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Maggy 14-11-2009 19:18

Disfigured newsreader for Five
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8360092.stm

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A charity chief with a facial disfigurement will read the news on Channel Five for a week in an attempt to try to break down prejudice.
James Partridge, who is chief executive of Changing Faces, suffered severe burns in a car accident aged 18.
He will front the Five News lunchtime bulletin for a week from Monday.
I think this should become a much more regular occurence.The only way for people with disfigurement to feel really part of society is to be doing such high profile jobs and it just to be a normal matter of fact occasion.:)

piggy 14-11-2009 19:27

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it will be interesting, will people hear the news or see the disfigurement? imo it will be the latter and a pointless exercise.

Paul 14-11-2009 19:29

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I seriously doubt this will make any difference to peoples desire to see a "nice" news reader.

Peter_ 14-11-2009 19:34

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I have seen him on tv before and he comes across very well and will probably be better than 5's present newsreaders as he actually has a personality.

Stuart 14-11-2009 19:34

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So, the news organisations who have spent the last 15-20 years hiring ever more pretty news readers, and slowly getting rid of the ugly ones (John Snow, Alistair Stewart and Trevor McDonald being three exceptions, although none are really ugly as such), are now going to show someone who is disfigured for one week on probably their least viewed bulletin?

Russ 14-11-2009 19:49

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There'll be complaints....

Paul 14-11-2009 19:50

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Well since some people complain about just about anything, I guess there will.

martyh 14-11-2009 19:53

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if channel 5 feel that strongly this then why not hire someone disfigured permanantly instead of for a week ?

Maggy 14-11-2009 19:55

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34909724)
if channel 5 feel that strongly this then why not hire someone disfigured permanantly instead of for a week ?

Well I think the point is to stimulate discussion about this issue and possibly open the gates for it to become a normal occurrence.

Russ 14-11-2009 20:07

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I bet there'll be people claiming that he "scared the children".

martyh 14-11-2009 20:13

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909727)
Well I think the point is to stimulate discussion about this issue and possibly open the gates for it to become a normal occurrence.

i appreciate that but to me it smacks of experimenting with people who already have things a bit hard ,and how will they feel if at the end of the week they are told that "sorry we won't be doing this again because the public don't like looking at you"

Maggy 14-11-2009 20:16

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34909750)
i appreciate that but to me it smacks of experimenting with people who already have things a bit hard ,and how will they feel if at the end of the week they are told that "sorry we won't be doing this again because the public don't like looking at you"

So we shouldn't even bother?And yet these people have to already put up with ignorance and stupidity in their everyday life.I guess they shouldn't bother leaving home in that case.:rolleyes:

The fact is if we don't start here when do we start?It's called pushing the boundaries and challenging people to alter their viewpoint.That's never going to happen unless you just take a leap of faith and try it.

martyh 14-11-2009 20:22

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909755)
So we shouldn't even bother?And yet these people have to already put up with ignorance and stupidity in their everyday life.I guess they shouldn't bother leaving home in that case.:rolleyes:

The fact is if we don't start here when do we start?It's called pushing the boundaries and challenging people to alter their viewpoint.That's never going to happen unless you just take a leap of faith and try it.


like i said (if you bothered reading properly) Maggie hire him permanantly it will stimulate the same discussion possibly more ,and won't appear as an "experiment"

Maggy 14-11-2009 20:31

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34909760)
like i said (if you bothered reading properly) Maggie hire him permanantly it will stimulate the same discussion possibly more ,and won't appear as an "experiment"

Well yes that would be my way but it has to be baby steps in the media.Look at the complaints about the one armed children's presenter.There was no 'experiment' there.

Anyway this chap is always doing stuff like this.There is a superb portrait of him in the National Portrait Gallery in London.It's brilliant.:)

Flyboy 14-11-2009 20:40

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909685)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8360092.stm



I think this should become a much more regular occurence.The only way for people with disfigurement to feel really part of society is to be doing such high profile jobs and it just to be a normal matter of fact occasion.:)

Reading the lunchtime news bulletin on Channel Five is hardly high profile. ;)

But I can see a similar abhorrent campaign leveled at Cerrie Burnell from CBBC. Some of the comments made by the public were very, very disturbing and bordering on the criminal. I cannot understand some people's attitudes to this sort of thing. I wonder if they were ever to be in this situation, that they would want to treated in such a way?

Maggy 14-11-2009 22:11

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34909774)
Reading the lunchtime news bulletin on Channel Five is hardly high profile. ;)

But I can see a similar abhorrent campaign leveled at Cerrie Burnell from CBBC. Some of the comments made by the public were very, very disturbing and bordering on the criminal. I cannot understand some people's attitudes to this sort of thing. I wonder if they were ever to be in this situation, that they would want to treated in such a way?

So what?It's still a job on a major TV channel.:rolleyes:

Gary L 14-11-2009 22:22

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909685)
The only way for people with disfigurement to feel really part of society is to be doing such high profile jobs and it just to be a normal matter of fact occasion.:)

:shocked: :confused:

He isn't even that bad. what they going to do, ask us on a scale of 1 to 10 how scary he was, and depending on the results either stop the experiment, or stick another one on that's worse?

Maggy 14-11-2009 22:24

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34909828)
:shocked: :confused:

He isn't even that bad. what they going to do, ask us on a scale of 1 to 10 how scary he was, and depending on the results either stop the experiment, or stick another one on that's worse?

Why not just read the article and stop being so emotive.:erm:

Gary L 14-11-2009 22:29

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909829)
Why not just read the article and stop being so emotive.:erm:

I was being emotive about your statement. not so much about what they're doing.

LondonRoad 14-11-2009 22:59

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It's not too long ago there were parents "concerned" about their kids having nightmares because one of the Cbeebies presenters was born without one of her hands.

She's a very good presenter and I'm pleased to say that I actually forgot about her physical disability until this thread. My children have accepted her for what she is - a talented young lady - and provided me with the opportunity of explaining to them about people less fortunate than them. ;)

lydia33 14-11-2009 23:19

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I think what CH5 are doing is really great but he is going to be on at a time when most people are out, would be very bold of them indeed if they had put him on at 5.00pm my favourate CH 5 newsreader was Helen Fospero.

idi banashapan 15-11-2009 00:46

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34909755)
So we shouldn't even bother?And yet these people have to already put up with ignorance and stupidity in their everyday life.I guess they shouldn't bother leaving home in that case.:rolleyes:

The fact is if we don't start here when do we start?It's called pushing the boundaries and challenging people to alter their viewpoint.That's never going to happen unless you just take a leap of faith and try it.

I'm afraid some people in this world will not be budged on their viewpoint, no matter what is presented to them. this may end up being a complete waste of time if those people only see their way as being correct.

aesthetics plays a big part in acceptance by individuals, and society as a whole. a pretty face is much more appeasing and can be related to more readily than a disfigured one, purely because of day to day exposure by average Joe, who is more likely to see pretty than heavily scarred.

personally, I think it is a good move by channel 5, but I fear it will progress no further than this apparent week-long PR stunt as there are too many people who are so tunnel-visioned and wallow in their own belief system that they will outrightly refuse to accept anything different that does not concur with their own utopia. which is a shame. they may learn something about others and themselves if they dared to welcome new and different things.

Horace 15-11-2009 03:03

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I don't trust Ch5's motives in this but if it gains more acceptance in media for people who look different from the mainstream then it's a good thing.

Flyboy 15-11-2009 14:30

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I too would be sceptical about their motives. I wonder how this was conceived.

RizzyKing 16-11-2009 00:23

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I would support this if i thought for one second it would achieve something but sorry it won't. Why simple because most people cannot and will not understand his position or imagine themselves in it, they never do till it personally affects them. Also doing it for a week why so if it goes wrong they can quietly back away from it so if they were really interested in the stated agenda then hire someone permanently. Pr stunt for a channel that wants more viewers at a certain time and they will get them even if it is only the people out there looking for something to complain and these days in the UK there is plenty of them.

Stuart 16-11-2009 09:43

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34909774)
Reading the lunchtime news bulletin on Channel Five is hardly high profile. ;)

It's a start.

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But I can see a similar abhorrent campaign leveled at Cerrie Burnell from CBBC. Some of the comments made by the public were very, very disturbing and bordering on the criminal. I cannot understand some people's attitudes to this sort of thing. I wonder if they were ever to be in this situation, that they would want to treated in such a way?
It's those attitudes we have to change. It won't be a quick process, but hopefully this (and featuring other presenters who don't quite fit in with our ideas of acceptable TV presenters) will help.

I have to admit, I may have sounded a little anti-five in my previous reply in this thread. That wasn't the intention. The intention was to highlight the fact that the media in general (not five specifically) has been putting ever more "pretty" people on our screens..

I think the fact the five is doing this is good. OK, so it's only for a week, but it's a start. Maybe they are just trying to avoid the problems the BBC had.

Flyboy 16-11-2009 09:50

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Why only a week though and why are they scared of the so-called problems the BBC had? If they were serious about this, they would contract the newsreader and have him on permanently. I enjoy seeing Cerrie on the screen and she is is very competent at the job. I just find it reprehensible the things that were said about her and I applaud the BBC for ignoring them. I don't have the same confidence with Channel Five I'm afraid. Perhaps that's the cynic in me, borne by the fact they call this "an experiment." But hey, that's just me.

Stuart 16-11-2009 10:09

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34910429)
Why only a week though and why are they scared of the so-called problems the BBC had? If they were serious about this, they would contract the newsreader and have him on permanently. I enjoy seeing Cerrie on the screen and she is is very competent at the job. I just find it reprehensible the things that were said about her and I applaud the BBC for ignoring them. I don't have the same confidence with Channel Five I'm afraid. Perhaps that's the cynic in me, borne by the fact they call this "an experiment." But hey, that's just me.

The problem for Five is simple. If they suffer problems, advertisers may back away from the channel (nothing scares advertisers away like even the slightest whiff of bad publicity). This isn't a problem with the Beeb (thanks to the licence, they have a guaranteed income), but for any commercial channel, it can be fatal. This may be why they are being a little more cautious than the beeb were.

Now, I don't personally see why they should have problems, but then I have a simple view of which people are suitable for a job. Assuming they are capable of doing a job (or learning how to do it), they should be given the chance to do it regardless of race, sexuality, gender, disfigurement or any disability. I try to see the person and not their race, sexuality, gender, disfigurement or disability..

Maggy 17-11-2009 18:45

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Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34910438)
The problem for Five is simple. If they suffer problems, advertisers may back away from the channel (nothing scares advertisers away like even the slightest whiff of bad publicity). This isn't a problem with the Beeb (thanks to the licence, they have a guaranteed income), but for any commercial channel, it can be fatal. This may be why they are being a little more cautious than the beeb were.

Now, I don't personally see why they should have problems, but then I have a simple view of which people are suitable for a job. Assuming they are capable of doing a job (or learning how to do it), they should be given the chance to do it regardless of race, sexuality, gender, disfigurement or any disability. I try to see the person and not their race, sexuality, gender, disfigurement or disability..

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