lol, I think you'll like this.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/11/54.jpg

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:clap:

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so you think I am stupid because I have faith? wonder if all the people I have helped on this and other forums and in real life think I am stupid.

Science can not answer all my questions there is more to the universe that just the repercussions of the big bang so I believe in something more ,so thats makes me stupid?

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It's athiest intolerance. There's a lot of it about these days.

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I would as an atheist like to point out that many of the atheist views expressed in this thread are not representative of ALL atheists...

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e before i except after c atheist ;)

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Bloody spelling NAZI :td:

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the devils in the detail :D

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That's "devil's" - apostrophe "s".

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The justice system doesn't work for them, it's one of the most lawless places on earth, bully for them they can stone a woman, pity they can't do anything about the pirates or terrorists living amongst them, all about priorities I guess :rolleyes:

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well that's a matter of perspective ,yes i find the treatment of this woman and man barbaric ...i also find it 100%wrong that a rapist gets a few years in prison whilst a bamk robber can get 10yrs or more ,our justice system is no better if we are talking about priorities

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Them's the rules.

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Yes it is a matter of perspective, how many men do you think have been punished for murdering and raping their way round that country over the last 2 decades? We might be soft on crime but at least the majority of our criminals are dealt with eventually, they aren't allowed their own lawless little kingdoms to rule over.

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What rules? Don't make me laugh the country is lawless, what message is killing this girl giving, "tough on crime tough on the causes of crime" more like pishing in the wind while the country burns around them.

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Animals! is this the law they want to use in our country?

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In this country it wouldn't be allowed as we have no capital or corporal punishment. The only Sharia law probably to ever be allowed in this country will be civil matters

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do they do prison or fines in their laws? they can't have it anyway they can abide by our laws or go back to where they do have the law they want.

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:o:

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I beg to differ Russ.

You have (to memory) porn scorn on the Catholic Church as not being a christian organisation in at least two threads. Ofcourse thats your view as an evangelical christian, and as we all know, there's little tollerence between religious sects/movements for those they consider wrong. Yet every time a thread seems to be "bashing religion" you wade in on the side of religion like some mideval champion in shining armour....

I've long been of the opinion that you (like many religious people) will defend "faith", even the faiths of other religions, because atleast they have "faith", even if they worship the "wrong way" or the "wrong god".

That in my opinion is "your" hypocricy.

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In that case you've totally understood my stance. I have nothing against Catholics (indeed my mother is one as is most of her side of the family) or their right to faith. What I distrust is Catholic doctrine. Put in simpler terms it's like distrusting a social club committee but not the members.

And when people post ignorance and/or untruths about faiths then yes I will post out where they're mistaken. Whether or not they actually want to learn where they're mistaken is a different matter of course.

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just your typical backward islamic country :mad:

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Just look at China who has 68 different crimes that are punishable by death and they include financial crimes such as counterfeiting, fraud, tax fraud, corruption, property crimes such as theft, and smuggling cultural relics, gold, silver or other precious metals can be punishable by death.

Are they some backwards Islamic country??

I actually gave up on this thread when it went from an arguement about deserving death and inconsistent rules within the same country and people started on the "It's the fault of religion" :( but after the last comment I thought I'd burst at least one bubble..

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I'm late to join in this thread but I think this is truly inhumane and find it shocking this still takes place these days.

No one wants to find out that their partner has been cheating on them or realise their relationship has ended when their partner has met someone else but is this something so bad to call for death?

Imagine you are being pelted with rocks. It cant exactly be the quickest way to die so must be very painful.
No one should have to be treated like that.

These countries have barbaric ways that should have been eradicated by now as no human being should be subjected to these ways.

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however it is their country ,we find it barbaric but they don't ,they will find some of the things we do in this country barbaric .We don't have the right to impose our culture on them any more than they have the right to impose their's on us

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How else are they going to keep their lucrative trade in human organs going?

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I think it's Iran where if you are sentenced to stoning they bury you up to the neck and then unload a dump truck full of stones on your head, talk about dead and buried.

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Do me a favour, it isn't a country it's a mess and the sooner it's sorted the better of they'll be, whose gonna object, the warlords, the pirates or the terrorists? And we have already impossed our will upon them by allowing and helping a neighbouring country to invade and depose what form of government they had.

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What sort of wishy washy isolationist thinking is that?:smokin:

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Yes, I think you are right. How in this day and age can people do such things?


martyh, What do we have in this country that can be as barbaric as that ?

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How do you know that? I'd be interested in seeing statistics on the number of criminals who have never been caught.

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well, some cultures might think that beating up and raping old age pensioners for a few pounds barbaric .
I didn't say we were as barbaric , i said some cultures might consider some of the things we do in this country barbaric and lawless that would be their perception of this country as it is our perception of their country
and i do think it's barbaric but it is for them to change not for us to force on them