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Tinky 15-11-2009 07:15

UK child migrants apology planned
 
I can't begin to imagine how traumatic it would have been to be separated from my parents. The homesickness and the longing to get back home, must have been unbearable.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8361025.stm

yesman 15-11-2009 09:08

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Yes, I was just listening to this on 5 live, disadvantaged kids being plucked from the streets and sent to Australia even as late as the seventies, it must have been terrible.

Earl of Bronze 15-11-2009 09:12

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Ok.... Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I really can't see any need for Gordo to appologise for this. It smacks of the PC bullsnot that Tony Bliars slavery appology was....

Charlie_Bubble 15-11-2009 09:38

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34909916)
Ok.... Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I really can't see any need for Gordo to appologise for this. It smacks of the PC bullsnot that Tony Bliars slavery appology was....

That is new labour all over. Lot's of nice words of comfort and taxpayers money thrown at things, but sod all actual substance or improvement.

zing_deleted 15-11-2009 09:43

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maybe we should look for a few islands to send all the illegal migrants we find now

Cobbydaler 15-11-2009 10:39

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It's easy to apologise for someone else's failings in the past. Why do politicians never apologise for their own misdeeds?







That's a rhetorical question by the way!

v0id 15-11-2009 14:51

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Originally Posted by zing (Post 34909943)
maybe we should look for a few islands to send all the illegal migrants we find now


I hear they found water on the moon, how about there? :D

RizzyKing 16-11-2009 08:11

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Maybe Gordo is going to apologise for this so that in the future someone else will find it easier to aplogise for his time as leader.

Damien 16-11-2009 08:35

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34910410)
Maybe Gordo is going to apologise for this so that in the future someone else will find it easier to aplogise for his time as leader.

Maybe...

Anyway I don't see where the problem is here. It is like Blair's apology for Britain's part in slavery. Yes, the people involved were dead, but it was something for which this country was at serious fault and an official apology from the Government is meant to recognise that it was a problem in this country, one which we are aware is wrong, and to apologise as a nation for it.

Same with this Child Migrants thing.

Paul 16-11-2009 10:55

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What complete nonsense.

Why should he apologise for something that happened 40+ years ago ?

Should I apologise for the things my parents did, or my grandparents ?

Just as barmy as apologising for slavery. Whats next, apologising for the crusades ?

danielf 16-11-2009 11:20

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 34910469)
What complete nonsense.

Why should he apologise for something that happened 40+ years ago ?

Should I apologise for the things my parents did, or my grandparents ?

Just as barmy as apologising for slavery. Whats next, apologising for the crusades ?

You might feel different if you were one of the people involved?

It's different from you apologising for your grandparents. It's the government acknowledging that what a previous government did was wrong. It may seem pointless to you, but it may be very important to some of those involved.

joglynne 16-11-2009 11:21

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After so many years when the abuse of these people as children was denied, and the failure of anyone to help them or even believe what had happened to them, an apology is welcomed by them as an acknowledgment that both countries carried out inhuman actions on defenseless children.

Maybe an apology seems inappropriate to some but my Aunt was one of these children and what happened to her is heartbreaking to hear. She managed to trace my Father, her cousin, with the help of the Red Cross and she has told us that the Australian apology has, in her words, allowed her to close a door on her painful memories.

One of the things that bewildered her was that she was sent away from her home land to live as a unloved and illtreated child in Australia when Great Britain was opening her doors to refugees from other countries and looking after them with more compassion that they did their own children.

Paul 16-11-2009 14:40

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34910491)
It's different from you apologising for your grandparents.

Indeed, its apologising for something someone you dont know at all did, possibly before you were even born.

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34910491)
It's the government acknowledging that what a previous government did was wrong.

You dont need to apologise for something done years ago, by someone else, to acknowledge it was wrong.

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 34910491)
You might feel different if you were one of the people involved?

Unlikely. Im sure you have gathered that I dont have much time for pointless gestures, which is how I view this.

Osem 16-11-2009 15:00

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I'd be a deal more impressed if Brown was prepared to acknowledge and apologise for what he's done wrong!

Ignitionnet 16-11-2009 15:04

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34909916)
Ok.... Maybe I'm a bit dense, but I really can't see any need for Gordo to appologise for this. It smacks of the PC bullsnot that Tony Bliars slavery appology was....

What he said.

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Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble (Post 34909939)
That is new labour all over. Lot's of nice words of comfort and taxpayers money thrown at things, but sod all actual substance or improvement.

And him.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34910571)
I'd be a deal more impressed if Brown was prepared to acknowledge and apologise for what he's done wrong.

And especially him. Brown's arrogance in dealing with his own mistakes has been breathtaking to such an extent that to apologise for this reeks of hypocrisy given the various failures of his own he has to apologise for. He's wasted tens of billions of pounds and decades of public servants' man-hours on total crap while puffing his chest out indignantly or yelling stroppily at his subordinates if questioned, misdirecting or blatantly lying to the public if they seek transparency or explanation where their money is going, and he has the nerve to expect an apology for something that happened decades ago to be taken at face value...

RizzyKing 16-11-2009 16:15

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Sorry but this is over indulgent tripe that we seem to go in for a lot these days anyone can look back on something and with the great gift of hindsight say it was wrong and we're sorry. It would mean something and only mean something if one of the people responsible had realised it was wrong and apologised. What iota of difference is an apology from GB going to do anyone still alive that was affected by this none so what is the point. With this tradegy like many others while there are always some who want reasons and apologies the majority would like to forget it and get on living their life not be reminded of something they probably came to terms with long before htis apology. Sometimes it is better to let the past lay then drag it up and offer meaningless apologies.

TheDaddy 17-11-2009 14:21

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34910571)
I'd be a deal more impressed if Brown was prepared to acknowledge and apologise for what he's done wrong!

I doubt he'd have time to run the country if he started making apologies for all he has done wrong, mind you that'd probably be a good thing!

Ramrod 17-11-2009 14:32

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Gordon Brown is planning an apology to those children left to be raised in the UK instead of being offered the chance of living in a far nicer country, somewhere sunny.
link
:D

TheDaddy 17-11-2009 14:41

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“The irony is, I’m a borderline alcoholic who genuinely loves cricket and utterly despises football, I’d have made a brilliant Australian.”

:rofl:


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