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Formula 1 2010 Season [may contain real time spoilers]
As the last race of the 2009 season is upon us and already there's major talk/rumours of transfers/donington/rules/teams for 2010 I thought it's about time we had a new thread :)
Once the drivers are confirmed I'll put up the same poll as last year |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8322334.stm
Button in frame for McLaren drive That would be one hell of a season if this happened. Thoughts? |
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Already posted in the other thread...but remember that the news article is just a rumour, Button's agent is saying that Brawn are dragging thier heals over 2010 drivers and Kimi who is McLaren's first choice is uncontactable regarding this matter (he's probably peeved at Ferrari)
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I know one of the guys that Marshalls at Donnigton, or should I say ex-marshall.......they were given their P45's on Thursday.
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lets just hope Silverstone can do a deal. With Moto GP at the circuit too things are looking good on the investment front as long as Bernie doesn't want stupid money for it
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Bernie says F1 doesn't need the British GP and if Silverstone won't pay the going rate we could lose the race.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...24093032.shtml |
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Yet again Bernie is thinking about his own pocket before the fans.
Bye bye bernie, don't forget to shut the door on the way out. I cannot say what I want to say about bernie on this forum, as I'ld get banned for life. |
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Silverstone want more guarantees about their contract, but by the sounds of things Bernie's not giving it to them. The problem there is that if Bernie does say "sorry Donington, you've had your chance", then they've not only wasted the opportunity, but they've got no MotoGP, no F1, a building site, no money, and no track to race on. Better they build the bloody thing first and worry about money later. There's plenty of time to find money after the work's been done.
Silverstone could host it for 3 years guaranteed, then Bernie can re-open negotiations with Donington and/or Silverstone about hosting rights. Better yet, why not Brands Hatch? All it needs is run-off extended in a couple of places and it'd be perfect! |
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Could not agree more, I doubt there is better example of greed and arrogance on the planet. Given the recent near fall outs with the board of CVC maybe there is hope. Would CVC want to be the ones to take a British GP away? |
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Kymmy, one for confirmed for the poll :)
Bruno Senna at Campos........ http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79887 |
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Yep, just read it myself :)
BBC report @ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8311919.stm I think that Bruno is one of the very few "relatives of famous drivers" who could be succesful given time... That's the crux though will he be given time?? |
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Will anybody here be watching the F1 season next year if there is no British GP?
I will have to think hard. ---------- Post added at 12:26 ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 ---------- Mandelson demands British GP fix http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88...l#post34901472 |
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Yep, I'll be watching it
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I'll be watching it whatever,I hope they get the British GP sorted though.
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Cause we`ll still probably watch it but you know with F1 it allways "go with the doe" :p:
How long till we have 4 or 5 middle east races? |
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Donnington's owner has died: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8336737.stm
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Williams have now named thier 2010 drivers
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Bridgestone won't be renewing their contract from the end of the 2010 season to supply the tyres.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8337284.stm |
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Red Bull are sticking with Renault as their engine suppler for 2010.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...02115313.shtml |
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Looks like Sauber will get a grid slot after all. Toyota are set to pull out of F1,:( hopefully Kobayashi will get a seat with one of the other teams.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80002 |
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What the hell's this sport coming to? If Toyota actually reduced their costs, became a team that bought in an engine supplier, for instance, then maybe that would see favour with the board.
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Hmmm, that's bad news for Kobayashi :(
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This should pave the way for Sauber to take the 13th grid spot now.
The tyre supplier Bridgestone also pulled out the other day too. |
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Renault are due to discuss their future this week to so not sure what will happen to them. Sauber are now part of Quadbak who are a bit shady to be honest. Maybe if F1 didn't need 60 computers running and an engineer in front of each one during a race we wouldn't be in this mess |
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Renault's thinking of pulling out too
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8343221.stm Edit > This is in disarray, The FIA wanted to reduce costs but the teams led by Ferrari didn't want this. The FIA need to act now as in tonight. The tyres situation - will Michelin step in? wasn't the reason why F1 chose Bridgestone over Michelin was, Michelin didn't perform as well. This is a global competition and if Michelin were to come in, it will look like they are second best to me. |
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Michelin pulled out as they couldn't see the point in being a single tyre supplier. With one in there the only time they would get publicity was during a failure etc. That's why Bridgestone came up with the stupid two tyre rules so they were still talked about.
Renault have been thinking about leaving for awhile. In fact the reason they didn't get punished for crashgate was because if they did then they would have left the sport instead |
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Ferrari have now opened thier big mouths
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I like it, Ferrari need to step up.
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Renault will decide by the end of the year whether they're staying in F1.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8345394.stm |
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Rumour Mill Update;;)
Source Joe Sawards blog ! Kobayashi to race for Lotus Renault to use the Gordini brand as the their sporting focus. What chance a rebranding of the F1 team ? M |
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Jenson visits McLaren,
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2 British world champs for a British team that can afford and know how to build a fast car, interesting. I think that would be a good thing. |
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Hmm, don't know about that. The internal competition would be difficult to handle, I would have thought. Look at the trouble Alonso caused, it cost them over one hundred million pounds and a loss of all their points for the 2007 season. For the competition to be kept interesting, I would like to think that they were competing not only as teams, but as drivers as well.
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Now that is a shame. This sport needs grassroots teams like Brawn to keep the competition alive. It will look even more like a prestige car showroom now.
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On the contrary with Honda, Toyota, BMW and possibly Renault all pulling out it's quite encouraging for a big manuafacturer to invest in the sport.
Hopefully there will be several more teams including USF1 and Lotus next year to mix it up a bit. Personally I'm hoping Antony Davidson gets a drive somewhere. Looks like Jenson will most likely end up at Mclaren - that will be fun. The last time Mclaren had an all brit team was back with Brundle and Blundell if I remember correctly. |
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I feel a repeat of Alonso and Hamilton coming on. I hope I'm wrong, but as JB will be paid far less than Hamilton, so, I think some friction is inevitable.
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I'll give you evens thet JB will be with LH next year.
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Not sure if it's a good or bad move for Button to be looking to drive that Macca, but with Mercedes engines, a great car to base next year's model on, and a team-mate guaranteed to not be a pushover for the title, I'd love to see him stick it to Hamilton! |
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Even the though the race team and engine factory are both in the UK whats the betting the team will be registered as German.;) No obvious room for Raikkonen on the grid. Would he go to Renault alongside Kubica or will there be pressure for a French driver in a Blue and White Renault Gordini ?? |
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Depends on the personalities of the drivers too I think Hamilton and Button might be able to race against each other better than with Alonso and Hamilton. McLaren only produce a good car every other year so looks like next year is the year to be there. A lot will also depend on how the car drives will it suit both their styles |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009...laren-contract
If this is true then it is Lewis and Jenson next year. Maclaren will still be supplied with Merc engines through the 2015 season but don't be surprised if the following season Maclaren are using their own engines. One thing for sure JB will be a better partner than Kovi. |
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I said it in the 2009 thread, although I don;t like JB (and never hid that fact) I'd love to see him at McLaren. A team with a truely British theme to it would really get the press who have had a lot of bad things to report about F1 this last year (and of course a few good things) behind the sport more and more in this country like in Italy, Brazil...etc..
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Raikkonen is officially taking a sabattical.
Source autosport. Brawn are still stating negotiations are ongoing with JB and that the McLaren media specualtion is not helping...... |
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[2pennies]Jenson at McLaren won't last. I don't even rate him. He only did what he did because of the legend that is Ross Brawn.
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hmm.. I don't rate JB either - he did very well when his car was better than everyone else's - but if they'd all started off on an even keel he'd be nowhere near the top of the points.
I think the second half of the season showed his driving ability, whilst good, isn't good enough. |
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People seem to forget that, at the start of the season, while Jenson was doing well because he had the best car, Hamilton was at the other end of the grid because his car wasn't any good. Only when his car improved did Hamilton start moveing up the grid. Very rarely has a driver with an inferior car won a championship, in fact the only person that regularly made a car outperform itself was Schumacher in the late 90's when he raced the arse off an inferior Ferrari, but he still failed to beat the Williams of Villneuve and Mclaren of Hakkinen. Only when Ferrari got the car right did Schmacher start winning his championships. IMO, all these people who are saying that Button only won because he had the best car do not understand F1 very much. Yes, he had the best car and yes he won, he should have been winning. Later in the year when the other teams caught up he still managed to hang in there and continue to score points, that's what won him the championship. Towards the end of the year Redbull had the best car -guess what - they started winning. We'll see next year. I don't think Hamilton will dominate button. As long as they have identical equipment. |
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Raikkonen rejects F1 for rallying
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8365967.stm Only because he was asking for way to much |
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These stats are telling of the prospects of who will dominate the next year's season:
Jenson Button (GBR) Date of birth: 19 January 1980 (29) World championships: 1 (2009) Wins: 7 Pole positions: 7 Points: 327 GP starts: 170 Lewis Hamilton (GBR) Date of birth: 7 January 1985 (24) World championships: 1 (2008) Wins: 11 Pole positions: 17 Points: 256 GP starts: 52 |
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but there are other variables to take into consideration.. What if McLaren, do the same as last year, totally mess things up and bye-bye. What is Hamilton buckles under the pressure, the same goes for Button.. There are so many variables, on paper we all know who the most likely person is to win but, I know who I want to win but I am not putting my money on anyone, of course, Ill be following McLaren as I have done since the days of MH & DC. |
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whats the difference between yours and post#51 |
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I thought there was something more toit |
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Why do I reckon JB's sold his soul?
Also, the BBC are reporting that Rosberg seems to have signed a deal with Brawn / Mercedes as guaranteed, despite them not having confirmed anything yet. |
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Just going back over the news of the BrawnGP part buy-out. I have heard that BrawnGP are to be called the Silver Arrow Mercedes, but on the BBC site it says it's to be called Mercedes Grand Prix.
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The team name can be different from the owning companies name. The full press release on the brawn site details it fully
http://www.brawngp.com/readstory.asp...C1%AA%C0rZ%7Cg |
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I heard it was Mercedes GP.
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Silver Arrows is the original name for the cars and dates back 75 years.
In other news The company that ran the Donington bid has gone into administration http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/8366581.stm |
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Am I in the right ball park? |
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Sounds about right to me!! |
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1. The current cars aero package can be mostly carried over and so no total redesign is needed 2. They started next years car earlier because they weren't busy trying to win a title this year. Quote:
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No matter what the team is called the owners can have a different name, for the constructors championship the team name is taken. |
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Hmm, I seem to remember that there was some controversy over this at the time. Perhaps it was settled in the usual way.;)
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as long as it's the same team the name of the holding company and the team name doesn't really matter.
Ferrari are Ferrari Spa ( i think) but the team is Scuderia Ferrari, McLaren is McLaren Cars, which is owned by The McLaren Group but the team is Vodaphone McLaren Mercedes |
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With the Button McLaren move now finalised, it seems Raikkonen could after all stay in F1 and pop up at Brawn. :confused:
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Do Mercedes need a top driver ? Are Rosberg & Heidfeld really Top Gun material ? Some press reports have stated that being in a winning car is more important than the money for Kimi !!! So Lewis & Jenson believe McLaren have a winning car yet Raikkonen would prefer Brawn (Mercedes) :confused: Other press releases, including one from Nick Fry at Brawn state that the media speculation regarding their offer to Jenson was no where near the true package on offer so maybe they have enough cash for Kimi ? :confused: :confused: |
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Tough choice for Raikkonen, maybe he just needs a break after been stabbed in the back by Ferrari? who knows.. either way, I want to see him in F1 and Mercedes should pull their finger out, if they want a return on their investment. Otherwise, Merc, I think will be at "the back of the pack" |
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Kimi has already been paid 20m before he's even raced this year based on Ferrari buying out his contract. If he had the desire he could have raced for free at McLaren. They said McLaren couldn't afford him so i think that says it all
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From what I see they want German drivers, I understand that decision but at the same time, Roseburg is just pants and or not been given a decent car to compete. |
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Frank Williams and Patrick Head have sold a minority in the team "between 10% and 49%" to an investment firm headed by Toto Wolff.
autosport.com - F1 News: Williams says he will stay in control |
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Of course, I believe it's now between 10.1% and 48.9%
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That's better, it's a little clearer now. :D
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I say good on him. Nice to see to be honest. I so want Williams to do "more" they have the potential me thinks! ---------- Post added at 16:04 ---------- Previous post was at 14:40 ---------- BBC Sport - F1 - Michael Schumacher 'will drive for Mercedes F1 in 2010' Michael Schumacher 'will drive for Mercedes F1 in 2010 EDITED: I note BBC F1 have changed it too "Mercedes want Michael Schumacher to drive in F1 team" |
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There goes a flying pig:D |
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Not a good choice. It is unlikely he can now beat the younger fresher talent on the grid today. He hasn't driven competitively since two thousand and six. It has not been a very successful course for many drivers who take "sabbaticals."
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I cite N. Lauda as a successful driver who took a sabbatical. ;)
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I doubit will happen. Would be interesting and certainly throws a spanner in the works.
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well seeing as that article is based on quotes from Eddie Jordan I don't give it much credit
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9th December is the deadline for the British GP
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Confirmed, Nico Rosberg to drive for MercedesGP in 2010.
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