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superkame 14-09-2009 07:53

I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Hi I'm interested in the Intel Pentium D 945 Socket 775 3.40GHZ Processor. I currently have a Pentium D 2.80GHZ chip but to play bluray I need 3.0ghz. My motherboard has a 775 socket and 2GB of Ram. What I'm unsure about is whether my computer's RAM will support this or does it not matter? Or What do I need to lookout for when buying a Intel Chip?

Dai 14-09-2009 09:17

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Make and model of motherboard would be useful. You may be able to use a multi-core CPU as a replacement.

Core2 duo or quad would almost certainly play better than the Pentium.

CHiLL 14-09-2009 09:50

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Like DaiNasty said, a Core2 would surely make the viewing better, as well as other overall performance. It's whether your motherboard can support a Core2 processor. What is your motherboard make/model?

zing_deleted 14-09-2009 09:55

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
To play blu ray you will also need a decent graphics card to output 1080p and plenty and I mean plenty of ram

Dai the Pentium D are dual core ;)

http://processorfinder.intel.com/det...px?sSpec=SL8CP

superkame 14-09-2009 12:15

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34872201)
Make and model of motherboard would be useful. You may be able to use a multi-core CPU as a replacement.

Core2 duo or quad would almost certainly play better than the Pentium.

My motherboard is a AsRock Conroe Presler.

zing_deleted 14-09-2009 13:16

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
ok a quick google and Asrock gives 2 options of board neither natches your actual name and neither does any in their support list which isnt unusual lol What chipset doesit have? The Presler core was the last of the Pentium D and Obviously Conroe was C2D ---------- Post added at 13:16 ---------- Previous post was at 13:13 ----------

http://www.asrock.com/news/show.asp?ID=90 is this the board? if it is then you can not have Quad core at all and the FSB maxes @ 800 mhz so its E2 duals or E4 duals with upto date bios

ZrByte 14-09-2009 13:44

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34872273)
ok a quick google and Asrock gives 2 options of board neither natches your actual name and neither does any in their support list which isnt unusual lol What chipset doesit have? The Presler core was the last of the Pentium D and Obviously Conroe was C2D ---------- Post added at 13:16 ---------- Previous post was at 13:13 ----------

http://www.asrock.com/news/show.asp?ID=90 is this the board? if it is then you can not have Quad core at all and the FSB maxes @ 800 mhz so its E2 duals or E4 duals with upto date bios

I think the E5 duals have an 800 fsb too unless there is something else that effects the compatibility im not aware of.

zing_deleted 14-09-2009 14:35

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Model=775i945GZ&s=775 not on the cpu support list but maybe its not been updated

ZrByte 14-09-2009 16:12

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Out of interest how much where you planning to pay for your 945? They often tend to cost more than the basic C2Ds and perform significantly less. Just thinking that if the CPU is going to cost enough more it might be a better idea to get a newer mobo and C2D CPU for only a small amount more than you would pay for the 945 alone. And thats assuming your board doesn't support one of the lower end C2Ds which it may as Zing has pointed out.

Dai 14-09-2009 17:09

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34872210)

Dai the Pentium D are dual core ;)

Oops, so they are.. I managed to miss that generation of processors somehow.

Druchii 14-09-2009 18:46

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
I certainly didn't ;)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=116416

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Then of course came Conroe ;)
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=197396

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Just for comparison, the E6300 on stock (1.86Ghz) was faster than my 805D at 4Ghz.

superkame 15-09-2009 08:19

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34872347)
Out of interest how much where you planning to pay for your 945? They often tend to cost more than the basic C2Ds and perform significantly less. Just thinking that if the CPU is going to cost enough more it might be a better idea to get a newer mobo and C2D CPU for only a small amount more than you would pay for the 945 alone. And thats assuming your board doesn't support one of the lower end C2Ds which it may as Zing has pointed out.

£42 delivered from eBAY.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34872273)
ok a quick google and Asrock gives 2 options of board neither natches your actual name and neither does any in their support list which isnt unusual lol What chipset doesit have? The Presler core was the last of the Pentium D and Obviously Conroe was C2D ---------- Post added at 13:16 ---------- Previous post was at 13:13 ----------


http://www.asrock.com/news/show.asp?ID=90 is this the board? if it is then you can not have Quad core at all and the FSB maxes @ 800 mhz so its E2 duals or E4 duals with upto date bios

Heres a picture of my motherboard:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/4Core...A(Enlarge).jpg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34872201)
Make and model of motherboard would be useful. You may be able to use a multi-core CPU as a replacement.

Core2 duo or quad would almost certainly play better than the Pentium.


How much is the Quadcore Dou and is it safe to buy secondhand?

Druchii 15-09-2009 08:42

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
It supports all of these processors:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Mod...ual-VSTA&s=775

superkame 15-09-2009 08:56

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34872651)
It supports all of these processors:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Mod...ual-VSTA&s=775

Dai mentioned that the core2dou or quad plays much better than Pentium D. I've looked through the list that supports my motherboard and have not seen any of the ones hes mentioned. (I need at least 3.0ghz to play blu-ray)

So the Pentium D 945 3.40GHZ i want to buy is suitable for my computer according to the list. but is it my best option?

Druchii 15-09-2009 09:06

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Indeed, it mentions 3Ghz as a base speed, perhaps for the Pentium or Pentium D series.
The Core2 or Core2Quad series is a hell of a lot more powerful however, so, 2Ghz+ should be fine for Bluray.

Looking through that supported list of processors though, most of them are old and no longer sold as new parts. The ones that are still new cost £140+ it seems.
I'd wait for zing to advise you here.

superkame 15-09-2009 09:44

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34872668)
Indeed, it mentions 3Ghz as a base speed, perhaps for the Pentium or Pentium D series.
The Core2 or Core2Quad series is a hell of a lot more powerful however, so, 2Ghz+ should be fine for Bluray.

Looking through that supported list of processors though, most of them are old and no longer sold as new parts. The ones that are still new cost £140+ it seems.
I'd wait for zing to advise you here.

Ok well I will go with the Core2 or Core2Quad if thats my best option, but how much GHZ do I need?

zing_deleted 15-09-2009 10:43

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
make sure you look at the cpu compatabilty list I posted there is no quad on it and only a few C2Ds

damien c 15-09-2009 10:56

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
if the pic that you linked to is your mobo then you should be fine with a intel q6600 as they have a fsb of 1066 which is the highest that the board, will support but you will probably need to flash to the latest bios.

i have had blu-ray rips playing on a pentium 4 3.0ghz, but it was let down by the graphics card as, it is only a old nvidia pci card.

it will be cheaper to get a good core 2 duo would probably be better dependent on what you use the pc for as it will be cheaper for you.

zing_deleted 15-09-2009 11:02

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
I missed the pic me bad so its not the Conroe Pressler at all then lol @ the op could you actually take a pic of it in the case so we can be sure as you have told us different things about it now and that is only a stock photo

ZrByte 15-09-2009 11:12

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
I have watched blu ray movies on my current laptop which only has a 2.16Ghz dual core CPU. The most important factor by far is the graphics chipset.

superkame 16-09-2009 07:04

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34872731)
I missed the pic me bad so its not the Conroe Pressler at all then lol @ the op could you actually take a pic of it in the case so we can be sure as you have told us different things about it now and that is only a stock photo

It is a conroe Pressler (Kentsfield) I posted the picture earlier from a website but here it is again http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/4Core...A(Enlarge).jpg
I don't have a camera so I can't show you what mine looks like, but I'm quite confident that is my motherbaord.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 34872734)
I have watched blu ray movies on my current laptop which only has a 2.16Ghz dual core CPU. The most important factor by far is the graphics chipset.

Wow thanks hope that will be the same for my desktop if I do decide to get QuadCore.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by damien c (Post 34872728)
if the pic that you linked to is your mobo then you should be fine with a intel q6600 as they have a fsb of 1066 which is the highest that the board, will support but you will probably need to flash to the latest bios.

i have had blu-ray rips playing on a pentium 4 3.0ghz, but it was let down by the graphics card as, it is only a old nvidia pci card.

it will be cheaper to get a good core 2 duo would probably be better dependent on what you use the pc for as it will be cheaper for you.

Ok well I use my computer for playing WoW most of the time. I have a Nvidea 9400GT Fanless Graphics card (512Mb + HDMI socket). I was thinking about the Core 2 Dou but is it enough to play bluray?

zing_deleted 16-09-2009 07:24

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Your spouting CPU core names when talking about a motherboard why?The Conroe was released July and August 06 and the Kentsfield Nov 06 and Jan 07 XE first the standard for each. The board I linked to earlier had the name Conroe Pressler with a model number underneath the board you linked to is something else entirely in fact it says Conroe Kentsfield on it no mention of Presler on the board at all although it supports it.

The actual model name for that board is 4CoreDual-vsta

Druchii 16-09-2009 07:25

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Would the best solution here be to download Everest and get the mobo name from that?
Not sure where to get it from as Zing normally suggests this ;)

zing_deleted 16-09-2009 07:28

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
google majorgeeks:everest

superkame 16-09-2009 07:29

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 34872201)
Make and model of motherboard would be useful. You may be able to use a multi-core CPU as a replacement.

Core2 duo or quad would almost certainly play better than the Pentium.


I just downloaded CPU-Z and found out this information about the motherboard.

Model: 4CoreDual-VSTA
Chipset: VIA PT880 Pro
My Intel Chip: Pentium D 915 (2.80GHZ)


So my options are:
Core™ Quad / Core™ 2 Extreme / Core™ 2 Duo / Pentium® XE / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D

I want to be able to watch bluray so which of these is my best option?

zing_deleted 16-09-2009 07:32

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
ok follow the cpu support list Druchi gave and remember that name for future refference

superkame 16-09-2009 10:01

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34873242)
ok follow the cpu support list Druchi gave and remember that name for future refference

So my options are:
Core™ Quad / Core™ 2 Extreme / Core™ 2 Duo / Pentium® XE / Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D

I want to be able to watch bluray so which of these is my best option?

PS: thanks for the tip I'm learning something new eveyday =)

Druchii 16-09-2009 10:10

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
I would be going with either of these two:

Core™ 2 Duo / Core™ 2 Quad

Quad is most likely overkill for that kind of thing though.

ZrByte 16-09-2009 18:38

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii (Post 34873303)
I would be going with either of these two:

Coreâ„¢ 2 Duo / Coreâ„¢ 2 Quad

Quad is most likely overkill for that kind of thing though.

I agree, unless a 945 falls into your lap very cheaply as it did for me. I got mine with a working dell optiplex 745 for £60, should have cost about £260.
I would probably go for an older second hand E6 dual core, though an E2 or E4 Dual core would probably work just as good for your needs.

superkame 17-09-2009 07:25

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
How do check if a CPU will run Blu-Ray?

dragon 17-09-2009 20:36

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superkame (Post 34873870)
How do check if a CPU will run Blu-Ray?

As has already been said that depends as much on the GPU as the CPU.

A good graphics board will be able to do a lot of the work required thus taking load of the CPU. ;)

zing_deleted 17-09-2009 22:39

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superkame (Post 34873870)
How do check if a CPU will run Blu-Ray?



you bung a blu ray rom in the machine install software to decode it and insert a blu ray disc into the rom and play it. If it lags then the system isnt upto it ;)

superkame 18-09-2009 05:18

Re: I want to upgrade my computers Intel chip
 
Ok thanks for all your input much appreciated. I think I know which one I'll go for now. :) all the best


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