Harman will ban Christmas, bishops warn
 

the would-be Grinch, also known as the beleaguered equalities minister, is being blamed by Roman Catholic clergy worried they will be forced to cancel Christian celebrations for fear of offending other cultures.

"Under existing legislation, we have seen the development of a risk-averse culture with outcomes as ridiculous as reports of a local authority instructing tenants to take down Christmas lights in case they might offend Muslim neighbours, or of authorities removing the word Christmas out of cultural sensitivity to everyone except Christians.


http://www.politics.co.uk/news/legal...n-$1341305.htm


bahh humbug ...

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well if this happens (which I doubt) I hope they ban none christian festivities in case they upset me lol

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Are we forgetting that no Christian celebrations have actually been canceled "in case it offends other religions"?

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"Harman will ban Christmas, bishops warn"......good to bloody expensive anyway

Bah Humbug

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Why aren't they blaming it on Gay people?

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Cause most of them are catholic priests, and they would loose out on lovely pressies at christmas ! ;):p:

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keep up, it's the muslims fault these days.

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More 'bang' per buck I guess

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:nutter:

Why doesn't that link work for me?:erm:

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i had a right game to put it on the thread had to enlist the help of my son.

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Sokay! Working now.;)

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It's still a stupid story..Cromwell tried banning Crimbo and if he couldn't succeed with the army on his side then no one can...;)

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sounds like a challenge , wheres my captain atheist costume ?

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The Catholic Church need to sort out their problems before they start worrying about this.

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She could ban it but it would never stop it being give a present day.;)

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turkey genocide day works for me :D

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Well even if you beat the Christians I think us heathens will want our Midwinter feast.

So unless you want beating to death with a turkey leg I'd desist if I were you.

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i see what you mean

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I don't think this will happen. In my experience, those that do celebrate christmas, do. Those that don't celebrate christmas use it as an excuse to take a day off, give each other presents, watch TV and maybe get drunk with friends/family.

More disturbing is the BBC's decision that Thought For The Day will only have thoughts from religious people. I thought the BBC was supposed to be impartial and fair. How can it be either when it does this?

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oh no, can't call it that. All the vegetarians would be offended

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So, in summary, someone has reported that some group think that something might possibly happen if someone else does something that she has never said.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/11/58.jpg

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Yes but don't forget it's a chance to moan about how Muslims are taking over.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/11/57.jpg
:D

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yes russ keep mentioning the muslins i notice your not bashing the bishops;)

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My criticisms of catholicism have been well-documented here in the past. This non-story is just another attempt at a "winterval" style scandal.

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i think the joke was sadly over your head

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I saw it straight away but figured you'd prefer a more grown up response - apologies if I misjudged you.

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You can explain the joke to me then.

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the vegetables will just have to meat me half way on this one:)

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I'll have meat and 4 veg at christmas. Done that make me a mutant ? ;)

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Didn't we have a revolution a few centuries ago so that we didn't have to follow what the Catholic Church said? I know the concept of human rights is alien to His Holiness and the boys, but Harman couldn't ban Christmas even if she wanted to because it would breach the Human Rights Act in a number of places (freedom of assembly, right to private life, freedom of speech, freedom of religion I reckon).

Remember, if you see a story in your newspaper sayings SO AND SO BANS CHRISTMAS SHOCK HORROR it's time to switch papers. They're *always* made up, including the Dundee one this year.

Five Chinese Crackers: These 'they've banned Christmas' stories start earlier every year!

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So if the 'Freedom of Association' is used to allow Trade Unions to kick out people who don't have the same political beliefs, although they're not a meant to be a political group, wouldn't that mean that other groups (eg churches, BNP etc) could exclude people who didn't share the same beliefs of that group. That is not the case, as Trade Unions are allowed to ban people, but other groups(the Left of course decide which ones) can't.

The Human Rights Act along other things of that sort(eg EU rules) are just a mechanism for giving the Left power to control things without the inconvenience of the ballot box.

IIRC PLO Leader Yasser Arafat visited(or tried to) Bethlehem at Christmas to celebrate the birth of Christ.

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I don't believe anyone is allowed to ban anyone on the basis of religious belief.

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The right of 'Freedom of Association' allows Trade Unions to exclude people for having views which are irrelevant to the functions of a Trade Union. That right is meant to allow any group to set its own membership criteria of that group.

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I'm not sure you're quite getting this - the HRA and ECHR stop the *government* deciding who should be allowed into trade unions. It applies to *state* entities, not private ones, and a union is a voluntary organisation of private individuals, not an arm of the state. It's amazing how few people realise this - the ECHR is essentially weaponised anti-fascism, designed by British lawyers to alert people to the kinds of laws governments pass on their way to becoming a totalitarian police state.

Anyway, if you think the ECHR is anything to do with the EU you've just hit my 'don't know anything' about it tripwire. It isn't anything to do with the EU, which incidentally is so left wing it's about to elect a President decided by the right wing of France and Germany, possibly the Belgian Prime Minister, who is, amongst other things, lauded by their local equivalent of the BNP for his, er, robust views on the desirability of inviting Turkey to join the Union. What a bunch of Commies they are, to be sure.

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I gave EU rules as a(singular) example, not the complete list.

It was a Labour Government(paid by the Trade Unions) that passed the law that allowed the Trade Unions to eject certain members.
This was later backed up by an ECHR ruling based upon:-
But then,
seems to counter that ruling.

The set of rules are vague and general enough to be only be allowed to be 'interpreted' as applying in the way the Left desire. Just think of all the rules and laws, that even if 100% of people want it changed, it cannot be changed. EU directives are just one example.

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"the left".....

Hilarious.

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Yes, they are, when safely kept out of harm's way.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2009/11/56.jpg

http://www.unionancestors.co.uk/Images/Scargill.jpg

http://a6.vox.com/6a00f48d0f332b0001...1386000b-320pi

:D

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Amusingly enough, Degsy is now a property developer in Cyprus....

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Heh the headline reminds me of that southpark episode where christian themed items are removed as they offend the Jewish mother.