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sc00ter 10-09-2009 00:02

will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870

will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870 ??

i take it there not in the free mins

do we think they will change like bt and sky have ??

sc00terx

BenMcr 10-09-2009 00:05

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Virgin have had phone plans that include 0845/0870, along with mobiles and international calls for at least the last two years

It's called Talk Anywhere

sc00ter 10-09-2009 00:22

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34869881)
Virgin have had phone plans that include 0845/0870, along with mobiles and international calls for at least the last two years

It's called Talk Anywhere

no not in there mobile phone plan but in there normal land line mins like talk XL or what evere it is on virgin

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/webs...ct.do?id=10258 does this let you call o870 o845 fro free well if you have unlimited calls that is ??


sc00terx

BenMcr 10-09-2009 00:26

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
That isn't a mobile plan. Talk Anywhere is landline call plan

sc00ter 10-09-2009 00:29

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34869901)
That isn't a mobile plan. Talk Anywhere is landline call plan

yup but on bt or sky if you have a call plan like that it includes 0845 and 0870 they left off 0871 :( but a lot or moveing to 0300 and they are classed as free if you have a call plan on vm bt or sky

sc00terx

BenMcr 10-09-2009 00:39

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Sky don't include 0845, only 0870

sc00ter 10-09-2009 00:44

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34869911)
Sky don't include 0845, only 0870

ah k sorry may bad :)

i am hopeing that all will have them in the call packs at some point or the pepole useing the 0845 or 0870 or 0871 will go to 0300


thanks for the replys thoe BenMcr :)

sc00terx

pjo123 29-09-2009 17:27

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
You can set up an account with 18185 then dial their freephone number.

Calls from Virgin to 0845 and 0870 are 9.79p per min 24/7 (October 2009 price list)

Calls from Virgin via 18185 are:
0845 3p per min 24/7
0870 weekdays: 5p per min
0870 weekends: 1p per min

calls from Virgin with Talk mobile are:
10.50p per min daytime (not inc 3 network)
7.22 p per min evening (not inc 3 network)

18.37 p per min 3 network daytime
13.78p per min evening

The same calls from Virgin via 18185
10p per min weekdays (all mobile networks, so slightly cheaper in the day, more expensive at night unless your calling 3 network when 18185 is always cheaper)
4p per min weekends (all mobile networks)

The thing with the Talk Anywhere plan is that it's not like the services offered by BT etc. With Talk Anywhere (unless I misunderstand it) you are buying a set amount of mins to use on any network.

Whereas with say BT, you can have their unlimited airtime plan and make no end of free calls to geographical numbers and still get the free 0845 and 0870.

Or to put it another way, BT unlimited anytime plan costs an extra £4.95 on top of your line rental.

Virgins lowest talk anywhere package is £9 on top of line rental and for that you get just 200 minutes.

So you get 3hrs and 20 mins of landline calls with Virgin for £9 (or could use them for mobiles etc) yet with BT for £4.25, you could make 3 hrs of calls a day (just to landlines) and still get free 0870 and 0845 calls.

So I don't really see Talk Anywhere being a cost effective way of someone wanting cheap 0870 and 0845 calls when the customer also makes loads of landline calls a month? Or am I missing something?

superbiatch 29-09-2009 17:33

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34869911)
Sky don't include 0845, only 0870

They are free as part of your inclusive call package - if you're on sky talk.

Correction - its 0844 and 0870 which are free in the packages.

BenMcr 29-09-2009 17:54

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
From Sky's website:

UK calls are to 01, 02, 03 & 0870 numbers only (excludes calls to Channel Islands, indirect access numbers, dial-up Internet access and 070 numbers)

Flyboy 29-09-2009 17:57

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjo123 (Post 34880773)
You can set up an account with 18185 then dial their freephone number.

Calls from Virgin to 0845 and 0870 are 9.79p per min 24/7 (October 2009 price list)

Not quite right, 0845 is 6.45ppm.

Quote:

Calls from Virgin via 18185 are:
0845 3p per min 24/7
0870 weekdays: 5p per min
0870 weekends: 1p per min

calls from Virgin with Talk mobile are:
10.50p per min daytime (not inc 3 network)
7.22 p per min evening (not inc 3 network)

18.37 p per min 3 network daytime
13.78p per min evening

The same calls from Virgin via 18185
10p per min weekdays (all mobile networks, so slightly cheaper in the day, more expensive at night unless your calling 3 network when 18185 is always cheaper)
4p per min weekends (all mobile networks)

The thing with the Talk Anywhere plan is that it's not like the services offered by BT etc. With Talk Anywhere (unless I misunderstand it) you are buying a set amount of mins to use on any network.

Whereas with say BT, you can have their unlimited airtime plan and make no end of free calls to geographical numbers and still get the free 0845 and 0870.

Or to put it another way, BT unlimited anytime plan costs an extra £4.95 on top of your line rental.

Virgins lowest talk anywhere package is £9 on top of line rental and for that you get just 200 minutes.

So you get 3hrs and 20 mins of landline calls with Virgin for £9 (or could use them for mobiles etc) yet with BT for £4.25, you could make 3 hrs of calls a day (just to landlines) and still get free 0870 and 0845 calls.

So I don't really see Talk Anywhere being a cost effective way of someone wanting cheap 0870 and 0845 calls when the customer also makes loads of landline calls a month? Or am I missing something?
But, to make a fair comparison, one has to take the difference for the upgrade, rather than the costs of the basic services. It only cost an extra one pound and five pence from XL to Talk Anywhere 200, but it is a whopping eight pounds a month difference, to the four hundred minutes package.

---------- Post added at 16:57 ---------- Previous post was at 16:56 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34880788)
From Sky's website:

UK calls are to 01, 02, 03 & 0870 numbers only (excludes calls to Channel Islands, indirect access numbers, dial-up Internet access and 070 numbers)

Which is a bit odd really, seeing as 0870 is more expensive than 0845.

superbiatch 29-09-2009 18:00

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 34880788)
From Sky's website:

UK calls are to 01, 02, 03 & 0870 numbers only (excludes calls to Channel Islands, indirect access numbers, dial-up Internet access and 070 numbers)

All i can say is I received a letter from them just a few days back informing me 0844 numbers were free :shrug:

pjo123 30-09-2009 01:11

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34880791)
Not quite right, 0845 is 6.45ppm.

cut and pasted from their October 2009 price list (added --- to space properly)

Quote:

Calls to these numbers, (and personal numbering services beginning 070XX), are not included in our Talk plans.
Connection Fee (ppc) ----------Standard Call Rate (ppm)
----- Daytime Evening -----------Daytime Evening
0845 ---9.79 ---9.79 --------------9.79 ----9.79
0870 ---9.79 ---9.79 --------------9.79---- 9.79

highway1 30-09-2009 01:19

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
0845 and 0870 are changing soon so the free deal from bt is the 12 month scam we got u . locked in for 12 months.

Flyboy 30-09-2009 13:11

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pjo123 (Post 34881035)
cut and pasted from their October 2009 price list (added --- to space properly)

From VM's website:

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/webs...ct.do?id=10258

BenMcr 30-09-2009 13:52

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
As it is not yet the 1st October that page lists the current price

pjo123 30-09-2009 14:21

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34881242)

Hmm.

Their current tariff has 0845 calls at 6.85p per min.

The link you posted has them at 6.84p per min (not the 6.45p per min quoted in your earlier post)

The 9.79p per min price I quoted is from their new October 2009 price list which comes into effect tomorrow , not their current one.

Flyboy 30-09-2009 15:57

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Whatever the real answer is, makes little difference to me. I always use SAYNOTO0870.COM and doesn't cost me a penny extra. :D

sc00ter 30-09-2009 23:02

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
post office look ok for a phone line

We’re talking big savings
For only £11.75 a month, you get line rental, inclusive calls thrown in and lots more:


Home Phone benefits1:
inclusive line rental – no need to pay BT
inclusive evening and weekend calls - to UK landlines and 0845/0870 numbers1
inclusive weekend calls - to UK mobiles and our top 40 international destinations
inclusive calls anytime - to other Home Phone customers
10% off calls to your nominated ‘Loved Ones’ plus a free 60-minute call on their birthdays and Christmas Day


Switch to us, it's easy:
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scooter

---------- Post added at 22:01 ---------- Previous post was at 22:01 ----------

Say hello to low-cost calls
Call type1 Daytime1 Evening1 Weekend1
Local/national calls 4.50p per minute 0p per minute 0p per minute
Mobiles 12.73p per minute 7.83p per minute 0p per minute
Other Home Phone customers 0p per minute 0p per minute 0p per minute
0845/0870 2.936p/6.851p 0p per minute 0p per minute

---------- Post added at 22:02 ---------- Previous post was at 22:01 ----------

http://www.postoffice.co.uk/portal/p...diaId=19800178

m419 01-10-2009 20:10

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
BT and TalkTalk offer 0845 and 0870 calls inclusive in talk packages,

Those who have Sky Talk,Virgin National,Tiscali Smart Talk or any other CPS provider WHO DO pay there line rental to BT can take advantage of free calls to 0845 and 0870 numbers on saturdays and sundays by dialling 1280 in front of any 0845 or 0870 number. BT Together Option 1 is usually set up on peoples lines who subscribe to such CPS services. 1280 overides such providers and instead routes calls through BT, BT offer free calls to 0845 and 0870 numbers at weekends on BT Together option 1.

Virgin Media Cable customers can use Talk Anywhere plans which give you a bundle of minutes for use to call 01,02,03,0845,0870,mobiles and even international mobiles and landlines, the package costs are equivalent to call all these destinations at 4p per minute, there is no call connection charge on these types of calls. Minutes ARE NOT deducted on calls made to freephone numbers and remain free of charge.

All offers above by the mentioned providers are subject to fair usage policies.

NOTE:

Sky customers who want to keep there line rental with BT should avoid Sky Talk as it works out more expensive, BT can offer you unlimited evening and weekend calls for the same price as BT Together Option 1, however this is subject to a renewable contract. BT Together option 3 is also cheaper than Sky Talk's unlimited plan and as usual, BT offer inclusive calls to 0845 and 0870 numbers.

Virgin TV customers who use BT can save a packet by hanging up on BT and taking a Virgin phone line as the TV package becomes cheaper when you do this.

Virgin Media will eventually offer inclusive calls to 0845 and 0870 numbers to keep with the competition.

Flyboy 01-10-2009 22:35

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
Thanks for that m419, where did you get all of that information?

m419 04-10-2009 10:30

Re: will virign do what sky and bt have with 0845 and 0870
 
the 1280 feature is advertised by BT to those who use another provider for calls, all the other information on tariffs and calling plans from Virgin Media,TalkTalk and BT can be found on there websites, Thats all lol I thought I'd put all the information together and put it on here to save people the hassle.


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