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papa smurf 04-10-2009 15:02

is Blair to become EU President ?
 
Cherie Blair is expected to begin house-hunting in Brussels within weeks after Irish voters paved the way for her husband to become Europe’s most powerful man, the EU President.

The referendum result has removed the largest barrier to creating the role that Tony Blair is expected to win this year, giving his wife unprecedented influence as EU First Lady.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0SyJ8PuUg
for mail distrusters http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3177218.ece

just when you though he'd gone .

Chris 04-10-2009 15:16

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Well whaddayaknow, the Tories were right all along. He's the Antichrist.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/04/3.gif

:D

freezin 04-10-2009 15:17

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If Blair gets enough support from across the other member states, I want to know why. What's in it for them?

An introductory paragraph from an article in the The Economst.

Quote:

WHY does the thought of a “President Tony Blair” in Europe make people so cross? Something about the idea sends prominent euro-politicians into paroxysms. Take Daniel Cohn-Bendit, co-leader of the Green faction in the European Parliament: he calls a Blair candidacy “absurd”, damning him as a zealous advocate of the Iraq war that divided Europe, and blaming him for “Thatcher-inherited neoliberal politics” that sowed the seeds of today’s economic crisis.

Sirius 04-10-2009 15:26

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Please Noooooooooooooooo

We must not let this lying conniving git become the President of the EU, Look what he a mess he made of this country and look at all the young men we have lost in Iraq because of his lies.

papa smurf 04-10-2009 15:31

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34883688)
Please Noooooooooooooooo

We must not let this lying conniving git become the President of the EU, Look what he a mess he made of this country and look at all the young men we have lost in Iraq because of his lies.

frightening isn't it .

Mr Angry 04-10-2009 15:56

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It could be worse, he could be a religious zealot.

Oops.....

RizzyKing 04-10-2009 16:09

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Yeah lets have blair for president and perhaps then we can have an EU chancellor and GB can have that when he gets booted out of parliament next year. Talk about never learning from history and talk like this is meant to make me take the EU more seriously lol.

Earl of Bronze 04-10-2009 17:32

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The only thing Tony Bliar should be, is a defendant at the ICC....

Peter_ 04-10-2009 17:36

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Kind of makes you think about grassy knolls:D

To think that Europe is stupid enough to want this man as their president and the grinning clown as first lady, all he will be their for is to fill his bank accounts.

Does the European parliament not know about Iraq and Afghanistan, maybe he will try and get all member states to join his next war.

papa smurf 04-10-2009 17:39

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Originally Posted by Moldova (Post 34883754)
Kind of makes you think about grassy knolls:D

To think that Europe is stupid enough to want this man as their president and the grinning clown as first lady, all he will be their for is to fill his bank accounts.

Does the European parliament not know about Iraq and Afghanistan, maybe he will try and get all member states to join his next war.

ww3 perhaps? - the man doe's have ambition;)

Peter_ 04-10-2009 17:41

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34883756)
ww3 perhaps? - the man doe's have ambition;)

America has a love of oil and he is their favourite lapdog and Europe has a large military arm that the president could use.:D

Not sure which president mind.

soicky 29-10-2009 17:35

Blair 'excellent' for EU job
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8331301.stm

Quote:

Gordon Brown has said Tony Blair is an "excellent candidate" to be the first president of the European Council, at a meeting of EU leaders in Brussels.

More great news from the man himself. :rolleyes:

Osem 29-10-2009 17:38

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Yes, even more evidence - if any were needed - that Gordon Brown has all the charisma, leadership qualities and judgement of a squashed fox...

Saaf_laandon_mo 29-10-2009 17:51

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How can he be president. We haven't even adopted the Euro! He went out of his way to be closer to the US than Europe and now he wants to be the president?

soicky 29-10-2009 18:24

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He seems to be a great puppet, so is the ideal candidate.

Kymmy 29-10-2009 18:26

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Latest thread merged with original thread

BBKing 29-10-2009 23:48

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is Blair to become EU President ?
No, Sarkozy and Merkel will stitch him up like a kipper. When your only backers are Gordon Brown and Silvio Berlusconi it's probably all over bar the shouting. I quite like the look of John Bruton personally, he's got the right pedigree, being a former Vice-President of the EPP bloc which Sarkozy and Merkel are in (but not our Tories, who prefer fringe d*ckheads from eastern Europe).

You also have to remember that no one on the left in Europe will back Blair because of Iraq, while most of the right will back whoever Sarko and Merkel want (which isn't Blair) so his chances were always fairly slim. Whoever's been pushing his candidacy* has amazingly managed to end up embarrassing Gordon Brown without much effort. Fancy that.

* T. Blair, one suspects.

Maggy 30-10-2009 00:16

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It's not so much that it's Tony B or anyone of the other numerous likely candidates.What I mind is that we step closer to a federal Europe without any of the millions of Europeans actually having a vote as to whether they want a federal Europe.:mad:

SMG 30-10-2009 01:49

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It will never happen Maggy. If it did, Blair will sell the EU down the river alongside us.

I think BBKing`s post is right, he will get stitched up.

But, with Gordon the great`s recomendation, he`s guaranteed not to be elected.

Maggy 30-10-2009 10:03

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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34900388)
It will never happen Maggy. If it did, Blair will sell the EU down the river alongside us.

I think BBKing`s post is right, he will get stitched up.

But, with Gordon the great`s recomendation, he`s guaranteed not to be elected.

Excuse me but it will..There IS going to be a permanent President of the EU and it will be another step towards a federal Europe.It won't be TB but it will be one of many possibilities..So be very afraid....

I want to be part of a loosely affiliated European common market yes but not a European State.

RizzyKing 30-10-2009 11:57

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With you Maggy i have no problem with a free trade setup in europe but the idea of a federal europe sends shivers down my spine and isn't a good thing for any of us.

Pierre 30-10-2009 13:44

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34900429)
Excuse me but it will..There IS going to be a permanent President of the EU and it will be another step towards a federal Europe.It won't be TB but it will be one of many possibilities..So be very afraid....

I want to be part of a loosely affiliated European common market yes but not a European State.

We already have many EU presidents, blair would not become THE president of the EU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ean_Commission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ean_Parliament

Blair would be President of the European Council

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ropean_Council

The presidency of the EU would still, as is now, be shared by member state leaders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...European_Union

We're still a way off from becoming a federalised super state.

It's just more jobs for the boys

Osem 30-10-2009 13:48

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Given the history of the UK in Europe it beats me why anyone would think that Bliar will get the job. The French and Germans would never accept it for one thing. It's far more likely to go to a faceless Belgian than Bliar... That aside, Brown's recent vote of full confidence is bound to be the nail in this particular coffin - I mean, everything he touches turns to brown, sticky, smelly stuff...

Maggy 30-10-2009 13:53

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34900519)
We already have many EU presidents, blair would not become THE president of the EU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ean_Commission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ean_Parliament

Blair would be President of the European Council

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...ropean_Council

The presidency of the EU would still, as is now, be shared by member state leaders

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preside...European_Union

We're still a way off from becoming a federalised super state.

It's just more jobs for the boys

I wish you lot would stop worrying about Blair,it's not him that I'm scared of especially as no one else among the members wants him apart from GB.He's got no chance.Just worry who else it could be.It's been OK just having them take turns for 6 months at a time.5 year stints will be disastrous and it's still a step nearer to a federal Europe.

phaze9 30-10-2009 13:55

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Sorry but maybe someone could explain why we need an EU president who has no power and no authority over member states ( or at least that is what I understand it....maybe wrong but ....). Is this not another jobs for the boys ?

Pierre 30-10-2009 14:01

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34900528)
It's been OK just having them take turns for 6 months at a time.5 year stints will be disastrous and it's still a step nearer to a federal Europe.

The Presidency of the EU will continue to be six months and be member state leaders.

No one is mentioning 5 years stints for that.

Maggy 30-10-2009 14:11

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34900535)
The Presidency of the EU will continue to be six months and be member state leaders.

No one is mentioning 5 years stints for that.

Really? Then someone should be telling the Labour party that because that's not what I heard on the Today programme in a discussion a couple of days ago between a labour rep and Mr Hague...:shrug:

Pierre 30-10-2009 14:26

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34900539)
Really? Then someone should be telling the Labour party that because that's not what I heard on the Today programme in a discussion a couple of days ago between a labour rep and Mr Hague...:shrug:

As I mentioned earlier, what Presidency were they discussing?

There are several Presidencies within the EU structure.

President of the European Commission
President of the European Parliament
President of the European Council
President of the European Union

Maggy 30-10-2009 15:07

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Well the one that lasts for 6 months obviously..seeing as I already mentioned it..:rolleyes:

Julian 30-10-2009 15:14

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I'm all for blair getting the job as there would be more likelihood of a crazed lunatic* having a pop at him. :)



*Actually being a crazed lunatic is not a requirement ...

Pierre 30-10-2009 15:59

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34900579)
Well the one that lasts for 6 months obviously..seeing as I already mentioned it..:rolleyes:

Well there are no plans to change the President of the European Union term from 6 months to five years, so you heard it wrong.

Maggy 30-10-2009 16:13

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 34900603)
Well there are no plans to change the President of the European Union term from 6 months to five years, so you heard it wrong.

Well I can only assume that one Labour politician thinks it's the case because I heard him say so..And no I cannot remember hearing his name.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0SyJ8PuUg
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Research by The Mail on Sunday has found that if Mr Blair serves the maximum five years – two consecutive two-and-a-half year terms – he will net a package worth £3.65million. His salary will be taxed at a special rate for Eurocrats, averaging 25 per cent.
from the OP.

Now I know we distrust the Mail but surely they must have got the idea from somewhere as did I.

---------- Post added at 15:13 ---------- Previous post was at 15:01 ----------

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8333192.stm

Quote:

Tony Blair's hopes of becoming president of the European Council are fading after his supporters failed to secure the backing of EU leaders.
Quote:

Meanwhile ratification of the Lisbon Treaty, which creates the post, moved closer after EU leaders struck a deal with the Czech president.
So which position are we talking about here?

Pierre 30-10-2009 16:28

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I don't know, can't be bothered working it out.

One of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...European_Union

papa smurf 18-11-2009 18:26

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Blair could still land Europe job after Belgian rival 'Rumpy' calls for new taxes

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0XEV1iOxL


great news :rolleyes: does anyone have a revolver i can borrow.

NoKnowledge 18-11-2009 18:36

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I quite like that Luxembourg character :tu:

papa smurf 18-11-2009 19:55

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Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34911586)
I quite like that Luxembourg character :tu:

he's a banker ;)

NoKnowledge 18-11-2009 20:01

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Is that with a double-u

Peter_ 18-11-2009 20:25

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Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 34911623)
Is that with a double-u

No that is especially for blair.;)

Sirius 19-11-2009 19:13

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Breaking news

Blair Out Of Race To Be EU President

Now that is excellent news :)

Quote:

Adam said: "We should stress that Tony Blair has never said that he was a candidate, so technically he has not been rejected.
rollocks :)

Osem 19-11-2009 19:27

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Yes excellent news - not that he ever had a real chance of being elected. It'll go to some Belgian bloke with a personality bypass.

BBKing 19-11-2009 20:17

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Now that is excellent news
If unsurprising. Gordon has, rather cleverly, appeared to use the whole Blair smokescreen to get his own nonentity, Baroness Ashton, into the foreign affairs role. It was a stitch up, as expected - the dominent Right got a Christian right-winger in as President, the largest Left group got one of theirs into the High Commissioner role.

Incidentally, all of this does go to show how silly the whole 'bye bye UK' stuff about Lisbon was - what's happened is exactly what always happens in international diplomacy, the big boys carve it up between them and do deals behind closed doors. The trick is to remain one of the big boys, if you're a realist.

Osem 20-11-2009 12:10

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BBC News - Ashton: 'I am best person for EU foreign job'

I like this quote by Nigel Farage:

Quote:

"Baroness Ashton is ideal for the role. She has never had a proper job and never been elected to public office."

Earl of Bronze 20-11-2009 12:31

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Can't say I'm surprised that two complete non-entities who are unknown outside their own countries got the jobs.... What a horrible waste of time, energy and money the EU has become....

BBKing 25-11-2009 12:24

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I like this quote by Nigel Farage:
I don't like Nigel Farage though, he's a complete idiot.

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What a horrible waste of time, energy and money the EU has become....
You'd have preferred Blair then? What's happened is that the EU turns out to be a group of sovereign states in a trading union, which I thought was what Eurosceptics wanted?

nomadking 25-11-2009 13:05

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So how many of the the rules and directives are only concerned with it just being a trading union?


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